эта игра не выходит у меня из головы! я просыпаюсь и первая мысль, которая появляется в моей голове, связана с этой игрой. она еще не началась, но я уже хочу, чтобы она ДЛИИИИЛАСЬ ВЕЧЧЧНООО.
из вышесказанного появляется следущий вопрос!
как долго будет это все длиться? заранее спасибо><
эта игра не выходит у меня из головы! я просыпаюсь и первая мысль, которая появляется в моей голове, связана с этой игрой. она еще не началась, но я уже хочу, чтобы она ДЛИИИИЛАСЬ ВЕЧЧЧНООО.
из вышесказанного появляется следущий вопрос!
как долго будет это все длиться? заранее спасибо><
выражаю полнейшую солидарность. мне бы хотелось играть вечно. пока не отсохнет последняя нога и не оторвётся последний тромб. (///)
эта игра не выходит у меня из головы! я просыпаюсь и первая мысль, которая появляется в моей голове, связана с этой игрой. она еще не началась, но я уже хочу, чтобы она ДЛИИИИЛАСЬ ВЕЧЧЧНООО.
из вышесказанного появляется следущий вопрос!
как долго будет это все длиться? заранее спасибо><
выражаю полнейшую солидарность. мне бы хотелось играть вечно. пока не отсохнет последняя нога и не оторвётся последний тромб. (///)
пока сердце не откажет! я думаю, что эта игра станет частью нас всех!
эта игра не выходит у меня из головы! я просыпаюсь и первая мысль, которая появляется в моей голове, связана с этой игрой. она еще не началась, но я уже хочу, чтобы она ДЛИИИИЛАСЬ ВЕЧЧЧНООО.
из вышесказанного появляется следущий вопрос!
как долго будет это все длиться? заранее спасибо><
выражаю полнейшую солидарность. мне бы хотелось играть вечно. пока не отсохнет последняя нога и не оторвётся последний тромб. (///)
пока сердце не откажет! я думаю, что эта игра станет частью нас всех!
неужели человек с такими же взглядами на жизнь... :']
эта игра не выходит у меня из головы! я просыпаюсь и первая мысль, которая появляется в моей голове, связана с этой игрой. она еще не началась, но я уже хочу, чтобы она ДЛИИИИЛАСЬ ВЕЧЧЧНООО.Вечно :)
из вышесказанного появляется следущий вопрос!
как долго будет это все длиться? заранее спасибо><
нашелся... чувак, я был бы рад пообщаться с тобой в ирл! пиши мне в личкуТак-так... А ЭТО ЧТО ТАКОЕ, А? :pff: НАРУШАЕМ?!
Так-так... А ЭТО ЧТО ТАКОЕ, А? НАРУШАЕМ?!
эта игра не выходит у меня из головы! я просыпаюсь и первая мысль, которая появляется в моей голове, связана с этой игрой. она еще не началась, но я уже хочу, чтобы она ДЛИИИИЛАСЬ ВЕЧЧЧНООО.Вечно :)
из вышесказанного появляется следущий вопрос!
как долго будет это все длиться? заранее спасибо><
Да не знаю, от недели до месяца-полутора. Как пойдёт. Ну а если всем понравится и будет возможность – сделаем сиквел.нашелся... чувак, я был бы рад пообщаться с тобой в ирл! пиши мне в личкуТак-так... А ЭТО ЧТО ТАКОЕ, А? :pff: НАРУШАЕМ?!
Кстати говоря, у пары персонажей есть вот такая вот тема:хотел бы быть братанами с тобой!
>if checks N or B, gets acquainted with them
это значит, что игрок может узнать, кто именно скрывается за определённой ролью и в дальнейшем они могут сотрудничать, если я правильно понимаю? :Д
PS: осталось 1,5 вакантных места!only 1 mb, except u use face-control block to me.
Well, and I think we should at least get to know each other.
I suggest everyone who wants to fill out a questionnaire.
1. How you can be abbreviated to call, and what name you do not like.
2. Experience playing the mafia, real or forum.
3. Preferred playing style if you think you have one.
4. What do you consider (by experience or intuitively) a sign of a peaceful player, and what is a sign of a negative player.
5. How well have you read the roles and rules?
6. Any other information that you deem necessary to add to the welcome.
I’ll answer right away (something a lot of text came out)СпойлерIn short, I am uran. But you can call me my lord ^_^.
He played at least 100 games in the forum mafia, did not count the real ones.
My communication style in the forum is very neat. I do not like positional play (although I certainly own it). I prefer neutral conversations without recriminations, even if they don’t always succeed. In a game like this, the foundation for me is long-term planning of the capabilities of the faction and the search for who is who is the role-nickname. I am always glad if there is a leader who runs the city to follow him or guide him, according to the situation. But I can become one myself, if there are no volunteers or they are a likely mafia.
But now I’m not playing at full strength (or I’m just saying this so that I’m excused), because there is no leadership and planning only for myself (exceptions are possible). Most likely, I will act either in a positional game, or as it should be a model game.
A sample of the game faithfully sends actions at night, deciphers the results of the night during the day, votes against the lynch, (still guesses hints). Peaceful and the mafia is written out cautiously, and as a rule, these traffic lights - lists of who the city is (green), mafia (red), who is ambiguous (gray or yellow) - are based on information from the night, and in second place on behavior during the day. Of course, as an example, I can’t afford to scorch the results brazenly, but he who has the mind will understand.
For me, the mafia is primarily one who contradicts itself or does not have the opportunity to be some kind of town role, and of all the possibilities to be peaceful, I will probably name only 1, the desire to seek the mafia. I know the roles well enough, and perhaps I could answer almost any question on them no worse than GM if all the nuances were described now. But when they are, it will become true.
1. Kara is fine, it's also ok to call me Caramel.Good, sweet
2. Long-long ago I played 2 times in the real world but did not win. Regarding forum mafia - I have an experience - around 25 seasons as a player and 8 as a host. But the rules were quite different from those you have here, so I'm a newbie, but it seems that general principles are +/- the same.And in which forum are you soloing?
3. The playstyle of mine is active, I try to confront players based on some facts/quotes/etc. to gather some info or expose hidden connections. I also once (or sometimes twice or more) per game day write a full analysis of all players. Then based on gathered information I can try to analyze behavior during voting and voting results. So, while I can - I try to play based not on intuition, but on calculations.Writing a full analysis, especially in the early days, is a serious simulation of violent activity. I just have experience in this matter, I also like SVA. I will say this - the more you write a sheet, the more likely you are a maf.
And in which forum are you soloing?I do not think, that you know, as it's a couple of forums with the very same player united by a certain on-line game, so mafia is just a matter of fun, rather than a primary activity.
Writing a full analysis, especially in the early days, is a serious simulation of violent activity. I just have experience in this matter, I also like SVA. I will say this - the more you write a sheet, the more likely you are a maf.Really? It's the first time I hear such an opinion. Can I state my reasons and then you'll tell me the weak points of it.
As for the supposedly peaceful “do not resist lynching”, then this is complete nonsense. If you have a red card, you need to grab your teeth with an opponent’s stick and punch yourself in the chest and shout that there are forces, that you are “peaceful and respectable.” And if you don’t give a damn, and you give up, then most of all you play against the peaceful.
Really? It's the first time I hear such an opinion. Can I state my reasons and then you'll tell me the weak points of it.First of all, you should bring your opinion to the rest of the peace in the most clear and concrete. No need to pour water. I wrote who you see as a maf and why, and then everything will go by itself. And then you will start to write from the first player and you will infuse from your finger 5,000 thousand words. I’m personally a simple person: I see a big post, I don’t read it. I, too, can compose such a play for you with all the consequences on 2-3 pages. But why? After all, I just can write "Vital Maf" and briefly justify why.
As a peaceful player, I can write full analysis even based on the entry quotes. Technically it does not matter if it is correct or not from the start. But mafia has to respond to it somehow - that's the exact point of writing an analysis - creating a situation where mafias' actions can become unbalanced. And further days will just worsen their positions when some solid facts will be gathered. Where I have played the common situation that most of the active players and ordinary citizens, while mafia is mostly silent.
We have a rule, that you cannot change your voice, once you voted. So if you are an ordinary citizen and in first days collecting votes - it's not the reason to struggle to stay alive, there is a great possibility the Sheriff or Doc will be lynched. You just have to make so good voting analysis as a will - that's it. It's not fully applicable to this setting, but to some extent - perhaps.And why expose yourself or the same Doctor, if you can just put the maf? Lol why die peaceful lynching? If you can prove your innocence and agitate to hang a mafa.
And why expose yourself or the same Doctor, if you can just put the maf? Lol why die peaceful lynching? If you can prove your innocence and agitate to hang a mafa.If someone been suspected as a mafia player and started to gather some votes and then started to oppose in a rush and blunt way - there is a big possibility that this person is a mafia. Especially in the first days. As I told, rules were different, interactions were different and even game order was different, so it's based on my experience. I will not rely on that in this game.
I do not understand
First of all, you should bring your opinion to the rest of the peace in the most clear and concrete. No need to pour water. I wrote who you see as a maf and why, and then everything will go by itself. And then you will start to write from the first player and you will infuse from your finger 5,000 thousand words. I’m personally a simple person: I see a big post, I don’t read it. I, too, can compose such a play for you with all the consequences on 2-3 pages. But why? After all, I just can write "Vital Maf" and briefly justify why.
I can show what the analysis I mean by. The more facts there are - the more precise it becomes and reflecting my point of view.First of all, I want to find peaceful ones, because the mafia game is not only a search for black players. I’ll find myself allies - I will form a peaceful fist - the collapse of the Mafia’s cabin. And I don’t even need the role of a maniac to win, and in principle I don’t have such a role in this game. And with regards to the fact that I wrote the word "peaceful" several times, it was rofl, I teased you if you did not understand.
06. Falcon hunting - has said, that he is peaceful many times. What's the point in that? It's obvious that from the start all players are "peaceful" and desperately searching for the mafia. For mafia, it's quite a straightforward way of playing, so I'd rather think of you as a maniac (one of these 2).
The same goes for each player it the game, that's it. Nice and easy. There are extra situations where it's necessary to fully show something, but in general, such a way of presenting info is enough.
First of all, I want to find peaceful ones, because the mafia game is not only a search for black players. I’ll find myself allies - I will form a peaceful fist - the collapse of the Mafia’s cabin. And I don’t even need the role of a maniac to win, and in principle I don’t have such a role in this game. And with regards to the fact that I wrote the word "peaceful" several times, it was rofl, I teased you if you did not understand.Of course, the mafia game is more than this, for sure.
Ok
Чивай so Чивай :teeth:
First of all, I want to find peaceful ones, because the mafia game is not only a search for black players. I’ll find myself allies - I will form a peaceful fist - the collapse of the Mafia’s cabin. And I don’t even need the role of a maniac to win, and in principle I don’t have such a role in this game. And with regards to the fact that I wrote the word "peaceful" several times, it was rofl, I teased you if you did not understand.Of course, the mafia game is more than this, for sure.
And, yup, you have teased me and I got it. It was a sample of analysis y'know (or not, who knows). But even if I will use this as such fact it will lead to a nice conversation between us or maybe someone will suspect me or you - it's just a mean of how to undercover some things and create situations where some contradictions could be.
If my way of playing is bad I will go down very soon. But there is the only way to check it - via practice.
I agree, the only way to appropriately evaluate the game is to wait for the ending. But with regards to your analytics, you have already incorrectly given me the role. You can say that I supposedly let you think so about me, but the facts are extremely few and the only phrase or post does not make me a maniac. Somewhere you made a mistake in the calculations
Technically it does not matter if it is correct or not from the start.
It's a matter of going into a conversation and provoking others to state their opinion rather than making a precise prediction of your role. Every game should have some confrontation from the beginning. I think that the first day (oh well, here the game starts from the first night) is informative as well, just have to make some pushes.Yes, provocation makes sense. But if you are a provocateur, then you should not be limited to one player, you should act on the rest
Listen, did you know that:Ok
Чивай so Чивай :teeth:
HOW DARE YOU CALL ME LIKE THAT?!
Yes, provocation makes sense. But if you are a provocateur, then you should not be limited to one player, you should act on the restYup, that's who I am. And I'll do that, just when a little bit more people arrive.
Listen, did you know that:
Chivay is a city in southern Peru. The administrative center of the province of Cayoma in the Arequipa region. Located at an altitude of 3635 meters above sea level. Near the city is the famous canyon of the Kolka River. 10 km east and 1,500 m above the city is the Chivaysk Obsidian field.
Yup, that's who I am. And I'll do that, just when a little bit more people arrive.I don’t mean anything, but there is one Chivay who really wants a provocation, if you know what I mean
Yup, that's who I am. And I'll do that, just when a little bit more people arrive.I don’t mean anything, but there is one Chivay who really wants a provocation, if you know what I mean
Listen, did you know that:
Chivay is a city in southern Peru. The administrative center of the province of Cayoma in the Arequipa region. Located at an altitude of 3635 meters above sea level. Near the city is the famous canyon of the Kolka River. 10 km east and 1,500 m above the city is the Chivaysk Obsidian field.
Yep! But did you know that:
Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present Zoltan Chivay! Сhivay is a dwarf, a soldier of fortune, a veteran of the Battle of Brenna, an unassailable optimist, a committed altruist, a lover of rough drinks and rougher songs, a master gwent player and, above all, a dear and loyal friend. That's it. EOD!
Yep! But did you know that:
Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present Zoltan Chivay! Сhivay is a dwarf, a soldier of fortune, a veteran of the Battle of Brenna, an unassailable optimist, a committed altruist, a lover of rough drinks and rougher songs, a master gwent player and, above all, a dear and loyal friend. That's it. EOD!
I don't know about dwarfs or whatsoever but are you a Hungarian as Zoltan is a common name there (e.g. Zoltan Ribli)?
Oh ... So you're krasnolud . Well ... Of all that I understand, you love something solid. Okay, okay, I won’t joke, I’m above this (a cut above that’s for sure)Great joke. I'll come up with something like that but later D^:<
, , do you remember that this game is "educational"? And the word "educational" there does not mean "mafia" in the first place. In addition, communication before the results of the first night is optional. Although it would be useful in some ways.
Falcon hunting, Kara_Mel, do you remember that this game is "educational"? And the word "educational" there does not mean "mafia" in the first place. In addition, communication before the results of the first night is optional. Although it would be useful in some ways.
communication before the results of the first night is optional.True that.
it is important when you know who you are playing with. you want to turn the game into a boring, learning-only game? :,( :,( :,(, , do you remember that this game is "educational"? And the word "educational" there does not mean "mafia" in the first place. In addition, communication before the results of the first night is optional. Although it would be useful in some ways.
lol I disagree with your statement
I think he more green.Just a little remark - she, not he. I'm a woman.
KaraMel answers 1st. I think he more green.I'm sorry, I made you think that. I was lazy to answer questions.
Probably the mafia would take a wait and see attitude.
Because under my own power I left two options for action - to obey or oppose.
And the mafia does not know which way the city player would choose. Therefore, the most likely behavior of the maf would be a wait-and-see attitude - to wait until someone else says something.
The goose openly fell under this behavior of the probable mafia. Well, with the exception that if he understood that the peaceful react favorably, he would try not to stand out and give the most complete answer possible. Therefore, I will not yet confidently call him suspicious. But I did not like the moment, if peaceful does not see that someone’s idea is good, he will say so directly, because he is not afraid to come into conflict with the mafia.
For more analytics, I certainly lack answers.
I remind you that there are reasonable things that can be done now.
I absolutely understand this game, and I’m looking for mafes hereI’m fully aware, that it’s a funny way to start the game. But everything written by the strong player has a reason behind it. So if assume that it’s true – mafia will try to slay such an experienced player with a full understanding of a game as he could be dangerous, isn’t it? So why does he make himself such a desired victim? I see 3 reasons for that, but I’ll state only 2 for now – he wants to be protected by some special character from this setting or he is a mafia himself, so he is not scared of that. There is another compound reason, that is also possible from an experienced player, but if it’s true – I’ll keep it with me for now, no need to ruin it.
Well, and I think we should at least get to know each other.ok, hi!!! 1/ you can call me Sue.
I suggest everyone who wants to fill out a questionnaire.
1. How you can be abbreviated to call, and what name you do not like.
2. Experience playing the mafia, real or forum.
3. Preferred playing style if you think you have one.
4. What do you consider (by experience or intuitively) a sign of a peaceful player, and what is a sign of a negative player.
5. How well have you read the roles and rules?
6. Any other information that you deem necessary to add to the welcome.
I’ll answer right away (something a lot of text came out)СпойлерIn short, I am uran. But you can call me my lord ^_^.
He played at least 100 games in the forum mafia, did not count the real ones.
My communication style in the forum is very neat. I do not like positional play (although I certainly own it). I prefer neutral conversations without recriminations, even if they don’t always succeed. In a game like this, the foundation for me is long-term planning of the capabilities of the faction and the search for who is who is the role-nickname. I am always glad if there is a leader who runs the city to follow him or guide him, according to the situation. But I can become one myself, if there are no volunteers or they are a likely mafia.
But now I’m not playing at full strength (or I’m just saying this so that I’m excused), because there is no leadership and planning only for myself (exceptions are possible). Most likely, I will act either in a positional game, or as it should be a model game.
A sample of the game faithfully sends actions at night, deciphers the results of the night during the day, votes against the lynch, (still guesses hints). Peaceful and the mafia is written out cautiously, and as a rule, these traffic lights - lists of who the city is (green), mafia (red), who is ambiguous (gray or yellow) - are based on information from the night, and in second place on behavior during the day. Of course, as an example, I can’t afford to scorch the results brazenly, but he who has the mind will understand.
For me, the mafia is primarily one who contradicts itself or does not have the opportunity to be some kind of town role, and of all the possibilities to be peaceful, I will probably name only 1, the desire to seek the mafia. I know the roles well enough, and perhaps I could answer almost any question on them no worse than GM if all the nuances were described now. But when they are, it will become true.
But everything written by the strong player has a reason behind itIn fact, I did not immediately think that it was necessary to first let someone conclude on their own, and then destroy the air castle. 4 minutes to answer, plus translation.
I hope the leader will appear, because after Goose’s answer, I get the opinion that they want to see me in spite of reluctance.I don't understand you. how can I talk about roles, if you are in the game? if you want to be a leader of kitty-citizenz, what are your functions?
Definitely no one wants to discuss something in the cast? I know the controversial points quite well, and the discussion helps to make the right choice for those citizens who have not carefully read.
4/ i prefer to not answer at this questionI do not demand to name the reason now (perhaps I will ask later). Just interested, there is something more than "just do not want" or not.
But everything written by the strong player has a reason behind itIn fact, I did not immediately think that it was necessary to first let someone conclude on their own, and then destroy the air castle. 4 minutes to answer, plus translation.
But the meaning can really be found.
And I also remind you that with Messor (player 6) I played a little more than 1 game, and I could not select anything to suggest its color. That is, all that you see now from him most likely does not mean anything (if I did not miss something).
I’m fully aware, that it’s a funny way to start the game. But everything written by the strong player has a reason behind it. So if assume that it’s true – mafia will try to slay such an experienced player with a full understanding of a game as he could be dangerous, isn’t it? So why does he make himself such a desired victim? I see 3 reasons for that, but I’ll state only 2 for now – he wants to be protected by some special character from this setting or he is a mafia himself, so he is not scared of that. There is another compound reason, that is also possible from an experienced player, but if it’s true – I’ll keep it with me for now, no need to ruin it.After killing me, the game will then be quite boring. :D
And I also remind you that with Messor (player 6) I played a little more than 1 game, and I could not select anything to suggest its color. That is, all that you see now from him most likely does not mean anything (if I did not miss something).Can't you say anything for me? Can not be
After killing me, the game will then be quite boring.That's exactly what I tell when someone wants to kill me where I usually play xD2
I don't understand you. how can I talk about roles, if you are in the game? if you want to be a leader of kitty-citizenz, what are your functions?Speak generally. Instead
oh I am goose-леха.
Oh ... We are so much alike. Do you feel the same as me?After killing me, the game will then be quite boring.That's exactly what I tell when someone wants to kill me where I usually play xD2
Oh, damn it, there is nothing impossible. My motto is “the day without analysis is not a day”. And even there is nothing too major happened I will still generalize things.
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Time for a little joke!
I’m using RGB style to say about player’s color. R – red (the town), G – gray (not defined), B – black (the mafia). As for maniacs (neutrals) if such thought will cross my mind – I’ll directly write it.
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01. pastor chivay – guy, that wants to have his name pronounced as Khivay but not with Ch sound. There is hard to say something about him except, that I’m having some trouble with reading such text. He also stated that the most suspicious players are not the mafia, but how do you define the meaning of a word suspicious? For now – gray.
05. l10ha – relying on the intuition is not a good idea when it’s bad. I terrified to imagine how the game will be going… Gray.
06. Falcon hunting – as Donald J. Trump says – we had a nice conversation and it’s a deal! Not in this case, no. If to see his staring post:I absolutely understand this game, and I’m looking for mafes hereI’m fully aware, that it’s a funny way to start the game. But everything written by the strong player has a reason behind it. So if assume that it’s true – mafia will try to slay such an experienced player with a full understanding of a game as he could be dangerous, isn’t it? So why does he make himself such a desired victim? I see 3 reasons for that, but I’ll state only 2 for now – he wants to be protected by some special character from this setting or he is a mafia himself, so he is not scared of that. There is another compound reason, that is also possible from an experienced player, but if it’s true – I’ll keep it with me for now, no need to ruin it.
14. Anony-mouse. Cautious with good thoughts, nice to read. Somehow a little similar thought on hanging with Falcon. Otherwise for the firstdaynight seems reasonable. Let’s assume that he is red for a moment.
15. Uranium235 – started the conversation here offering a nice questionnaire, again emphasizing that he is not playing full strength. Good beginning, but I did not like the statement about intentional gender change, not even that, but pointing to it in a fully opened way. I wanted to give a red card, but I cannot for now. Gray.
Speak generally. InsteadAnd this is our carry :cheer:
"I have such a role, or I think you are such a role"
speak
"how much better does Alice know the role of her goal, if she checks in comparison with how she will change the goal"
The leader first of all determines who the lynch is (or nobody - the feature of a particular format allows this). A good leader - selects two players on a personal basis, allowing the rest to choose strictly between them. And he extinguishes conflicts between citizen. And he does not live long despite the fact that priority is given to protection against murders.
u haven't idea how intuitive I am. last night I'll be reading taro cards to find out who the mafia is hahaha. thx you.Man, tarot cards are the last century. Real tashers use a coin to solve complex issues
u haven't idea how intuitive I am. last night I'll be reading taro cards to find out who the mafia is hahaha. thx you.
Man, tarot cards are the last century. Real tashers use a coin to solve complex issues
Messor, and you probably know what I want to see.
And he did not promise to play weaker.
And after that you are surprised that I do not define you?
Oh ... We are so much alike. Do you feel the same as me?It seems that yes, but let's save our irritation about "how life is unfair" till the end of the game :anger:
u haven't idea how intuitive I am. last night I'll be reading taro cards to find out who the mafia is hahaha. thx you.
Man, tarot cards are the last century. Real tashers use a coin to solve complex issues
pfff lol taro cards and coin pfffffff c'mon guys mafia is the one who don't sleep at night
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Вы не можете сказать что-нибудь для меня? Не может быть
Oh ... We are so much alike. Do you feel the same as me?It seems that yes, but let's save our irritation about "how life is unfair" till the end of the game :anger:
someone other than yousorry my french is very very bad
pastor chivay – guy, that wants to have his name pronounced as Khivay but not with Ch sound.Yes I Am! В)
There is hard to say something about him except, that I’m having some trouble with reading such text.:sad:
For now – gray.IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS GOOSE! THANK YOU! :sobeauty:
I don't understand you. how can I talk about roles, if you are in the game? if you want to be a leader of kitty-citizenz, what are your functions?Speak generally. Instead
oh I am goose-леха.
"I have such a role, or I think you are such a role"
speak
"how much better does Alice know the role of her goal, if she checks in comparison with how she will change the goal"
The leader first of all determines who the lynch is (or nobody - the feature of a particular format allows this). A good leader - selects two players on a personal basis, allowing the rest to choose strictly between them. And he extinguishes conflicts between citizen. And he does not live long despite the fact that priority is given to protection against murders.
pastor chivay – guy, that wants to have his name pronounced as Khivay but not with Ch sound.Yes I Am! В)There is hard to say something about him except, that I’m having some trouble with reading such text.:sad:For now – gray.IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS GOOSE! THANK YOU! :sobeauty:
Messor, give advice on the actions of any urban role that you want.
so clear?
I do NOT want to be a leader, this is too strong an advantage for me, even considering the quick death. Therefore, I hope that someone else wants.
Definitely not, I would like you to help some role to make a slightly better move, because I promised not to do it.Messor, give advice on the actions of any urban role that you want.
so clear?
Do you want me to hint at my role? So I can do it when the newspaper appears
what if we just had some advice?
it is important when you know who you are playing with. you want to turn the game into a boring, learning-only game?
Definitely not, I would like you to help some role to make a slightly better move, because I promised not to do it.I can say one thing: if a role has an “acquaintance” action, then let it use this ability to the maximum. Finding an ally is much more important than the mafa in the early stages of the game. How one head burns well, and two is better
Definitely not, I would like you to help some role to make a slightly better move, because I promised not to do it.Messor, give advice on the actions of any urban role that you want.
so clear?
Do you want me to hint at my role? So I can do it when the newspaper appears
what if we just had some advice?
I do not understand the question
it is important when you know who you are playing with. you want to turn the game into a boring, learning-only game?
I should have written that the game is educational in various ways. And for some participants, entering the game is complicated by both the language barrier and a little acquaintance with the game at the same time. Probably it will be more correct.
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*And outside the window, a crazy old woman shouts about Eltsin and tataro-mongols, and she does not care about the coronavirus. God bless double-glazed windows.
I do NOT want to be a leader, this is too strong an advantage for me, even considering the quick death. Therefore, I hope that someone else wants.
ths, perfect comment.
what?....ths, perfect comment.
Anyone else want advice?
Perhaps the question of Goose has become a little more clear to me now, but let him clarify.
why can't all kitizens play a. leadership role?any role.
что?....Better never mind.
thx u :flush:why can't all kitizens play a. leadership role?any role.
There are more preferred ones, but I definitely have no right to call them now.
If the question implies why a leader is needed at all, when we have democracy.
That is the answer to it - experience. Conflicts between peaceful ones are an unbreakable phenomenon and the basis of the victory of the mafia. Organization is what the city lacks.
It’s a little difficult for the mafia to vote against anyone who isn’t their own (with some exceptions). For the city, the situation of Swan, Cancer and Pike is, firstly, often characteristic, and secondly, often fatal.что?....Better never mind.
I think the post above answered your question anyway.
10. Execution demands an absolute majority vote (50% votes plus one). The moment one getswrite to me, easy or hard satisfy this, if 2 town players die tomorrow (mafia and Todd victims).
enough votes, the voting stops immediately and no votes can be changed. If the majority abstains,
or if no clear decision is made until the deadline, day ends without execution.
Also, I underline this ruleme too agree with him. isn't there a 50/50 chance of death from Todd?Цитировать10. Execution demands an absolute majority vote (50% votes plus one). The moment one getswrite to me, easy or hard satisfy this, if 2 town players die tomorrow (mafia and Todd victims).
enough votes, the voting stops immediately and no votes can be changed. If the majority abstains,
or if no clear decision is made until the deadline, day ends without execution.
Why did Messor write the right advice?
Because it's easy to vote together when you know each other at a conference.
But in fact, it is not necessary to understand that someone is a different city and act together.
Therefore, I ask who wants to advise what to do at night to some roles.
Я тоже согласен с ним. разве нет вероятности смерти 50/50 от Тодда?Tods's 1st action is 100% kill except protections and hills.
I think that those who closely followed the topic have long sent their NA. And vice versa. Those who have not yet sent NA do not follow the topic.
hahhah do you suspect me?Я тоже согласен с ним. разве нет вероятности смерти 50/50 от Тодда?Tods's 1st action is 100% kill except protections and hills.
But in my eyes the one who does not know this will not become a little less possible maniac.
heals*I think that those who closely followed the topic have long sent their NA. And vice versa. Those who have not yet sent NA do not follow the topic.
May be. Does something follow from this observation? Actions can be changed, for example.
no more than any other.
not knowledge is not a reason for me.
In addition to any nightly knowledge of the target (for example, if I know such a person was visiting Vasya, he was unlikely to kill Petya at the same time).
what is reason for u? not considering what you wrote above
The main thing is that the mafiosi do not draw conclusions from this conversation, otherwise we will lose someone who was so careless that he undertook to express his opinions before the end of the first night)
Although, how it seems to me, it is much more unpleasant to die without having to say a word.
The main thing is that the mafiosi do not draw conclusions from this conversation, otherwise we will lose someone who was so careless that he undertook to express his opinions before the end of the first night)
Although, how it seems to me, it is much more unpleasant to die without having to say a word.
pastor chivay – guy, that wants to have his name pronounced as Khivay but not with Ch sound.Yes I Am! В)There is hard to say something about him except, that I’m having some trouble with reading such text.:sad:For now – gray.IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS GOOSE! THANK YOU! :sobeauty:
THX U TOO only you are so kind to the goose :postrock:
I get the impression that you are saying something and at the same time trying not to say anything. So is it better to express an opinion or not?
, Are you still sure that Мouse is red now? I definitely had suspicions
I think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)The main thing is that the mafiosi do not draw conclusions from this conversation, otherwise we will lose someone who was so careless that he undertook to express his opinions before the end of the first night)
Although, how it seems to me, it is much more unpleasant to die without having to say a word.
Looking at the players I can state for sure - if no experienced players from this forum are in the mafia team - targets will be random. Even if there are - mostly new faces are in the game - pure random (maybe not that pure, but still close to it). So if any way there is a chance to be killed by mafia or maniac - why to be silent?
Do you want me to hint at my role? So I can do it when the newspaper appears
I think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)If all the townspeople choose this tactic, how to win? You often won, and you know the way.
ahhahhab they'll hang you in the morning because you have been quiet all along. I'll have to read the taro cards and contact space tonight to stop suspecting uI get the impression that you are saying something and at the same time trying not to say anything. So is it better to express an opinion or not?
Even if my words do not carry value to the townspeople - communicating in English itself is beneficial :P
I think sharing thoughts is very useful. Extremely helpful. But before the first night, this can be the cause of a sudden death) And stupid me keep talking...
ahhahhab they'll hang you in the morning because you have been quiet all along. I'll have to read the taro cards and contact space tonight to stop suspecting uI get the impression that you are saying something and at the same time trying not to say anything. So is it better to express an opinion or not?
Even if my words do not carry value to the townspeople - communicating in English itself is beneficial :P
I think sharing thoughts is very useful. Extremely helpful. But before the first night, this can be the cause of a sudden death) And stupid me keep talking...
pastor chivay – guy, that wants to have his name pronounced as Khivay but not with Ch sound.Yes I Am! В)There is hard to say something about him except, that I’m having some trouble with reading such text.:sad:For now – gray.IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS GOOSE! THANK YOU! :sobeauty:
THX U TOO only you are so kind to the goose :postrock:i don't understand all of them and all i can is hug you in the corner of this topic :_С:misery:
:crying:
ahhahhab they'll hang you in the morning because you have been quiet all along. I'll have to read the taro cards and contact space tonight to stop suspecting uI get the impression that you are saying something and at the same time trying not to say anything. So is it better to express an opinion or not?
Even if my words do not carry value to the townspeople - communicating in English itself is beneficial :P
I think sharing thoughts is very useful. Extremely helpful. But before the first night, this can be the cause of a sudden death) And stupid me keep talking...
you're goddamn right but if you'll talk a lot they can suspect you and hang too :^D
and i don't even know what's better
perfect defense is attack, u know?
you're goddamn right but if you'll talk a lot they can suspect you and hang too :^D
and i don't even know what's better
pastor chivay, Rome wasn't build in a day)
perfect defense is attack, u know?
you're goddamn right but if you'll talk a lot they can suspect you and hang too :^D
and i don't even know what's better
suspect 1st.
yu about me?
Pastor, i say 'u may suspect 1st'.
Now I realized that this is not obvious.
don't worry, I get itPlease state why the lord is suspicious to you.
If there is not a single experienced player among the mafia, then the course of the game will be totally unpredictable. If there were at least two experienced players in the mafia, then the likelihood of a disaster for the city would have grown very much. It would be logical to assume that there is one experienced player in the mafia.
don't worry, I get itPlease state why the lord is suspicious to you.
If there is not a single experienced player among the mafia, then the course of the game will be totally unpredictable. If there were at least two experienced players in the mafia, then the likelihood of a disaster for the city would have grown very much. It would be logical to assume that there is one experienced player in the mafia.
I thought that roles are randomly distributed, but do you say that random is biased? Strange knowledge.
don't worry, I get itPlease state why the lord is suspicious to you.
Even I would not rule out the possibility that GM would not want four newbies to the mafia and throw randomly again. But it’s wrong to play based on it. There will be no evidence.If there is not a single experienced player among the mafia, then the course of the game will be totally unpredictable. If there were at least two experienced players in the mafia, then the likelihood of a disaster for the city would have grown very much. It would be logical to assume that there is one experienced player in the mafia.
I thought that roles are randomly distributed, but do you say that random is biased? Strange knowledge.
I got it. The question is why.
you did not understand me. I call you the lord of suspect :tip:
are u afraid of beginning suspected?you have something to hide? ahahahhWe just learn to formulate suspicions, enlisting the support of other civilians is no less important than finding the mafia. Support without the formulation of suspicions specifically against the mafia (and not peaceful - from the real mafia) is unlikely.
I thought that roles are randomly distributed, but do you say that random is biased? Strange knowledge.
I got it. The question is why.
This is an assumption, possibly incorrectPlease make an assumption which is possibly correct. I suspect you of a duality of opinion, but I could be wrong. You will help me a lot if you do something that will allow me to change my mind about your address, but it definitely will not help if you don’t do anything.
This is not knowledge. This is an assumption, possibly incorrect. I assume that the distribution of players is only partially random. It seems logical to me that with a big difference in the experience of the players, it would be worth distributing them as in sports competitions, like through the "baskets". Thus, the mafia would not have gathered most of the experienced players, but would not have been left without them. Maybe I just want too much logic in the chaos of life)
I got it. The question is why.
there is no answer. it's just an alternative variation to call you.
...if I replace this with simple "lord" would be this much better? ( "оо)
I will not deny that one of the goals of the question about the experience of playing in the questionnaire was to collect information for such an assumption if someone wanted to make it.
Then you can form a "basket" yourself. Who do you define as an experienced player? Those who played here or those who played IRL or somewhere else? It looks like an accusation against a number of players.
I think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)It should be some kind of important role, but the hint is way too big.
you're goddamn right but if you'll talk a lot they can suspect you and hang too :^D
and i don't even know what's better
Some other things to say before going to sleep. Order does not matter.
1. Uranium235 playing the first violin now, so seems the leader is decided, huh? I can't say whether it's your peace-style or mafia-style, but as I see it - what you're doing is useful. There are some people that played with you - if something is wrong - they should notice.
2. I don't like empty interactions between Goose and Pastor.
3. Sue left a provocative statement ofI think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)It should be some kind of important role, but the hint is way too big.
4. Pastor's phrase is at the same level as Sue's.you're goddamn right but if you'll talk a lot they can suspect you and hang too :^D
and i don't even know what's better
But there is a difference - Sue kept silent, while Pastor wrote many posts, but mostly useless.
5. Anony-mouse says general phrases about possibilities, but can he provide something more concrete? If the random is biased then who does he think is the mafia and so on.
I don't like empty interactions between Goose and Pastor.how cynical. as for me it's a silly remark. it doesn't even concern you a lot, so please, stop judge us and let us keep our relationship as pleasant as they were :3
Pastor's phrase is at the same level as Sue's.
By the time, darkness started slowly waning; tired and sleepy, the Londoners called it a night and occupied their beds.
The first signs of daylight touched the air, although unnoticed, as the mother of all smokes strangled the Great Wen's skies.
Night 1 has officially come to an end. The Newsletter will be announced in several hours and Day 1 will start.
Sweet dreams, mates! (You still can write here tho)
Our good fellow Londoner, Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet.
Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered.Looks like a hint on a couple of night action, cannot say for sure whose. jekyll001 / xXxhydexXx maybe as he is a hacker of some sort.
Results have surprised me - no victims, that's rare. I have never played with such a way of presenting information about a day, but I'll try to interpret them somehow.Our good fellow Londoner, Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet.
Is this a hint to a murderer or a victim? As I see there is only one hint, though. Maniac, or mafia, or both visited the same person?Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered.Looks like a hint on a couple of night action, cannot say for sure whose. jekyll001 / xXxhydexXx maybe as he is a hacker of some sort.
+ There is an interview to be thought about.
Results have surprised me - no victims, that's rare. I have never played with such a way of presenting information about a day, but I'll try to interpret them somehow.Our good fellow Londoner, Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet.
Is this a hint to a murderer or a victim? As I see there is only one hint, though. Maniac, or mafia, or both visited the same person?Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered.Looks like a hint on a couple of night action, cannot say for sure whose. jekyll001 / xXxhydexXx maybe as he is a hacker of some sort.
+ There is an interview to be thought about.
I think you are hiding something. you said, that you were surprised no one did. were you sure that you shot was going to kill person? ;)
Results have surprised me - no victims, that's rare. I have never played with such a way of presenting information about a day, but I'll try to interpret them somehow.Our good fellow Londoner, Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet.
Is this a hint to a murderer or a victim? As I see there is only one hint, though. Maniac, or mafia, or both visited the same person?Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered.Looks like a hint on a couple of night action, cannot say for sure whose. jekyll001 / xXxhydexXx maybe as he is a hacker of some sort.
+ There is an interview to be thought about.
I think you are hiding something. you said, that you were surprised no one did. were you sure that you shot was going to kill person? ;)
Based on my experience - it's quite rare result with 2 possible shots and 15 players in the game to have no one killed. It's like to meet a velociraptor on the street dancing rumba.
Failed kill due to treatment (?).
Also likely a failed kill due to the block. Or maniac Todd is off.
Numerous hacks. Hyde + Christopher Robin + Orlando + Darjeeling filed to one of the three?
Failed kill due to treatment (?).
Also likely a failed kill due to the block. Or maniac Todd is off.
Numerous hacks. Hyde + Christopher Robin + Orlando + Darjeeling filed to one of the three?
You're right. "Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet." sends us to Sherlock who probably was cure Julik. Regarding to blocks - you should include Chifir which blocks player for night&day too
Besides Sherlock, there is Ebenezer Scrooge who also can protect someone from being killed (2. Hard cash: protects the target from 1 kill. Can bribe in hard cash twice.). Chances of that are not big, but an opportunity exists.
We have two Internet blocker in cast.
Besides Sherlock, there is Ebenezer Scrooge who also can protect someone from being killed (2. Hard cash: protects the target from 1 kill. Can bribe in hard cash twice.). Chances of that are not big, but an opportunity exists.We have two Internet blocker in cast.
if Scrooge saved Julik, then the salvation was from Todd and not from Mary. As we know the mafia can consult their decisions with each other and this would be a silly decision to protect the one your ally decided to attack. it would be logical to propose that Mary's action was blocked by one of the hackers, as Anony-mouse said
+or by Orlando
Todd doesnt cooperate with mafia
1) First of all, he is a random target - not one of those who had posts in the topic.
2) I cannot see why a silent person was protected in the first place when there are more active people who needed it for the first night.
3) As for now, I do not see any points, that emphasize that it was Mary or Todd's attempt. And they are in different teams.
4) Maybe it's showing even "survives X kills attempts" passive ability, then it could become more logical, than protecting some random guy by Sherlock.
1. How you can be abbreviated to call, and what name you do not like.1. Shi / Щи or Ши usually
2. Experience playing the mafia, real or forum.
3. Preferred playing style if you think you have one.
4. What do you consider (by experience or intuitively) a sign of a peaceful player, and what is a sign of a negative player.
5. How well have you read the roles and rules?
6. Any other information that you deem necessary to add to the welcome.
1) First of all, he is a random target - not one of those who had posts in the topic.
2) I cannot see why a silent person was protected in the first place when there are more active people who needed it for the first night.
3) As for now, I do not see any points, that emphasize that it was Mary or Todd's attempt. And they are in different teams.
4) Maybe it's showing even "survives X kills attempts" passive ability, then it could become more logical, than protecting some random guy by Sherlock.
, you see, a significant part of the players who recently appeared on the forum have some familiarity in real life. Although they were encouraged to use ... ahem ... anonymity, not everyone followed the advice.
So, the “random target” may not be completely random.
And I mean the possible nonrandomness of both murder and treatment.
Among other things, you also did not take into account that the victim himself may turn out to be Sherlock. Self-medication is not so rare.
Overhaul: offers the target a cure from all kill attempts during this night. If successful, learns the target (or targets) of the patient's action.
It's like to meet a velociraptor on the street dancing rumba.Sorry, but i can't stop laughing xD2 xD2 xD2
Y'know, I don't like this at all. At first, you say that target may not be random, but when I asked for concrete reasons - you just backed off. If you told that - you should have suspicions, right? So name them. At this exact point I'm not interested in GM's opinion, but yours.
It's not nice way of doing things.
The highlighted part is important and self-protection ruining it, so it is doubtful that such an important ability will be wasted by a player who didn't write anything even to heal himself. No profit at all.
Y'know, I don't like this at all. At first, you say that target may not be random, but when I asked for concrete reasons - you just backed off. If you told that - you should have suspicions, right? So name them. At this exact point I'm not interested in GM's opinion, but yours.
It's not nice way of doing things.
Well, I'm just a mice guy, so I do things in a mice way. With all due respect, I said only what I could and had the right to say. I have grown up enough to resist pressure attempts.The highlighted part is important and self-protection ruining it, so it is doubtful that such an important ability will be wasted by a player who didn't write anything even to heal himself. No profit at all.
But also said - self comes first. The player may consider that survival and the chance to form an city's group are more important than a small chance of receiving information.
About interview.
Shiori is an experienced player. So one could try to apply a deeper analysis. To consider not only the roles who he could be. And also consider how good his answer is for each possible role.
Although his status as a "retiree" may indicate that he was not looking for the best options. And an attempt at a deeper analysis using English somewhat exceeds my current capabilities. First of all, it would take a lot of time.
As for the apparent lack of killings.
Well, I wouldn’t exactly dump what Todd slept tonight or missed for another reason. Which of course does not cancel out any other reason for his failure. A pass is not a likely move usually, but seeing activity yesterday, I definitely can’t reset it, although I would think about a pass last but not least.
Where is the allusion to the second kill (I don’t have to wait for the pass from the mafia, at least someone was there) I still think.
For instance,
Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark; this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularity.
1. Meme: makes a funny meme of the target, blocking them for the night due to a sick burn they have to deal with.
It may be it, although not necessarily, but a similarity is felt.
But why several, doubling the action? Or the Hide block is just woven here too.
everything is so strange. do we still to hang someone?We analyze the events of the night in the first place.
Unsuccessful attempts are important information, they must be displayed!what are the odds of a player being rescued by accident or saving himself?
I increasingly believe that I'm right with bullying because GM had to divert attention from the real reason for the failure of the murder. And tell me what it is, if not a block, if you can. Because in that case there will be a hint. Slime, inconspicuous.
All sorts of decay that our cybersecurity are not something, now in a complex newspaper it would be considered that the assassination would be described as an attack.
In fact, where I see the block (s), Alice may well be.
Active partaker of London’s counterculture movement.everything is so strange. do we still to hang someone?We analyze the events of the night in the first place.
Every peaceful one has a fragment of truth, because almost every analysis will be at least a little true. Will remain folded.
Yes, it’s difficult, but you still try to say what happened at night, or at least criticize or confirm my opinion.
I intentionally do not touch on the interview, but I’m trying to evaluate the rest without any discounts, and it’s so difficult.
everything is so strange. do we still to hang someone?
I cannot see why a silent person was protected in the first place when there are more active people who needed it for the first night.Here I agree with Kara. It is unlikely that someone wants to defend quiet player.
In fact, where I see the block (s), Alice may well be.
everything is so strange. do we still to hang someone?There are not a lot of information we can talk about. All we have now is some hints and Shi's interview, so we can keep discuss around that. And other's participarts still not visited this thread, it's seems like we have to wait :wind:
Game master, can we hung Mr. Nobody?Yes, that is an option: If you don’t want to sentence anyone, you can vote for no one (use the noose tag with phrases like “Nobody”, “Hang No One”, “No Vote”, “Abstain”, etc.) (Rule 9). Also, you can just not vote at all (Rule 10: If the majority abstains, or if no clear decision is made until the deadline, day ends without execution), but I would strongly recommend against this option, as the non-voters will be recognized as off-liners.
Maybe Alice blocked the killers, but what's the thingI mean - perhaps this description is not Robin's block at all. Or just on the heap, with Alice together, since there Several.
[v]GM[/v]
GM |
Just in case (I removed the picture from the Rules)—here's the noose tag:
(Ссылка на вложение)
Or you can write this:Код: [Выделить][v]GM[/v]
And you'll get this as the result:
GM
but can I vote for the man who's in the game?This is exactly what you're supposed to do :aranai:
but can I vote for the man who's in the game?This is exactly what you're supposed to do :aranai:
but can I vote for the man who's in the game?This is exactly what you're supposed to do :aranai:
no no no
can we not vote today? I mean, not hang anyone. but can I vote to put my position straight now?
but can I vote for the man who's in the game?This is exactly what you're supposed to do :aranai:
no no no
can we not vote today? I mean, not hang anyone. but can I vote to put my position straight now?
Yes You Can
No one |
You'd better vote, but you have an option to vote for “no one”. Like this, look:
No one
When I count your votes, it looks like this:
Mr X (3): A, B, C
Mr Y (2): D, E
No one (5): F, G, H, I, J
, where the letters A–J are the voters. When “No one” option gets 50%+1 votes (for this day, it's 8 votes), the vote is stopped immediately and no one gets hanged.
Start of New Era? No Murders TonightThis is the first kill attempt. It is hard to understand the killer role, I do not see any clear sign of him. The attempt have failed because of Sherlock's curing, if to rely on the mention of the health packs. But. This is the great luck to predict a prey from the fourteen players. So one of the many active and passive defenses can be the alternative cause for the fail. The author's name can contain hint for some info, but also can be just artistic description. Fergus Hume /not Fume/ is the novelist that inspire Arthur Conan Doyle to write A Study in Scarlet. So I think that Sherlock's curing is the more likely version.
Stranger things are happening around the darker cul-de-sacs of London's streets. As something not seen in years, this morning's Scotland Yard report brings not a single case of homicide. Thank goodness we had at least some bloodshed, or I would have started thinking the end times are near! Our good fellow Londoner, Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet.
— Fergus Fume
Cyberinsecurity Plagues LondonThis is the second kill attempt. There are no names in the article so I think that attempt have failed because of block. Also allusions to current real life in Moscow also suggest about block. The author is Watt. The most famous Watt is the inventor of the steam engine. So maybe the prey was robot /with steam engine lol/ LIZ and the cause of the fail is her immune to Sweeney.
The Old Smoke, our beloved Corporation, has never been particularly renowned for providing top-notch commodities to its employees and citizens. However, the latest events mark brand new, groundbreaking levels of negligence and decay that our cybersecurity is capable to reach. Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered. Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark; this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularity. One may ask us who is responsible for this debacle. Alas, we all know the answer, aren't we?
— George E. G. Watt
– Do you know anyone who has already given way to his or her homicidal tendencies?It is the bon ton to offer to others to analyze this article.
– No, I don't
– Do you have any gizmos to stand up for yourself?
– No, I haven't...
– Are you keen on stalking people?
– ...No, I'm not.
Well, I'm just a mice guy, so I do things in a mice way. With all due respect, I said only what I could and had the right to say. I have grown up enough to resist pressure attempts.I'm not satisfied, it left more even more questions.
But also said - self comes first. The player may consider that survival and the chance to form an city's group are more important than a small chance of receiving information.
Old Guard: if visits Ms Marple or Biggles, gets acquainted with them.
Old foe: if visits Moreau the Artie, takes down his Authority ability.
This is the first kill attempt. It is hard to understand the killer role, I do not see any clear sign of him. The attempt have failed because of Sherlock's curing, if to rely on the mention of the health packs. But. This is the great luck to predict a prey from the fourteen players. So one of the many active and passive defenses can be the alternative cause for the fail. The author's name can contain hint for some info, but also can be just artistic description. Fergus Hume /not Fume/ is the novelist that inspire Arthur Conan Doyle to write A Study in Scarlet. So I think that Sherlock's curing is the more likely version.
This is the first kill attempt. It is hard to understand the killer role, I do not see any clear sign of him. The attempt have failed because of Sherlock's curing, if to rely on the mention of the health packs. But. This is the great luck to predict a prey from the fourteen players. So one of the many active and passive defenses can be the alternative cause for the fail. The author's name can contain hint for some info, but also can be just artistic description. Fergus Hume /not Fume/ is the novelist that inspire Arthur Conan Doyle to write A Study in Scarlet. So I think that Sherlock's curing is the more likely version.
Can you explain something please, as it's really not clear to me: if that daily report will say who was planned to be shot - does it mean that his role is closing to red? As if it is true - it's the most undeniable way to prove that you're playing for the town. Is it should be THAT simple? I sense a deception.
If we assume that the attempt was on the robot.
That not only Liz, but Poppins may be a victim.
If we assume that the attempt was on the robot.
That not only Liz, but Poppins may be a victim.
And once again we come back to Sherlock again - "...world best sleuth in his imagination, this poor medbot with screwed circuits"
I don't really know what to think about victim :yawn:СпойлерСпойлерСпойлерabbreviation of George E. G. Watt is GEGW. let's search. first result was... here's the answer.
case is closed. :grim:
i knew that! TYSM!СпойлерСпойлерСпойлерabbreviation of George E. G. Watt is GEGW. let's search. first result was... here's the answer.
case is closed. :grim:
you're right us usual, bro :stone:
Orlando decided that the most important thing is his own safety. He can afford to be treated through the night, and he cannot be kicked out during the day - why not start from the very first night.Do you think that the supposed Orlando having night protection also defended himself with another skill?
Can you explain something please, as it's really not clear to me: if that daily report will say who was planned to be shot - does it mean that his role is closing to red?Nope. Why? Rather not red. If the kill was from gang than Jullik is not from gang without possibility of redirection that is unlikely. If the kill was from Sweeney than Jullik is not the Sweeney.
As if it is true - it's the most undeniable way to prove that you're playing for the town.Am I? Or the prey? And why? Do not see a logical relation.
Can you explain something please, as it's really not clear to me: if that daily report will say who was planned to be shot - does it mean that his role is closing to red?Nope. Why? Rather not red. If the kill was from gang than Jullik is not from gang without possibility of redirection that is unlikely. If the kill was from Sweeney than Jullik is not the Sweeney.As if it is true - it's the most undeniable way to prove that you're playing for the town.Am I? Or the prey? And why? Do not see a logical relation.
I use red as the town and black as the mafia.Got it, I thought that town marked by green ~~ Ok, yes, the probability of being good is slightly bigger, but not big generally.
Nope. Why? Rather not red. If the kill was from gang than Jullik is not from gang without possibility of redirection that is unlikely. If the kill was from Sweeney than Jullik is not the Sweeney.
I guess i know how to explain the hint. If we'll search "Hume" and "Watt" together, we'll get this (https://www.jstor.org/stable/17876?seq=1). It is said that Rufus Suter was the author of this... thing. Let's search for him. If we'll look to the pictures, we can see something interesting...Tadam!Спойлер(https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2010/155/52663887_127575096551.jpg)
Is it way too easy to be true?But the prey can be Sweeney. Do you have not fear of him? Or Orlando.
I guess i know how to explain the hint. If we'll search "Hume" and "Watt" together, we'll get this (https://www.jstor.org/stable/17876?seq=1). It is said that Rufus Suter was the author of this... thing. Let's search for him. If we'll look to the pictures, we can see something interesting...Tadam!Спойлер(https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2010/155/52663887_127575096551.jpg)
The Old Smoke, our beloved Corporation, has never been particularly renowned for providing top-notch commodities to its employees and citizens. However, the latest events mark brand new, groundbreaking levels of negligence and decay that our cybersecurity is capable to reach. Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered. Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark; this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularity. One may ask us who is responsible for this debacle. Alas, we all know the answer, aren't we?
Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discoveredSomeone has discovered something, perhaps a coalition formed or xXxhydexXx found Marple;
this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularityFlashmob can be a reference to Orlando, as he is taking the ability from someone.
Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark;Very stretched maybe, but can be a hint on Griffin the Invisible and any of his actions - as he has
Weapon: despair & theanine.Despair is close to depression and successful night action leads to it's low mark... If combined with
this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularitytogether maybe it meant a Darjeeling as a double action. But then the 2nd option is incorrect.
Here I see no other option - vote for no hanging, moving to the next day and hoping for more activity or information available.
In the end, all this is a kind of experiment.
If it was just an experiment - the GameMaster would not spend much time on the roles etc. It would be just standard mafia with doc and sheriff.
No one |
Guys, what does happening?
Sue Sharlin |
Good idea. What do others think?I always considered this rule (50+) terrible.
Sue Sharlin
I do not believe that you have nothing to say.
I do not believe that I have such difficult questions that they have no answer, or so useless that I am not worthy to receive it.
The mouse is trying to do something. I'm not sure what he did, but I see at least attempts.
Imagine a player who is silent for a minute, how long will he stay at the table? No need to be equal to those who did not come at all or do not know what to say on the occasion of the first time.
Voice against is considered good motivation, check.Good idea. What do others think?I always considered this rule (50+) terrible.
4/ i prefer to not answer at this questionI do not demand to name the reason now (perhaps I will ask later). Just interested, there is something more than "just do not want" or not.
I think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)If all the townspeople choose this tactic, how to win? You often won, and you know the way.
And half of the players would say:
Sue was kicked in the mafia conf.
But the method works.
And half of the players would say:
Sue was kicked in the mafia conf.
Doesn’t it seem?
I advise for the future - when such requests appear, keep inactive as much as possible in order to disable this argument against yourself.
I’ll find the question now, so be it.4/ i prefer to not answer at this questionI do not demand to name the reason now (perhaps I will ask later). Just interested, there is something more than "just do not want" or not.I think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)If all the townspeople choose this tactic, how to win? You often won, and you know the way.
But the method works.
And half of the players would say:
Sue was kicked in the mafia conf.
Doesn’t it seem?
I advise for the future - when such requests appear, keep inactive as much as possible in order to disable this argument against yourself.
I’ll find the question now, so be it.[I ldo not demand to name the reason now (perhaps I will ask later). Just interested, there is something more than "just do not want" or not.
+quote author=Sue Sharlin link=topic=896.msg1298558#msg1298558 date=1586627837]4/ i prefer to not answer at this question
1I think the names flicker anyway, soo my tactics of the game 'Keep silent' isn't stupid)If all the townspeople choose this tactic, how to win? You often won, and you know the way.
let's hang everything who's not active!it's been a hard night. let's leave it at thatAren't you interested in Sue's answers?
I never received an answer to both questions.
In any case, I refer to the other half, for which such arguments have the value that sand is in the desert.
In fact, you can go once a day. But the day began yesterday. And the meaning of the call is still not to say hello, but to tell something about the events of the night and / or the players.
For me, it’s far more important that you replay indignantly, the voice today doesn’t mean very much, since gaining 50% + is almost impossible.
And I can’t be Todd, because it’s more important for him not to attract attention to live longer without causing a bullet. But the fact why you do not consider me simply a mafia can be revealed in more detail. Since I know that fact is true, I can more objectively assess the nature of the arguments.let's hang everything who's not active!it's been a hard night. let's leave it at thatAren't you interested in Sue's answers?
Nobody is still hanging, anyone can give 1 vote and achieve nothing.
yeah was wondering what Sue would say about that. yes, she doesn't show up very often, and her identity raises a lot of questions for me. but I have a lot of questions for everyone elseDo you have a lot of questions for the rest?
But the method works.
And half of the players would say:
Sue was kicked in the mafia conf.
okey.yeah was wondering what Sue would say about that. yes, she doesn't show up very often, and her identity raises a lot of questions for me. but I have a lot of questions for everyone elseDo you have a lot of questions for the rest?
So do not keep them to yourself. You do not think that the rest will answer until you ask?
From the whole variety of questions, I suggest choosing 3 and asking them now to three different players. I think that if you have a lot of them, then 3 you can definitely in the near future.
please/// you need to understand that I didn't want any misunderstandings. I am ready to answer for all your questions that you have accumulated to my humble personality.
we are all on the same plate after all
Also i can say that i have two little sisters -> computer is free only in the evening... I thought that enter at the forum once a day is normal... but is't as i see//////////if this the real reason why she was not appear for a long time, well, now we can see the true answers :yawn:
But the method works.
And half of the players would say:
Sue was kicked in the mafia conf.
Ha-ha, bravo! It definitely worked very nice. At least she came out. As I asked GM - votes can be changed. May be it's possible to lure others out with such way?
please ask them again.
okey.
For Caramel. on of the first day, you distributed people twice over all the colors of the rainbow. I miss this post from u! but what interesting. why did u stop doing that? are u afraid of something?
okey.3 different players.
For Caramel. on of the first day, you distributed people twice over all the colors of the rainbow. I miss this post from u! but what interesting. why did u stop doing that? are u afraid of something?
i'd like to note that Sue is not the only one who appeared once - maybe twice and said nothing importantTry it and you. In the end, when you vote someone, it gives information about your suspicions.
so maybe it'll work
Try it and you. In the end, when you vote someone, it gives information about your suspicions.
not sure that i have a questions to other players. I would like to see the presence of others - like InVictA and Putin mod.2 hereIf you have no questions, you can do something so that others may have questions for you.
And I still waiting to Sue's answers
4. What do you consider (by experience or intuitively) a sign of a peaceful player, and what is a sign of a negative player.
With such activity, I see only 1 way - to change the voting system from the current 50%+1 to the ordinary majority. So even if 7 players will vote with 4-3 - player with 4 will be jailed.Not bad.
okey.3 different players.
For Caramel. on of the first day, you distributed people twice over all the colors of the rainbow. I miss this post from u! but what interesting. why did u stop doing that? are u afraid of something?
This is one. Two morei'd like to note that Sue is not the only one who appeared once - maybe twice and said nothing importantTry it and you. In the end, when you vote someone, it gives information about your suspicions.
so maybe it'll work
okey.3 different players.
For Caramel. on of the first day, you distributed people twice over all the colors of the rainbow. I miss this post from u! but what interesting. why did u stop doing that? are u afraid of something?
This is one. Two morei'd like to note that Sue is not the only one who appeared once - maybe twice and said nothing importantTry it and you. In the end, when you vote someone, it gives information about your suspicions.
so maybe it'll work
If you say about this/// I was too lazy to answer this question. Now i can say that my technics won't work there. I often play with people who contradict themselves, laugh at night or behave unnaturally. and... no one canceled the intuitionContradictions work great.
oh I answered one question, because I want about my business. you are wondering why? I am still writing th questionsIf you say about this/// I was too lazy to answer this question. Now i can say that my technics won't work there. I often play with people who contradict themselves, laugh at night or behave unnaturally. and... no one canceled the intuitionContradictions work great.
For example, Gus said that he has many questions for everyone. But when I asked to ask three players (all three, not all), he was able to come up with a question for only one.
This is not a contradiction in your opinion?
Intuition works definitely worse, but some players call themselves “intuitions” openly. That is, they do not try to act with facts or logic, but simply write what they think.
Is your intuition silent now? If not, it will not be a bad decision to simply write what she says, in the end, if she works, then other players will not hurt to know what she said, you see, there are facts.
If you say about this/// I was too lazy to answer this question. Now i can say that my technics won't work there. I often play with people who contradict themselves, laugh at night or behave unnaturally. and... no one canceled the intuitionContradictions work great.
For example, Gus said that he has many questions for everyone. But when I asked to ask three players (all three, not all), he was able to come up with a question for only one.
This is not a contradiction in your opinion?
Intuition works definitely worse, but some players call themselves “intuitions” openly. That is, they do not try to act with facts or logic, but simply write what they think.
Is your intuition silent now? If not, it will not be a bad decision to simply write what she says, in the end, if she works, then other players will not hurt to know what she said, you see, there are facts.
oh I answered one question, because I want about my business. you are wondering why? I am still writing th questions
inglishOMG Sorry **English -_-
I'm scared so much. My inglish isn't well so i answer with low speed. ANDSo, you are not sure of your intuition so well as to take it as the basis of the game. Neither the fear of retaliatory accusation nor illogicality stopped all the “intuitions” whom I know.
if I accuse someone, I may be accused in response and I'm not sure that I can clearly respond to the attack
I'm scared so much. My inglish isn't well so i answer with low speed. ANDSo, you are not sure of your intuition so well as to take it as the basis of the game. Neither the fear of retaliatory accusation nor illogicality stopped all the “intuitions” whom I know.
if I accuse someone, I may be accused in response and I'm not sure that I can clearly respond to the attack
At least when they play out of town.
Another 1 old question is how to win the city if everyone is silent like you (you said then that you have a good strategy)?
Well, 2 related new ones. You did not say that I can be a mafia - why do you think this is so?
And you said that I can be Todd - do you agree with my objection.
And I also know English very poorly - an online translator helps out.
u spooked a goose :misery:oh I answered one question, because I want about my business. you are wondering why? I am still writing th questions
I thought that if you told the truth about a large number of questions, then you can voice 3 of them in one post after no more than 15 minutes after you read the request.
That is, if the questions were already in the head, it would not take a long time to write them down. And another thing, if you first said, and then realized the danger of this phrase, but decided to come up with them, after reading the topic again.
And by the way, for Orlando, Sue’s reaction to the voice is too violent, so at least I don’t agree.
I have Julik often a victim of intimidation, and since the mafia may not even know that it is displayed in the newspaper like this, it is often not the mafia either.
Of course, I admit that I was mistaken and can change my mind, perhaps much earlier than you think.
Caramel, can you tell how you see Bennett's questions to Shiori?I already answered somewhere above. It's a new thing for me - such interviews. But I'll try to post a new analysis of it now.
– Do you know anyone who has already given way to his or her homicidal tendencies?
– Do you have any gizmos to stand up for yourself?
– Are you keen on stalking people?
And by the way, for Orlando, Sue’s reaction to the voice is too violent, so at least I don’t agree.That's exactly why it's my opinion. If I wanted to write something in the style of conformism - you would find my post fully the same as your opinion. My thoughts are based, that she very persistently trying to drown herself and keeping in mind her experience, that she mentioned - it's too newbie way of playing. So I'm trying to find a more logical explanation. If you're right and I'm wrong - then I still have a long way to go in the Mafia Game. That's exactly why I came here - to hone my skills.
And by the way, for Orlando, Sue’s reaction to the voice is too violent, so at least I don’t agree.
I have Julik often a victim of intimidation, and since the mafia may not even know that it is displayed in the newspaper like this, it is often not the mafia either.
Of course, I admit that I was mistaken and can change my mind, perhaps much earlier than you think.
u say the right things. but sometimes I think it is easier for me, to give you my brain, than to worry about answers
4. I didn't get that Bennet's Turing test feature.And I still add a simple conclusion from myself.
It's tricky, yes. It has several important limitations.
a. It must be general questions (so that one can answer "yes" or "no").
b. They must not include any roles. ("Do you know Mary Poppins?")
c. They must not repeat. (By asking the same question three times, you could get a 100% proof answer). It also means that it must not be the same question, but rephrased in different words.
d. The interviews must not repeat from night to night; at least one question must be changed.
What questions are allowed? Well, something like this: "Are you armed?", "Are you sociable / Do have friends?", "Did you visit X last night?", etc. Be creative, but compose them carefully.
Also, e. Bennet has a cooldown and can't test herself.
07. shiori - cannot say for sure, but his game is lazy-mentor type. Did one analysis, answered a couple of questions and nothing more. I saw such players sometimes, so let him be more #A87D7D.Wow, dark pink! Nice tint.
I can declare that see Caramel & Uran as citizens just now. If I would detect something suspicious about them, I will confront, but they do a good work for now.I think now we know where the treatment, protection and the guests check should be.
Also I like activity of Anon and Chivay.
And I still add a simple conclusion from myself.
If you cannot ask such and such a role, then you cannot ask in such a way that exactly one role could answer yes or no. So, the version with must is definitely incorrect.
i don't understand anything but it's very interestingTry to tell what you saw in the big GM post earlier this day.
Goose's phrases are still a pile of junk, so he can soon open his own junkyard.I’ll be sure to invite you to my junkyard opening. I’ll get back in the next few days.
don't listen to her, i like to hear you///Goose's phrases are still a pile of junk, so he can soon open his own junkyard.I’ll be sure to invite you to my junkyard opening. I’ll get back in the next few days.
Music interlude. Sort of cringeOff-topic, but hopes GM will forgive me for that little detour.
Day 1 Exit Poll
None of the above (1): Putin mod.2 (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298734#msg1298734)
No vote (14): , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
You need 8 votes to reach a decision.
Deadline TUE 4 PM. 16 hours left.
PS: I'll be cutting excessive quotations in your posts now and then, don't be surprised with my “Last Edit” mark under your posts.
Technical Retreat:
It is not considered true in the mafia to correct GM in the topic, for this there is PM.
Now is not the time to tell in detail why, just believe me.
thanks
Or maybe we’ll kill Messor today? He has no beginner protection, but mimics it as if he had it.
If anyone is against, go out.
l10ha |
falcon hunting |
Mr. Nobody |
Falcon hunting |
I think Hunting’s changed a lot since the game started. I’ve been analyzing his page and I’ve come to the conclusion that he usually writes huge messages and quite often. What is the reason for this low activity? Maybe he chose this tactic because he has a role to play. so I agree that huntings can be hanged. maybe he’ll say something in his defense and I'll change my mind
I think Hunting’s changed a lot since the game started. I’ve been analyzing his page and I’ve come to the conclusion that he usually writes huge messages and quite often. What is the reason for this low activity? Maybe he chose this tactic because he has a role to play. so I agree that huntings can be hanged. maybe he’ll say something in his defense and I'll change my mind
if he doesn’t write anything before 3, then I will vote for him. caramel votes for me and I understand her feelings about my personality. but I don’t want to make excuses to you and I’m not going to. time will tell who the goose is
, do you prefer Caramelldansenor Cara Mia(Baccara)Спойлерhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flAsTHJ6mlUthen? Well, probably - nothing of this :shrug:Спойлерhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5boHzgUIFI
My vote goes to.
Mr. Nobody
These two posts fully support my position about you. First of all, you have never expressed your own opinion, always supported the others, you're hesitating with your vote now, even though it will not change anything. Or are you scared, that I will instantly change my vote to Falcon?
By the way - the vote is not nice and you know it yourself.
Falcon hunting |
Day 1 Vote Results
(3): Uranium235 (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298823#msg1298823), pastor chivay (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298825#msg1298825), goose (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298835#msg1298835)
(1): Kara_Mel (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298822#msg1298822)
None of the above (3): Putin mod.2 (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298734#msg1298734), Anony-mouse (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298824#msg1298824), Drusha (https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1298836#msg1298836)
No vote (8): , , , , , , ,
No decision has been reached.
Night 2 starts. Please, send me your orders. Deadline WED 5 PM. 24 hours left.
hmm this is very interesting. Messor is gone. Kara and he talked actively at the beginning of the first night. one of them wrote that they have a lot in common. during the voting, she said that she was voting for me, but if there is another candidate for hanging from people who are gray, then she will vote for them. why didn’t you change to a messor, although he is in it? maybe you are collaborating and you don’t want to vote for him, because then maybe the right number of votes would be gathered to hang him. so I come to the conclusion that you chose me just for the excuse
hmm this is very interesting. Messor is gone. Kara and he talked actively at the beginning of the first night. one of them wrote that they have a lot in common. during the voting, she said that she was voting for me, but if there is another candidate for hanging from people who are gray, then she will vote for them. why didn’t you change to a messor, although he is in it? maybe you are collaborating and you don’t want to vote for him, because then maybe the right number of votes would be gathered to hang him. so I come to the conclusion that you chose me just for the excuse
Nice try, but 3 votes are not 7 to judge me based on this assumption, but I clearly stated my point of view and for now I see no changes in it.
the question is different. would you vote for a messor in any other script? time will tell who is who
Uran |
Sorry, I was knocked out of the game, I can not get together
I vote for the man, I was a peaceful role and I apologize for such a bad game. Alas alas alas
Uran
Sorry, I was knocked out of the game, I can not get together
I vote for the man, I was a peaceful role and I apologize for such a bad game. Alas alas alas
Uran
Sorry, I was knocked out of the game, I can not get together
I vote for the man, I was a peaceful role and I apologize for such a bad game. Alas alas alas
Uran
can you explain why you made such a decision?
Mouse, why don’t you support?
such a bad gameHe himself admitted.
Secondly, if the execution suddenly turned out to be potentially possible on the first day, then I would strongly suspect that the mafiosi are controlling the voting.What is this control expressed in?
Could you rephrase the last statement. I do not understand this. It should be too late for me.My experience says that the mafia will vote in nobody rather than miss the vote.
My experience says that the mafia will vote in nobody rather than miss the vote.
So, speak out why you do not agree with this assumption.
If you think the tactics are good, then you need to play from them yourself. In addition to personal experience, there is still the ability to adopt other people's behavior.
Do they lose their experience because of this?Put forward your version of events, why it happened.
And remind me why they started voting for me?
I clearly saidNo, it’s not clear.
There were no killings for only two reasons. Either the maf and the maniac shot at each other, or fell into personal defense. So why am I merging, Uranus? Explain why? Isn't it clear that I'm urban?
Messor, half of the pool in a coma.
Do you want to be peaceful? Play the classics, alternative methods in this situation will not help, no matter how good they may be.
Too complicated newspaper, and too little information from players on it. Get frostmorn, other methods will not work here.
(this is a joke, do not look for a lot of meaning here).
No, I don’t know why. This you said, you explain.
By the way, Shiori had a journalist, you can comment on questions and answers.
Well, in any case, if suddenly I assume I accept your logic, then I will exclude myself, tell me why or so it is obvious?
"He criticized, but was not able to offer a different path. And more than once."
My experience says that the mafia will vote in nobody rather than miss the vote.
It's possible I'm still in a rebellious phase, you know. I'm starting to get tired of the dialogue. I must remind you that I am not the most inexperienced player in the game and should not focus all the mentoring power on me alone.
I still goose and caramel reconcile.
It will be much easier if you can not write your plan.
It will become much easier to say - this mafia, do not swear among yourself, do not be like him.
I haven’t done this yet because I’m not sure that they are 2 peaceful. But I guess what will have to be done, since otherwise the defeat will be inevitable, and at least there will be some ghostly chances.
Goose and Caramel, if they kill me, at least try not to swear. It is like a will.
Oh my, such a heated discussion.My experience says that the mafia will vote in nobody rather than miss the vote.
In my point of view - voting in nobody is hiding of position (so-called lying in wait). I strongly distrust those who don't state their own opinion and supply it by the vote. The opinion could be wrong, of course - but what is really matters - is its presence.It's possible I'm still in a rebellious phase, you know. I'm starting to get tired of the dialogue. I must remind you that I am not the most inexperienced player in the game and should not focus all the mentoring power on me alone.
If you're not "the most inexperienced player", then you should have some goals. So what do you pursue by intentionally failing to provide info with your vote?I still goose and caramel reconcile.
It will be much easier if you can not write your plan.
It will become much easier to say - this mafia, do not swear among yourself, do not be like him.
I haven’t done this yet because I’m not sure that they are 2 peaceful. But I guess what will have to be done, since otherwise the defeat will be inevitable, and at least there will be some ghostly chances.
I did not fully understand this part of your sentence. Are you trying to tell me, that a person with no own reasoning and tons of messages with little meaning in it is to be considered red and played along with? I don't get it. Nope. Unless you have some inner info on Goose.
Falcon is like a vampire - appears and active only during the night. I thought, that among 3 experienced players could be mafia, but in the end I came out to see Falcon more sly due to his change in playstyle. Now he is active. It's bugging me.Goose and Caramel, if they kill me, at least try not to swear. It is like a will.
So you DO have some info about Goose, huh? I'll take that into account then.
Uranium says we shouldn’t fight, and you’re turning everything in my direction. You’re really hiding something! If I die tonight, I know who will be responsible for the festivities where the goose will be the main courseDo not misunderstand me - I have heard what Uranium has said. But that doesn't mean, that I have to listen to him, as I have my own opinion. His words are only words, so I don't plan to change my opinion based on not facts, but an opinion of the most active player.
If you're not "the most inexperienced player", then you should have some goals.
Yeah, as far as I remember, the main goal of the game is to have fun. Will I be allowed?
You're not even trying to say, that you're playing for the town or somehow to provide an explanation for your playing style.
we will not pull victory if there are a lot of non-silent mafia.
Well, why no one writes new thoughts, do you have them?
Now is the best time for this. At least wills.
Well, why no one writes new thoughts, do you have them?
Now is the best time for this. At least wills.
Suppose the Pastor is killed in the results.
What do you say?
Well, why no one writes new thoughts, do you have them?
Now is the best time for this. At least wills.
Suppose the Pastor is killed in the results.
What do you say?NO U!!!!
D: !!!
Did you use the taro cards? But who knows, maybe you're right (I hope no)
There, the condition was my retirement. While I'm in the game, this is still valid.
What to write? Nothing changed since my analysis, except you told me not to go in conflict with Goose anymore. It's strange, but I'm trying as hard as I can.
Suppose the Pastor is killed in the results.
What do you say?NO U!!!!
D: !!!
Did you use the taro cards? But who knows, maybe you're right (I hope no)Спойлер(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61poXwxvnfL.jpg)
There, the condition was my retirement. While I'm in the game, this is still valid.
Write your victory plan considering the situation.
Well, or a vision of how city roles might be better. Today it is too late, but the thought may still come in handy tomorrow, but there is still no confidence in survival.
I prefer this version moreNice! Tarot offers many funny characters as the major arcana cards.
Tarot offers many funny characters as the major arcana cards.
There, the condition was my retirement. While I'm in the game, this is still valid.
Write your victory plan considering the situation.
Well, or a vision of how city roles might be better. Today it is too late, but the thought may still come in handy tomorrow, but there is still no confidence in survival.
Ok, I'll write, but it's very basic - like a textbook rule.
First of all, among active players, there is definitely at least one mafia player.
It's necessary to make GameMaster change voting rules as I offered previously - to the ordinary majority.
Then - there is somewhere one peaceful coalition, that should vote (hoping it's active).
Based on the previous behavior (and night results) it's possible to find mafia player among active and jailed him.
Next, it's necessary to persuade GameMaster to remove most of those who write nothing in the topic.
Also, there is a hope that the town will have another coalition, which will ease the game.
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Roles - my assumptions did not change, but I can think now, that you+Goose are on the same side. Most likely. Perhaps. Or you have some plan behind you and Goose is the part of it.I prefer this version moreNice! Tarot offers many funny characters as the major arcana cards.
Oh shit! I saw through with uranium!
but I know that I am part of your plan! we can disperse! the riddle is solved. I and the caramel mafia and our entire dispute is a distraction! The stars came together, the tarot cards told us everything.
There, the condition was my retirement. While I'm in the game, this is still valid.
Write your victory plan considering the situation.
Well, or a vision of how city roles might be better. Today it is too late, but the thought may still come in handy tomorrow, but there is still no confidence in survival.
Ok, I'll write, but it's very basic - like a textbook rule.
First of all, among active players, there is definitely at least one mafia player.
It's necessary to make GameMaster change voting rules as I offered previously - to the ordinary majority.
Then - there is somewhere one peaceful coalition, that should vote (hoping it's active).
Based on the previous behavior (and night results) it's possible to find mafia player among active and jailed him.
Next, it's necessary to persuade GameMaster to remove most of those who write nothing in the topic.
Also, there is a hope that the town will have another coalition, which will ease the game.
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Roles - my assumptions did not change, but I can think now, that you+Goose are on the same side. Most likely. Perhaps. Or you have some plan behind you and Goose is the part of it.I prefer this version moreNice! Tarot offers many funny characters as the major arcana cards.
Roles - my assumptions did not change, but I can think now, that you+Goose are on the same side. Most likely. Perhaps. Or you have some plan behind you and Goose is the part of it.And you know him. The goose is active enough not to miss the vote, and is able to support the coalition. If a maf, it will not be easy for him to find arguments why he is not ready to do this.
by the way, about the coalitionСпойлер(https://cs7.pikabu.ru/post_img/2018/12/08/3/15442391611636387.jpg)
I don’t really like that everyone is starting to openly go into conflict with each other.
I will say right away. Today I intend to hang everyone who will not be active and I don’t really care whether he is peaceful or not. :booty:
Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features. Nothing was touched in the room;
Layers of blood all over the room that were present, together with the victim's scalp (that was absent), were signs strong enough for even Scotland Yard to grasp exactly what happened this time.
the tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape, found under the table.
I can assume that Sue was a liz.
Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features.
The second case seems to be more obvious—but more graphic. Do not let your younglings read it! The body of Bratuxa777 was found in the morning, again, at his home, beside the desktop. Layers of blood all over the room that were present, together with the victim's scalp (that was absent), were signs strong enough for even Scotland Yard to grasp exactly what happened this time. What still bewilders the tecs, though, is the tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape, found under the table. While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.
One may ask himself—is it possible that the London affairs get any worse than they already are? The truth is, this inquiry has the precise, trusty answer: It is always a strong possibility. Each and every piece of news merely compliments the bigger picture of the Regal Organization slowly undermining its own basis. It seems however that the process has gained momentum.
The infrastructure keeps on idling. To the traditional composure of massive hacks, the new ingredient refined the recipe of failure: large-scale data leaks. The counterbalance provided by the nomenklatura is miles of red tape, apathy, and utter inability to protect its working hands. It appears to me that all we are capable of now is to imagine the ways of our final downfall.
very interesting newspaper. After reading it, I realized that my brother killed Todd, and Mary killed Sue. the piece of cloth that was left on the table indicates me hunting and caramel. I can assume that Sue was a liz. however, I have nothing against the fact that the mafia is slowly getting rid of empty ones. :beg:
How does the dark piece of cloth refer to either you or me? I don't get it, so please provide an explanation.everything is very simple. evidence can point to anything. including on the avatar. I took it and just knitted it all. you have black clothes and hunting. Todd is not connected with the mafia. maybe I took it from the sky, but this is the first association
Execution demands an simple majority vote. When the day ends, the player with the most votes is lynched. If more than one player get the same number of votes, the player who gained the number first if lynched. If the majority abstains, the day ends without execution.
But what does the dark cloth means? To me, black is always a mafia.
As mafia are "Hand of the Queen"Todd is rather maniac, he is not mafia. To me it's a hint to someone, and as Goose said, it may be
the piece of cloth that was left on the table indicates me hunting and caramel.Hints are based on someone's profile, description, name and even avatar. Make a conclusion
everything is very simple. evidence can point to anything. including on the avatar. I took it and just knitted it all. you have black clothes and hunting. Todd is not connected with the mafia. maybe I took it from the sky, but this is the first association
Hints are based on someone's profile, description, name and even avatar. Make a conclusion
Anyway, if so, this hint too easy for only second night, so who knows, I'm not really sure
closeclothes - stupid autocorrector.
The close of mine is actually green, but it could not be seen too well in the small picture. It's possible, that it's dark of some sort, but I always thought about it as a green.
"Dark Confidant"
it also has a place to be but as "hint to profile picture" it seems to easy, or it should be like that?Forget it.
cuz then I have no idea
At first, I generally thought that judging by the choice of the victim, I am specifically wrong in the colors (and / or not only me).
But judging by the fact that the killing is faceless, that is, it could not break through the treatment, still not. Though a little bit I did, and I think I should play with all three who are now commenting on the newspaper, since the mafia would first of all take it apart and then invent it in the subject.
that's what is strange. You used to laugh my questions off, but now you make excuses. I don’t see any green here. but you know! maybe I really look from afar at this article and don't really think about the details. I will write something else when I find it. the anonymous mouse is also very suspicious. He came and hung it. without any explanation. but in any case, I will not vote for you, Kara! I'm so used to you. Hunting? I am waiting for his messages and then I will draw conclusions.
Forget it.
It must be mega-complex.
The first evidence on a maniac cannot be easy. If you want, we can open past games and find an example there.
And in general, a maniac is a mafia problem, let them look for him.
Thanks for the valuable comments, Sue.
All I can see is that Shiori did not become an obvious mafia and was not called peaceful, which means that his answers were ambiguous in any case, assuming, of course, that the role of Liz was found correctly.
So very complex? Hm, I have no idea where to look at then.I can play the lead who makes the first evidence on you maniac.
While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.I thought something, Moro doesn’t roll either. Scrooge comes up, but it's too good to be true.
at his home, beside the desktopThis is another indirect confirmation.
One may ask himself—is it possible that the London affairs get any worse than they already are? The truth is, this inquiry has the precise, trusty answer: It is always a strong possibility. Each and every piece of news merely compliments the bigger picture of the Regal Organization slowly undermining its own basis.
But Bratuha, we rotated in businesswise. It can be Moro or Scrooge, although I certainly would not rely on this
This is another indirect confirmation.
But I still want to hear any other options. Killed mafia is too easy.
I can play the lead who makes the first evidence on you maniac.
Open the wiki caramel. Something the page is scarce, let's move on to the values. Oh caramel movie. Filming ended a few days before the outbreak of the war between Israel and Lebanon. During this war, an operation of "bunch of anger" was carried out. As we know, this is Steinbeck’s novel, based on which John Ford’s film was shot. And his other Oscar-winning film is the "informant."
This word will be a hint.
And this I have not painted the most difficult option.
t's so hard to read. it feels like I watched the program about the secret conspiracies of the Maason. what about senpai? he came, wrote something about death and left. isn't it strange behavior?ЦитироватьWhile not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.I thought something, Moro doesn’t roll either. Scrooge comes up, but it's too good to be true.
In the city, either no one fits, or you can pull half of the city.
In order:
Marple - definitely not, well, which of the businesswise detectives.
Sherlock is a doctor of medicine. Yes, somehow, too, no, medicine is certainly a business, and in this regard it is possible to pull, but it is.
The Beagle is definitely not there, in the newspaper there is nothing like a reflected counterattack.
Robin is a cybernet, all things. He can be known outside, but this can only be guessed at.
Jeeves fits relatively. Served by the rich is not quite something, although you can pull it.
Oliver would not have died from a maniac’s bullet so quickly (except for a very rare case, when two flew into him yesterday, and today is finishing it). In a vacum, it does not stretch well on the proletariat.
Alice is a hostess in a bar, such a businessman.
Griffin is invisible, he hardly has such a reputation as described.
Liz journalist, you can pull, but we understand that, most likely, this is Sue.
Orlando who copied Scrooge. Well, perhaps it was only unlikely that he was copying the ignore of the block, and hardly so generous as to heal not himself. And in this case, he could die only if he was prevented by the block-transfer. What cannot be ruled out.
You see errors in the reasoning - let us know while Scrooge / Orlando is the most likely victim, if I at least understand something in the descriptions, but we will still play from 4 mafia - safety precautions.at his home, beside the desktopThis is another indirect confirmation.
But I still want to hear any other options. Killed mafia is too easy.
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen! But a good day will be when I read our love .. Oh my god .. Sue .. I have known her since childhood .. my goodness! My best durg Bratuha777! Lord, how did this happen? .. I swear to God that I will find everyone who did this to them I will turn them into a miserable semblance of dog food! >:( >:( >:(
t's so hard to read. it feels like I watched the program about the secret conspiracies of the Maason. what about senpai? he came, wrote something about death and left. isn't it strange behavior?
oh and about black material
it feels like he's getting nervous.
this player’s activity was zero in this thread and it doesn’t cause me any confidence
it is. you know why? he didn't noticeNo, my dear partner, you are all right. I am sure that he is dead.
anyways, there's nothing to discuss — the only one who directly connected with business was Scrooge. such fast death, but I can't see any alternative options. you may correct me ofc
more like an attempt to defuse the discussion with jokes and somehow fit in, not sure that is too serious for him. but he's gone again
it is. you know why? he didn't noticewell, I should have any reason to hang. I took any and pulled her. don't take it seriously :postrock:
anyways, there's nothing to discuss — the only one who directly connected with business was Scrooge. such fast death, but I can't see any alternative options. you may correct me ofc
more like an attempt to defuse the discussion with jokes and somehow fit in, not sure that is too serious for him. but he's gone again
well, I should have any reason to hang. I took any and pulled her. don't take it seriously :postrock:
time-terrible thing! they will defeat me! I want to find a reason to hang sampai!
well, I should have any reason to hang. I took any and pulled her. don't take it seriously :postrock:
don't hang yourself! You still have a big deal in this world, Goose
So... This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us have been killed. About Kara mel facts I do not know what could i say about. On one hand on Uranium we have some evidences, on the other hand - we have not absolute sure about him. Perhaps somebody has another facts or assumtions or hypothesis?
what evidences do you have? I did not see something that could point on him. or do you mean that Kara's post?
what evidences do you have? I did not see something that could point on him. or do you mean that Kara's post?
My post is not for evidence, but for understanding the logic behind hints. But facts I showed there are real.
01. pastor chivay - he gave a very quick analysis of the interview and became looking like a confident guy (not a lost lamb). I have a little bit of idea who he might be, so I'll paint him red.I thought that Pastor is LIZ, due to his quick and very precise analysis of the interview - I decided that he was the man, who wrote it. But if we got it right and Sue was LIZ - it's not working.
I thought that Pastor is LIZ, due to his quick and very precise analysis of the interview - I decided that he was the man, who wrote it. But if we got it right and Sue was LIZ - it's not working.
The first report is of particular peculiarity. Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features. Nothing was touched in the room; Schotland Yard has not a single assumption of what might have caused such a malignant and terrible contortion. Sue was deeply loved by many of us, and this loss will be deeply mourned.
I want to speak out too. I think that members of the game not activ already now. Let's eliminate !today! a player who didn't write something. If he isn't activ now i think he won't activ in future. Falcon hunting wrote something in begining of the party. I10ha even more so.
I suggest Dmixn, Putin mod.2, Bratuxa777, Julik1221, SamPie or InVictA
The second case seems to be more obvious—but more graphic. Do not let your younglings read it! The body of Bratuxa777 was found in the morning, again, at his home, beside the desktop. Layers of blood all over the room that were present, together with the victim's scalp (that was absent), were signs strong enough for even Scotland Yard to grasp exactly what happened this time. What still bewilders the tecs, though, is the tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape, found under the table. While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.
The first report is of particular peculiarity. Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features. Nothing was touched in the room; Schotland Yard has not a single assumption of what might have caused such a malignant and terrible contortion. Sue was deeply loved by many of us, and this loss will be deeply mourned.The first kill is made by gang. The killer could be either Scrooge with weapon capitalism or jekyll001 with none weapon. But I do not see any hint, so the killer is Mary with cleanup. It is hard to determine the role of victim. Armchair and rigid face — strongly associated with Miss Marple for me. Or Biggles but he has veteran ability.
The second case seems to be more obvious—but more graphic. Do not let your younglings read it! The body of Bratuxa777 was found in the morning, again, at his home, beside the desktop. Layers of blood all over the room that were present, together with the victim's scalp (that was absent), were signs strong enough for even Scotland Yard to grasp exactly what happened this time. What still bewilders the tecs, though, is the tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape, found under the table. While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.The maniac's kill. The hint is "tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape". Victim was found near desktop, so it could be Miss Marple again, but she has laptop, not desktop, or Chris. Also Scrooge and Jekyll can match.
Still alive (13):And let the music begins!
The close of mine is actually green, but it could not be seen too well in the small picture. It's possible, that it's dark of some sort, but I always thought about it as a green.Wanted to say "Like for avatar!" :tea: But I prefer this art more:
time-terrible thing! they will defeat me! I want to find a reason to hang sampai!
tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape
I think, that you have a sharp mind, but not red now. Very close to it, but not fully.
I thought that Pastor is LIZ, due to his quick and very precise analysis of the interview - I decided that he was the man, who wrote it. But if we got it right and Sue was LIZ - it's not working.
So what do you think now?
The close of mine is actually green, but it could not be seen too well in the small picture. It's possible, that it's dark of some sort, but I always thought about it as a green.Wanted to say "Like for avatar!" :tea: But I prefer this art more:
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time-terrible thing! they will defeat me! I want to find a reason to hang sampai!
In general, his post looks as if he was kicked in maf-chat - write at least something.
Armchair and rigid face — strongly associated with Miss Marple for me. Or Biggles but he has veteran ability.But there is also a more specific phrase "has never been seen upon human features" that tells us the Sue was not human and there is no interview. It's really hard to say something else besides LIZ was Sue.
But there is also a more specific phrase "has never been seen upon human features" that tells us the Sue was not human and there is no interview. It's really hard to say something else besides LIZ was Sue.I analyze paper at first usually to have not impact from thoughts of others. Now the version with victim-LIZ looks better than mine.
Tartan is the cloth with rectangular pattern and symbol of Scotland. The people of Scotland are poetically the Highlanders.
This time I'll divide all the player to active and inactive and give my overview as follow:I want to note that uranium did not say that it is protecting me. he said stop looking for each other's suspicions. don’t you see that I’ve been trying to say something important for two days now? the more often you try to offend me, the dumber my messages become.
Active:
01. pastor chivay - as I told - thought that he is LIZ, but now it's clear, that he is not. But still, he is a way to active for the mafia and mostly logical and consistently sharp-minded. I don't think, that new player will play in such a style for the mafia. Almost red.
05. l10ha - most of his babbling is useless but tried to proclaim me as a mafia based on the outfit of my avatar and that is really nice move, giving him much more credit. While he's having fun with Pastor - Pastor is still far more trustworthy. Really strange, that Uranium235 said not to argue with the Goose. Ok, this day I will not show any disrespect to his way of playing. Color: under Uranium235 defense.
06. Falcon hunting - seems, that a midnight wanderer will be right alias to him, as he never wrote anything useful during the day and by that avoided all possible debates. Ash-colored
07. shiori - one thing I like about him, as he gave his analysis before reading the most popular vision in the topic. If it hasn't been done deliberately - that is the town player trait. I still see him as close to red.
14. Anony-mouse - changed his playstyle from "let me be a selfish bystander" to "let's make the analysis great again". It's a sudden change, almost as if he wants to take the lead over the Uranium235. With such a sudden change is more black.
15. Uranium235 - showed a complicated way of hint-solving, so this should be the town player, as from the mafia point of view - there is nothing better for the town to follow the wrong way by themselves. Red.
This section can be called as "fifty shades of gray", and it would be 100% correct. How is it even possible to analyze inactive players? For me, it's much easier to find reasoning against an active player, rather than against inactive, but still, I'll give it a try.
Almost purely inactive:
02. Dmixn - one hi and nothing more. Inactive today and not interest in a game. I believe, that such players should be kicked out by the host, not by the town.
12. InVictA - not active since the 15th of April, so he has no interest in his NA.
10. Julik1221 - never wrote anything, but mentioned in the analysis once. Have no idea what to think about him.
11. SamPie - one post and it's too much for entry. Tiny darker than gray.
Voted:
03. Putin mod.2 - voted for No one, so he has some interest and doesn't want to be thought about him as inactive.
08. Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.
In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.
I want to note that uranium did not say that it is protecting me. he said stop looking for each other's suspicions. don’t you see that I’ve been trying to say something important for two days now? the more often you try to offend me, the dumber my messages become.It's passive patronage, considering I was suspecting you - and he told to stop.
suspect me as much as you like. I said everything in the last message. and about empty messages too.I want to note that uranium did not say that it is protecting me. he said stop looking for each other's suspicions. don’t you see that I’ve been trying to say something important for two days now? the more often you try to offend me, the dumber my messages become.It's passive patronage, considering I was suspecting you - and he told to stop.
08. Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.
In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.
Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions. So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...the first thing I would hang you with. uranium is an understandable person. get rid of inactive = the best thing to do xD
Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions. So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...
So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions. So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...
You're mistaken, pal.
1. It's suspicious to say, that you're peaceful if you're silent.
2. Of "us" is a very big stretch from your side, too suspicious. Your way of writing is quite not peaceful for my taste. You're not saying "There is some evidence", but "we have some". Strongly implication to the town, which is not usually used by the town players, but I saw plenty of newbies mafia who used such a way of writing.
3. What evidence do YOU have against Uranium235 as I do not have any?
4. LIZ interview is not clear, as it's not clear where the lie is said. More interestingly, that Sue did not mention him in her will.
5. You wrote something direct only after accusation but stayed silent before that.
So about my suggestion - not to hang up. At first day hints were too difficult and nobody has a thinks about that they about. So i am not keen on method of vanga because of it was my decision not to vote. And about my english writing - this argument is really very strange because everuone has his own style of writing - this called as psyho track. I am not the best in English because of it I use words and constructions that i knew and i absoulutely sure in their meanings.Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions. So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...
You're mistaken, pal.
1. It's suspicious to say, that you're peaceful if you're silent.
2. Of "us" is a very big stretch from your side, too suspicious. Your way of writing is quite not peaceful for my taste. You're not saying "There is some evidence", but "we have some". Strongly implication to the town, which is not usually used by the town players, but I saw plenty of newbies mafia who used such a way of writing.
3. What evidence do YOU have against Uranium235 as I do not have any?
4. LIZ interview is not clear, as it's not clear where the lie is said. More interestingly, that Sue did not mention him in her will.
5. You wrote something direct only after accusation but stayed silent before that.
So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.
Voted:So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.
You're reading between the lines, aren't you? If you would spend a couple more minutes, you would have noticed, that I've outlined both active and inactive players and stated those, who are more suspicious to me. There is no decision of who should go down, and you're implying, that I'm trying to hang inactive players, which is not correct.
You have dodged the question once again - why Uranium? "About uranium everyone know" is not a trustworthy opinion. You should say why do you think so, maybe quote something.
Also, Uranium once said - if you gonna be silent - how do you planning to win if you're playing for the town? The silence tactic does not work, so your suggestion about the silence of peaceful players is not true.
Perhaps in this we could see tipe of writing in that you have blamed me. To my mind in this conclusion you said, that you want to hang up silent players... Perhaps you have sometning another in mind but this read to me in this light...So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.
You're reading between the lines, aren't you? If you would spend a couple more minutes, you would have noticed, that I've outlined both active and inactive players and stated those, who are more suspicious to me. There is no decision of who should go down, and you're implying, that I'm trying to hang inactive players, which is not correct.
You have dodged the question once again - why Uranium? "About uranium everyone know" is not a trustworthy opinion. You should say why do you think so, maybe quote something.
Also, Uranium once said - if you gonna be silent - how do you planning to win if you're playing for the town? The silence tactic does not work, so your suggestion about the silence of peaceful players is not true.
You are not trying to hang up silent players? You said in your answer that you think that I and Putin mod are not innocent. Your conclusion are not true because of statistic - we have 6 uninnocent roles. But at this game are 13 players. Active are only 4 players. One of them is mafia to my mind. So we have a lottery 50/50 we could kill mafia player but we could kill innocent too. The risks are too high. We should analise every facts from newspaper and because of it make a desicion without vanga cosplay.
OK OK OK! Please tell me your prediction for who we should give our votes? Any suggestions?You are not trying to hang up silent players? You said in your answer that you think that I and Putin mod are not innocent. Your conclusion are not true because of statistic - we have 6 uninnocent roles. But at this game are 13 players. Active are only 4 players. One of them is mafia to my mind. So we have a lottery 50/50 we could kill mafia player but we could kill innocent too. The risks are too high. We should analise every facts from newspaper and because of it make a desicion without vanga cosplay.
There are 4 mafia and 2 maniacs, if to be precisely correct. Risks are too high? You're joking, right? If not hang anyone - eventually all the people will be killed. How do you planning gather facts if voting for "no one"? Playing based on only a newspaper? Pff, go on, impress me with your great analysis of 2 newspapers. What, you cannot? Then there is only one way to play - based on the behavior, mafia IS a phycological game, and even in the forum format, it's remaining the very same.
OK OK OK! Please tell me your prediction for who we should give our votes? Any suggestions?
In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Perhaps i was were unconcentrated but you have said about Uranium 235 at nuclear weapon and that this fact could be evidence... Most of all some people yesterday voted for Uranium.OK OK OK! Please tell me your prediction for who we should give our votes? Any suggestions?
If consider Goose untouchable - I showed my opinion clearly, you know. There are both ways reflected - active and non-active. Though now you ARE active, what a nice way of changing! Before I have named you in the list you were silent, but now such a youthful activity.In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
But once again you did not answer to me, my heart is almost broken. Maybe if I write in all caps you will notice. Worth try anyway. WHAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE AGAINST URANIUM, THAT YOU MENTIONED AT LEAST TWICE?
Perhaps i was were unconcentrated but you have said about Uranium 235 at nuclear weapon and that this fact could be evidence... Most of all some people yesterday voted for Uranium.
Drusha |
I do not know how you read. u flip all the facts. Your sudden appearance is alarming. I think there are reasons why you do not want to die. and the reasons why you suspiciously suspect uranium, although he is a holy man! you don’t understand what Kara is asking you. At the beginning of the day, I said that the liability would still hang. You seem to me the most suspicious now. I don’t think I can build a constructive dialogue with you.
Drusha
Mr. Nobody |
Well, it’s very difficult to assume mafiosi in Julik1221, despite the fact that this player just keeps dead silence, which was not broken even when mentioning the attack on him in the newspaper, and when I vote against him. I think it’s worth removing my voice from him now.Are you serious? Why did you remove your voice? if a person does not want to make excuses, then he does not need it. hang nobody - the worst tactic now
Mr. Nobody
This should cancel my previous vote.
I hope that some additional comments from Uranium will follow. Or maybe the Falcon will wake up.
,
I just don’t want to spend my vote on who is likely to get modkill anyway. It's pointless.
But against someone else, I might vote.
I want to remind you that in the mafia, many actions can have more than one goal. One of my goals was an attempt to stir up the player, but that goal was definitely not achieved.
I just don’t want to spend my vote on who is likely to get modkill anyway. It's pointless.
oh my dear pastor ... i miss you so much! we haven’t communicated for so long ... have our paths diverged? :omg:
Do you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH
but now you look just like that, ruthless maniacDo you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH
I do not have such an opportunity. And I’m happy about this in general - I really don’t like the role of a maniac. I am far from being selfish enough to be successful in this. :knife:
OK already running!who is your goal? yulik? I know you want it, little mouse :hehehe:but now you look just like that, ruthless maniacDo you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH
I do not have such an opportunity. And I’m happy about this in general - I really don’t like the role of a maniac. I am far from being selfish enough to be successful in this. :knife:
We won't achieve anything if we don't hang anyone, so if you have such opportunity, why don't you use it? also there's no only Julik, also Drusha and maybe Messor. but I hope he'll wake up and say something
Drusha |
This time I'll divide all the player to active and inactive and give my overview as follow:
Active:
01. pastor chivay - as I told - thought that he is LIZ, but now it's clear, that he is not. But still, he is a way to active for the mafia and mostly logical and consistently sharp-minded. I don't think, that new player will play in such a style for the mafia. Almost red.
05. l10ha - most of his babbling is useless but tried to proclaim me as a mafia based on the outfit of my avatar and that is really nice move, giving him much more credit. While he's having fun with Pastor - Pastor is still far more trustworthy. Really strange, that Uranium235 said not to argue with the Goose. Ok, this day I will not show any disrespect to his way of playing. Color: under Uranium235 defense.
06. Falcon hunting - seems, that a midnight wanderer will be right alias to him, as he never wrote anything useful during the day and by that avoided all possible debates. Ash-colored
07. shiori - one thing I like about him, as he gave his analysis before reading the most popular vision in the topic. If it hasn't been done deliberately - that is the town player trait. I still see him as close to red.
14. Anony-mouse - changed his playstyle from "let me be a selfish bystander" to "let's make the analysis great again". It's a sudden change, almost as if he wants to take the lead over the Uranium235. With such a sudden change is more black.
15. Uranium235 - showed a complicated way of hint-solving, so this should be the town player, as from the mafia point of view - there is nothing better for the town to follow the wrong way by themselves. Red.
This section can be called as "fifty shades of gray", and it would be 100% correct. How is it even possible to analyze inactive players? For me, it's much easier to find reasoning against an active player, rather than against inactive, but still, I'll give it a try.
Almost purely inactive:
02. Dmixn - one hi and nothing more. Inactive today and not interest in a game. I believe, that such players should be kicked out by the host, not by the town.
12. InVictA - not active since the 15th of April, so he has no interest in his NA.
10. Julik1221 - never wrote anything, but mentioned in the analysis once. Have no idea what to think about him.
11. SamPie - one post and it's too much for entry. Tiny darker than gray.
Voted:
03. Putin mod.2 - voted for No one, so he has some interest and doesn't want to be thought about him as inactive.
08. Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.
In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.
who is your goal? yulik? I know you want it, little mouse
Drusha |
This should cancel my previous vote.
that is, you admit that you are a maniac?who is your goal? yulik? I know you want it, little mouse
I'm afraid there’s no big difference in who will be my target at night. While alive, I will try to benefit in the daytime, as far as I can.
Drusha |
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drusha |
Oh, I'm having a hard time here, to be honest. A lot of words and messages, but I gathered my thoughts and read everything.
Most of all, I liked the message from the player Kara_Mel . I want to vote for the Anony-mouse because he really has changed a lot in his behavior, which is quite strange. I may be led by Kara_Mel, but he has a very strong argument. I vote for
that is, you admit that you are a maniac?
I may refuse to accept the votes without any justification whatsoever.
drusha
Oh, I'm having a hard time here, to be honest. A lot of words and messages, but I gathered my thoughts and read everything.
Most of all, I liked the message from the player Kara_Mel . I want to vote for the Anony-mouse because he really has changed a lot in his behavior, which is quite strange. I may be led by Kara_Mel, but he has a very strong argument. I vote for
A very nasty excuse for voting that hurt me right in the heart, sweetheart.Цитироватьthat is, you admit that you are a maniac?
Even the most miserable maniac would not admit it. I'm not a maniac. True true! :kekeke:
Oh, I'm having a hard time here, to be honest. A lot of words and messages, but I gathered my thoughts and read everything.
Most of all, I liked the message from the player Kara_Mel . I want to vote for the Anony-mouse because he really has changed a lot in his behavior, which is quite strange. I may be led by Kara_Mel, but he has a very strong argument. I vote for
A very nasty excuse for voting that hurt me right in the heart, sweetheart.Цитироватьthat is, you admit that you are a maniac?
or don't you like a goose? maybe you like Putin more? or sampai? Who?
Even the most miserable maniac would not admit it. I'm not a maniac. True true! :kekeke:
so who will be your victim? or will you help in the killing? how about me?
so who will be your victim? or will you help in the killing? how about me?
so who will be your victim? or will you help in the killing? how about me?
Even if I come to you, you won’t even feel pain, I can promise you that. Well ... to be honest, I’m unlikely to go to you. As a night goal, you are less interesting to me than some others. :smoke:
, no, honestly, don’t you think that if a player with an avatar mixed from Mickey Mouse and Guy Fawkes mask should be given a role with the description "With a Guy Fawkes mask in place of the face and intimidating
weapons instead of the hands ... " then would it be a little excessive?)))
somewhere in the corner laughing GM!so who will be your victim? or will you help in the killing? how about me?
Even if I come to you, you won’t even feel pain, I can promise you that. Well ... to be honest, I’m unlikely to go to you. As a night goal, you are less interesting to me than some others. :smoke:
, no, honestly, don’t you think that if a player with an avatar mixed from Mickey Mouse and Guy Fawkes mask should be given a role with the description "With a Guy Fawkes mask in place of the face and intimidating
weapons instead of the hands ... " then would it be a little excessive?)))
somewhere in the corner laughing GM!
:no:I am sure that it is not his fault! you can not blame him! how ugly it is, pastor! I am sure that if he wants to kill someone, he will definitely say! as he did with julik. left him for later!somewhere in the corner laughing GM!
Or screaming in pain...
Funny provocations from the mouse, either he has nothing to lose or this is a good move to push suspections away
On the Caramel question, no, the meaning is a bit different.
Putin-mod now seems to me much more peaceful than it seemed so yesterday, with a stupid question what is happening, the answer to which he did not care. But of course, I would not argue for its color - I simply state that I no longer claim that it is “rather black”.
I also liked Invict's attack on the Mouse.It corresponds with my current logic, so there is a reason to suspect Mouse. Basically, it uses my statements against Mouse, but it's yet very unlikely that he will go down. So the option with the "giving vote away to provide further cover" still can be true.
MessorI think I should inform you that Falcon hunting asked for a replacement. I'm trying to figure it out (as you might think, there isn't plenty of replacement options), but so you know.
Ok, it's becoming more clear. But still one question - so the "black cloth" only points to the description of the role, but not the player himself?On the contrary, only to the player.
It corresponds with my current logic, so there is a reason to suspect Mouse. Basically, it uses my statements against Mouse, but it's yet very unlikely that he will go down. So the option with the "giving vote away to provide further cover" still can be true.At the moment, I changed my mind a bit.
By the way, if you ask yourself why I haven’t voted yet, then I won’t be able to clearly answer it. But if you didn’t ask, then you can tell why.
I think I should inform you that Falcon hunting asked for a replacement. I'm trying to figure it out (as you might think, there isn't plenty of replacement options), but so you know.I'll ask Uranium here - how often do replacements take place here (at this forum) and which type of role usually gets replaced (by statistics) - mafia or the town?
Too simple option, I mean:
Bratuha, Dryusha, Invicta and SamPai.
As a mentor, I am obliged to answer that it is not too correct to discuss the conclusions from the fact of a replacement or a possible replacement (in this case), and sometimes the ban is explicitly stated.
This is not prohibited now, therefore, you can punish GM and discuss it specifically so that next time this item is not missed. But in this party I pursue other goals, and therefore I will not participate in such a discussion.
And I was not in a hurry with my voice before I saw the extension.
dursha |
I really am not sure and said that.
It’s too bold for the maf to call you and me black — after all, we now have confidence to execute the objectionable only for these words.
But this did not stop me from voting either in support or in the alternative version, because the voice can be changed.
dursha
Annonimous |
I would like to see his answer on this message to continue my analise.And tell me, why is the fact that you waited only 15 minutes for an answer, why did you decide that at that time convenient for you, the Mouse will be able to answer?
Drusha, my apologies. |
SamPie |
Ok! You are making a great mistake but your sureness that i am mafia is so strong that you could not hear the voice of mind. So ok. For some reasons i would say my perhaps last analise of situation - Kara mel perhaps has a bad role. Because of her actions during the day like blaming me and another players witout any arguements exept "he is bad because he is too silent" I am said that i perhaps some unconcentraited but you Kara mel has blamed Uranium too have you... The arguments of type of writing is [bull] because everyone has his own type of writing... So because of it and desires to hang up by vanga method i think that she is mafia. About another players - To my mind shiori is not mafia because of his answers on questions of LIZ. Uranium could be a mafia too because of much of stranges between him and Kara mel but i am not sure. l10ha - perhaps he is a mafia too because of his stranges - he wants to hang up every silent player too. This is only a hypotiz from vanga method but... So if city is so want to hang up me - go on. But before voting you should think - are riskies too high? Could i be only innconet who become a victim of agressive active players? So that is all that i could say. Perhaps this analise will help city perhaps not, but i invoke everyone - please think only by your heads, your minds. The innocents could win only if everyone would not be manipulated by someone. Agressive vangas are include in this title.
So about Anninymouse. He is really strange. After two nights we could not be inactive wait-man. So Perhaps he is a mafia and he is trying to keep thi situation... Stability. He could have a maniac role and i am but i am not sure at all to vote him. I would like to see his answer on this message to continue my analise.
"he is bad because he is too silent"
And bearing in mind that the rule of early hanging is in effect, if 50% + of the votes are cast against, it is impossible to vote thoughtlessly.
Execution demands a simple majority vote. When the day ends, the player with the most votes is lynched. If more than one player gets the same number of votes, the player who gained the number first if lynched. If the majority abstains, the day ends without execution.
For example, I know that caramel is a mafia or a maniac. choosing between you and her I will hang you. I'm too lazy to explain why, but I think you understand
It seems that this is where the day ends. I’m not so motivated to wait until the last minutes to see if someone will organize an attack against me or not. It is likely that the mafia would be satisfied with both possible outcomes.
Drusha, my apologies.
My motivation is simple - This town ain't big enough for the both of us(нere the master of the game will probably burst into a satanic laugh). Bolivar cannot carry double.
if I knew that you were a mafia, I would try to prove it. or now I have few facts to do this"he is bad because he is too silent"
Before any compliances from your side, please understand, that it's hard to play against silent players as you just don't have any info to work with.
The argument was to lure out a silent player into a discussion. You bit it too well and in the end, provided a pile of incorrect arguments. I'm still pretty sure, that you are mafia with such game style, but if you're not - what is your aid to the cause?And bearing in mind that the rule of early hanging is in effect, if 50% + of the votes are cast against, it is impossible to vote thoughtlessly.
Please explain. As the rules for voting are:Execution demands a simple majority vote. When the day ends, the player with the most votes is lynched. If more than one player gets the same number of votes, the player who gained the number first if lynched. If the majority abstains, the day ends without execution.For example, I know that caramel is a mafia or a maniac. choosing between you and her I will hang you. I'm too lazy to explain why, but I think you understand
Just a nice piece of advice. If you know, that I am mafia, you should do everything to lynch me.
Curiously, we managed to wait for votes from three silent players out of five. And two of them are against Drusha.There are various options. Drusha can be the citizen and silencers can be bandits. And this is the bad play. Or they can be citizens too and anyway this is the bad play. Drusha can be bandit and silencers can be too. And theirs vote is for self-defense. But the more likely option — Drusha is bandit and silencers are citizens.
Curiously, we managed to wait for votes from three silent players out of five. And two of them are against Drusha.There are various options. Drusha can be the citizen and silencers can be bandits. And this is the bad play. Or they can be citizens too and anyway this is the bad play. Drusha can be bandit and silencers can be too. And theirs vote is for self-defense. But the more likely option — Drusha is bandit and silencers are citizens.
For me the most interesting part in players' interactions now is the Caramel-chan vs Anon engagement. They apparently are not from one team.
You are terrible mistaken, Shiori and other "citizens" Now you will have - 1 citizen player who could cover up the match. So, my apologies for everyone who trust that i am not a mafia but because of the reason - "agressive vangas attack" I would be likely hanged up. So, Innocents please be more careful. Not trust vangas... They are a certain mountebank, perhaps they are innocent, but to my mind somebody of them are mafia. Kara mel? Lha? Somebody either? Now it is your resosibility - win them and finally said who was mafia and who was innocent. I have peaceful role because of it you have mistaken. Please analise more and do vanga-cosplay less. Because you have not psyonic skills ;)Curiously, we managed to wait for votes from three silent players out of five. And two of them are against Drusha.There are various options. Drusha can be the citizen and silencers can be bandits. And this is the bad play. Or they can be citizens too and anyway this is the bad play. Drusha can be bandit and silencers can be too. And theirs vote is for self-defense. But the more likely option — Drusha is bandit and silencers are citizens.
For me the most interesting part in players' interactions now is the Caramel-chan vs Anon engagement. They apparently are not from one team.
, the city is often mistaken - this is the very nature of this fraction. You were also mistaken - I had absolutely no interest in voting against you, but I had to.I had given the advice to everyone - think by yourself heads. It is the main for mafia game and innocent vicrory in it. I had said about misatake if nobody hear me - ok, but with post effects of this decision you will be cope only with yourself heads without my analise. I hope that it will help innocents win but with remaining number of players the victory is more and more incredible.
I have peaceful role because of it you have mistaken. Please analise more and do vanga-cosplay less. Because you have not psyonic skills ;)
...But everything's changed when Drusha took the stage! “BLOOOOOOOD!”, the Judge was shrieking dreadfully. The hands of one of the gentlemen were laid on Drusha's throat, while the other pushed, applying some force, the chainsword deep into his chest. As his eyesight failed, Drusha saw the two gentlemen cheek by cheek, close in front of his face, watching the result. “Like a meat bag!” he said, it was as if the shame of it should outlive him.
A meat bag - means human, so to cyborgs or anyone else.
Very brief - the first impression, didn't go into details.
Blood - could be a reference to Sweeney, considering the hypothesis, that Bratuha was killed by him and there was blood.
Chainsword - I thought about "vast collection of medieval weaponry", but chainsword is rather a modern weapon. Biggles has some weapon relation. Sweeney too, as his arms are weapons.
A meat bag - means human, so to cyborgs or anyone else.
it was as if the shame of it should outlive him.most likely this phrase refers to the one who was blamed too as Drusha
I had given the advice to everyone - think by yourself heads.Of course. I see Cara-chan's and Anon's reasonable thoughts about papers and overall situation. And nothing from you. What should I do? The answer is obvious.
Please explain. As the rules for voting are:I did not take into account that the rule of early lynch also changed. It is good that he is no more, but the essence of the explanation does not change.
We can still have this discussion now, right?Yup, we definitely can have it now.
Falcon hunting got stuck by a bolt of lightning. The explosion was so hard it actually left me without the glass in the beforementioned window! It seems that the hand not of her Majesty, but her boss—also known as God—personally reaped Falcon's soul.
Falcon couldn't continue playing and got a modkill. No other player said they aren't able to stay in the game but have some penalties and might be modkilled this Day and/or next Night. I think one modkill per phase could work.
It seems, however, that shiori had a decent try: he was noticed running down the streets with a trail of blood following him. Being stopped by a bobby, he said that someone had attacked him, but he wasn't able to describe the assailant.
As for the last minute, when this issue was ready for publishing, I was reported that shiori was home already and that he would get better in no timeFirstly I wanted to say that it's hardly to say who exactly tried to kill Shi and even thought about Todd, but now it seems like it was Mary.
The city council is paralyzed; the executives took vacations all at once for some vague obscure reason."The executives" = mafia? If so, then another suspicions were confirmed. At the end of newspaper GM noted that some players are gone. And this hint means that one or even couple of mwoofiosi are inactive. So at this clue the circle of suspects are narrowed.
the notorious den—disguised as some absurd poultry sanctuary—fortifiesHow rude, mr. George, how rude >:^(
Moreover, there are already several reports about streets leading pedestrians in circles. How can it be explained as not the new, deeper system hacks?There are nothing else about mass hacks, so there I see only one option: Hyde checked someone and was not able to block and Christopher Robin missed the night, because he has only block and nothing more. Or maybe Falcon was Robin - I think there is no need to explain the reason why he could not act.
Even sadder, we are losing hope to get any correspondence from our beloved reader LIZ who managed to become a star with her first and only post.For now I have no doubt that LIZ was Sue. That's sound a bit unrealistic if LIZ would be blocked for another night again, so yeah... Goodbye, LIZ's interviews
Hyde checked someone and was not able to blockRegarding to the executives I want to admit that if Hyde was inactive too, then the reason why there's no block is that he is inactive and just missed the night
DmixnThis is waiting for modkill, I think, but I still want to kick out Sampai.
the notorious den—disguised as some absurd poultry sanctuary—fortifies its ill fame with the chain of events that slowly but surely interfere with an ordinary course of things.Den is Alice's bar, for some reason it seems to me like that.
The city council is paralyzedBut this I can not determine. It may be clarified later, but I'm not sure that this is just a pass of the Mafia’s moves, I’m not at all sure.
Deadline WED, 2 AM. 48 hours left.We have less time than you think, it is unlikely that we can conduct an active discussion immediately before the close of the day.
SamPie |
Messor is an office worker. Moreover, this is Fergus’s office, which describes a criminal chronicle.
If not this bizarre event I was so lucky to witness, I would have lost a huge pile of cryptopounds, as no one else decided to part their way with London's streets tonight. It seems, however, that shiori had a decent try: he was noticed running down the streets with a trail of blood following him. Being stopped by a bobby, he said that someone had attacked him, but he wasn't able to describe the assailant. As for the last minute, when this issue was ready for publishing, I was reported that shiori was home already and that he would get better in no time. Way to go, shiori!
The city council is paralyzed;
notorious den—disguised as some absurd poultryI see "den" as Twist's Post-Trotskyist movement, as a headquarters could be called a den.
There is a range of possibilities - Mary Poppins, someone protected by Ebenezer Scrooge (if consider a possible mistake with role of Bratuha), Sweeney Todd, Sherlock's protection, Biggles, Oliver Twist.
You should consider the Shiori interview.There is one thing bugging me.
– Do you know anyone who has already given way to his or her homicidal tendencies?Mafia did not kill anyone when the question arose. Does it still mean that mafia given way to homicidal tendencies in that case?
Mafia did not kill anyone when the question arose. Does it still mean that mafia given way to homicidal tendencies in that case?
And I, perhaps, will not vote against SamPie. I'm afraid, of course, that such a statement of mine can only harm him, given that some are ready to attribute to me the role of mafiosi. But nonetheless.Justify that you vytit in him urban and name your candidacy. Well, or you can try to name those against whom you are also not ready to vote in any case.
That's why I see it as a range of possibilities.No. If we consider that the question concerns those who have already killed, but cannot kill, it turns out that all the players would answer no to it, and this contradicts the principles of the interview.
Justify that you vytit in him urban and name your candidacy. Well, or you can try to name those against whom you are also not ready to vote in any case.
If you call the complete list, whoever I would not hang now for one or another reason, then this - shiori, you, pastor chivay, l10ha, SamPie and Kara_Mel.Is Dryusha peaceful or the mafia?
Is Dryusha peaceful or the mafia?
Well, in my opinion, giving someone color for no apparent reason with the story “there are things that cannot be said” cannot be considered a violation of the prohibition of autopsy in only one case - if in fact it was not because there was no information, that is, a hint of a lie is voiced.
How many mafias are there among those whom you are not ready to vote? Are there Todd among these players?
include only one nickname - shioriAnd this is approximately what I wanted to show initially when I asked for the list. That your reason for not voting is inconclusive at the moment, given that you are not against all the other low-level assets, and only them.
Then why.Because. Because I do not want. And this is an extremely good reason for me.
Well, a hint of her Majesty’s hand is taking place, but what is the name of the mafia?You have not commented on this.
You have not commented on this.
It seems that Fortune herself keeps an eye on the size of my wallet. I was about to bring you the shocking twice-in-a-week murderless night—when the right in front of my eyes, my dear readers!—beside my very office window, Falcon hunting got stuck by a bolt of lightning. The explosion was so hard it actually left me without the glass in the aforementioned window! It seems that the hand not of Her Majesty, but her boss—also known as God—personally reaped Falcon's soul.Looks like modkill.
If not this bizarre event I was so lucky to witness, I would have lost a huge pile of cryptopounds, as no one else decided to part their way with London's streets tonight. It seems, however, that shiori had a decent try: he was noticed running around the streets with a trail of blood following him. Being stopped by a bobby, he said that someone had attacked him, but he wasn't able to describe the assailant. As for the last minute, when this issue was ready for publishing, I was told that shiori was home already and that he would get better in no time. Way to go, shiori!A failed kill. Looks like a defense. Could not detect the killer. And there is no other kill attempts anyway.
Anony-Mouse victim is strange as Julik is inactive and was a target to kill.
Following that logic - out of these beautiful 5 players - Dmixn and Julik1221 are the first candidates to be modkilled, so I think it's reasonable to lynch one of the other 3.Looks reasonable.
More than a day passed when l10ha voted against Drusha, and this option suddenly turned out to be so popular that two players even broke their vow of silence for the sake of voting, including Julik.Ok, how many bandits are in the list of Drusha voters? And who exactly. I will remind — l10ha, Kara_Mel, pastor chivay, Putin mod.2, shiori, Anony-mouse.
until this night I was sure that he was a mafia or a maniac.
and I think that he can be a sherlock.
I was sure that the mafia and maniac would kill inactive, but now it doesn’t work like that.
Now I think the mouse is a maniac.
anony-mouse |
mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion)Based on what you deduced it?
Goose, with whom is Mouse in the team? And if he is a maniac, then you are voting at the wrong address, not knowing the number of the living mafia to get rid of him an absurd decision.idk it’s strange that the julik is still alive. that the mouse tried to protect her at the beginning of the second night. so I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.
Pastor, let's get involved in the discussion too. The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good, but you have to decide on blacks.mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion)Based on what you deduced it?
For me, so if Bratukha is a maf, then Scrooge, because business.
Of course, there is a twofold phrase there, the desktop, which may also apply to the virtual table - but taking as its basis it is becoming difficult for the mafia to approve.
idk it’s strange that the julik is still alive. that the mouse tried to protect her at the beginning of the second night. so I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.And why does he vote him?
l10ha |
Goose, with whom is Mouse in the team? And if he is a maniac, then you are voting at the wrong address, not knowing the number of the living mafia to get rid of him an absurd decision.
Pastor, let's get involved in the discussion too. The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good, but you have to decide on blacks.mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion)Based on what you deduced it?
For me, so if Bratukha is a maf, then Scrooge, because business.
Of course, there is a twofold phrase there, the desktop, which may also apply to the virtual table - but taking as its basis it is becoming difficult for the mafia to approve.
The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly goodYes it is you should try it too!
but you have to decide on blacks.Anony-mouse's behavior is really strange, but I don't really think that he is maniac. Not sure if GM was looked on his profile picture and description and while cheery yelling just: "HELL YEAH HE WILL BE TODD YA KNOW GUY HAWKS WHEHEEE". Anyway, I don't think that he is peaceful for now and for me he closely to mafia, but if so then he probably someone without weapon like Hyde or Moreau
And why does he vote him?
(if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)
just for fun
l10ha
Putin mod.2 |
how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.idk it’s strange that the julik is still alive. that the mouse tried to protect her at the beginning of the second night. so I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.And why does he vote him?
(if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)
But if you have no explanation for Mouse’s voice, Goose, then you issued the most illogical statement that it is a sign of the mafia. It would be better to find him.
hope you are hanged just for fun :flush:The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly goodYes it is you should try it too!but you have to decide on blacks.Anony-mouse's behavior is really strange, but I don't really think that he is maniac. Not sure if GM was looked on his profile picture and description and while cheery yelling just: "HELL YEAH HE WILL BE TODD YA KNOW GUY HAWKS WHEHEEE". Anyway, I don't think that he is peaceful for now and for me he closely to mafia, but if so then he probably someone without weapon like Hyde or MoreauAnd why does he vote him?
(if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)
First I wanted to say that is cheating maneuver, but then realized that is too risky for mafia do such things. And not sure that if Julik really mafia, but if so - then he is just like ballast in his team. I more prefer version where SamPie the mafia too and that's the reason why Anony-mouse abstained from voting for himjust for fun
l10ha I don't understand why you maintain such sluggisn activity with no arguments and still playСпойлерhaha mafia so funny game lmao just for lulz
how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.I ask, on the basis of which you brought Mouse and Julik together with the mafia, given the Mouse's voice against the Julik.
I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.
I repeat again. I wrote above why I consider them in one team. I’m sorry that I read all your essays, and you can’t even read a small message. but I will repeat it again especially for you. I consider them on the same team, because after the attack on Julik, the mouse asked to cure him, the next day he did not vote for him right away. after the comments he voted. maybe he did it because he thought no one would kill a julika? since then a new victim, drusha, appeared. then all abruptly departed from the identity of the julik and switched to drushu. so clear?how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.I ask, on the basis of which you brought Mouse and Julik together with the mafia, given the Mouse's voice against the Julik.
And I really do not like the fact that you chose not to understand this question so as not to answer it.
A new attempt, and my patience is not unlimited.I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.
What I am observing now is silent horror.
Do you understand such a thing as joint voting?
Campaign do not understand.
Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.
Explain to me why the Sampai lynch is bad, that you refuse to support him?
Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here what the point?how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.I ask, on the basis of which you brought Mouse and Julik together with the mafia, given the Mouse's voice against the Julik.
And I really do not like the fact that you chose not to understand this question so as not to answer it.
A new attempt, and my patience is not unlimited.I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.
What I am observing now is silent horror.
Do you understand such a thing as joint voting?
Campaign do not understand.
Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.
Explain to me why the Sampai lynch is bad, that you refuse to support him?
so clear?No, it’s not clear to me how you explain his voice now.
Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here what the point?Now this is more like an explanation, thanks.
I do not understand. I’ve already got everything for you. will you be sure of my wrong choice until i vote for sampai? I don’t like when someone tries to impose someone else’s opinions on me. I specifically do not want to vote for him now. I'm a free bird, you knowso clear?No, it’s not clear to me how you explain his voice now.
And (on-mode mentor) in this case it is necessary to start with Julik, because there is always the probability of an error in assessing the mafia, and against the Julik there is an additional Mouse voice, that is, the probability of success of this vote becomes higher.
If you think differently (that it is easier to expel the Mouse), then explain why.Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here what the point?Now this is more like an explanation, thanks.
And can you tell who else can be with them two or can not be with them two?
I’m too lazy to explain this all to you. the goose did not sleep for a long time and he needs go to sleep. I will come back to you in a few hours and explain all my theories.so clear?No, it’s not clear to me how you explain his voice now.
And (on-mode mentor) in this case it is necessary to start with Julik, because there is always the probability of an error in assessing the mafia, and against the Julik there is an additional Mouse voice, that is, the probability of success of this vote becomes higher.
If you think differently (that it is easier to expel the Mouse), then explain why.Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here what the point?Now this is more like an explanation, thanks.
And can you tell who else can be with them two or can not be with them two?
I do not understand. I’ve already got everything for you. will you be sure of my wrong choice until i vote for sampai? I don’t like when someone tries to impose someone else’s opinions on me. I specifically do not want to vote for him now. I'm a free bird, you knowNo, I don’t like that you’re not trying to convince me that I’m wrong and should vote with you.
I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here what the point?I'm going to modkill one offliner each day and one offliner each night until we're out of offliners to modkill. Now I have 5 candidates to choose from, more or less randomly each time (the stage of lethargy counts). You still are able to accelerate this process if you want, but it's not necessary.
Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.
Pastor, can you explain to me what is happening.Of course, my son, you can always ask me to help! :sobeauty:
I see all four of those who voted after me as those still leaders, because each of them leads his own line, without regard to the rest.I don't remember that someone voted for you as leader and in fact we must not to have leader, but we may. Perhaps you considered the support of you at the beginning of game as leadership, but it turned out to be wrong. In fact, it's difficult for me to gather my thoughts in this ocean of other's thoughts and suspects. And as Anony-mouse said, it's hard to lead the discussion while part of sense of the text (especially yours) is lost due to translator. So yeah, now we can see obscure stream of other player's thoughts. Maybe this meticulousness was the reason of such low activity
Either it was extremely erroneous to consider many active players as citizens, or we have a crisis that manifested itself in the fact that new players are overly optimistic in assessing their experience and skills. What do you think, Uranium?)
But even in this case, the game will not cease to be educational.
Anony-mouse |
Even Shiori acts too little to be exactly peaceful.Sorry, I can not read this volume of english text especially at the working days.
There is a 50/50 chance that a victim of the mafia/maniac would be another inactiveDoes not exist. With the same logic as the city, “They'll Die Anyway,” the chance drops to about zero.
So. I can support hanging of any passive player.Choose for sure, there is not enough time left until the end.
hey how do you like such a theory? mouse and uranium boundThere is a 50/50 chance that a victim of the mafia/maniac would be another inactiveDoes not exist. With the same logic as the city, “They'll Die Anyway,” the chance drops to about zero.So. I can support hanging of any passive player.Choose for sure, there is not enough time left until the end.
My recommendation is SamPai, he, according to the logic of skipping the vote in peaceful Dryusha, is the most likely mafia.
Well, you can estimate how many people who wanted to support this vote were found (not at all).
Does not exist. With the same logic as the city, “They'll Die Anyway,” the chance drops to about zero.I don't get anything again. I guess that you just deny the fact that Anony-mouse can be mafia. Why then?
My recommendation is SamPai, he, according to the logic of skipping the vote in peaceful Dryusha, is the most likely mafia.And to me it seems that he is just don't care about game. I'm not even sure that he carefully read what we wrote here. But maybe you're right. Anyway I still sure that he'll be modkilled soon and my opinion has not changed
hey how do you like such a theory? mouse and uranium boundIt is useless to prove to me that I am connected with someone, this must be done explaining my position to others.
I don't get anything again. I guess that you just deny the fact that Anony-mouse can be mafia. Why then?I do not deny, I see him less likely given the pressure against him. That is, either he has companions who can at least say something, or someone deliberately merges it from their own. In both cases, he will be doomed in any case.
Choose for sure, there is not enough time left until the end.I will support, but not choose. By the way, I wrote about Putin's presence in the last voting. You all can discuss this.
I have a strong temptation to support my execution, since the next two days I will very likely be busy more than expected.
Oh, and yes, I seem to have overdone it a bit with choosing an unpleasant avatar. It is very difficult to trust a person with such an avatar.
I will support, but not choose. By the way, I wrote about Putin's presence in the last voting. You all can discuss this.Hmm, and who do you want to support? I mean, who is that peaceful (s) who will be your support.
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But you can study how many times I expressed my dissatisfaction with the Mouse, or how many times he supported me at least in something important, if you are interested in how it will be broken.
For me, the Mouse is still a frequent maniac / Orlando still, that is, it was just peacefulness that I did not see.
Yes, he is simply suspected by everyone around who has even expressed something, even Invict. That is, the mafia team with him must contain offers, one way or another, which you do not want to tell.I don't get anything again. I guess that you just deny the fact that Anony-mouse can be mafia. Why then?I do not deny, I see him less likely given the pressure against him. That is, either he has companions who can at least say something, or someone deliberately merges it from their own. In both cases, he will be doomed in any case.
As for the death of SamPai, I doubt that it will be earlier than Dmksin and Julik, if suddenly one of them does not come to act.
, everything is not so simple. If I were sure that the townspeople hang me - I, as a true citizen, could not help but support them. The problem is that I'm not so sure that those who hang me are the townspeople. From the goose, there was still no benefit to the city, for example. But he already hung one citizen.
Kara_Mel, It amazes me how you manage to ignore the fact that "sleeping" mafiosi can wake up at the click of a finger. Sleeping mafiosi perform NA, and if I understand correctly, then for this reason they will have a chance to fall under the modkill later than the "sleeping" townspeople, who are inactive day and night.
, everything is not so simple. If I were sure that the townspeople hang me - I, as a true citizen, could not help but support them. The problem is that I'm not so sure that those who hang me are the townspeople. From the goose, there was still no benefit to the city, for example. But he already hung one citizen.I helped to hang a drushu because it was inactive. I was not interested in his role. I want to remind you that from the very beginning of the day I said, "I will hang all the dead indiscriminately," so I did. he paid for his silence.
, It amazes me how you manage to ignore the fact that "sleeping" mafiosi can wake up at the click of a finger. Sleeping mafiosi perform NA, and if I understand correctly, then for this reason they will have a chance to fall under the modkill later than the "sleeping" townspeople, who are inactive day and night.
, this is not stupid in some circumstances. For example, when you simply do not have so much time to pull the city out of the swamp into which it is striving by all means. In fact, I’m not at all sure that I would be able to save the city even if I had time, but at least I would really try to do it.come on, convince me that you are not a mafia. we have time before wednesday, right?
, As far as I remember, you did not just help to hang Drusha, it was you who started this process.Yes, I started this process and do not hide. at that time he confused everything and became a victim of this roulette. am I a mafia? No, not the mafia, and I'm sure of it. why did i vote for you now? because have to act.
Further, of the two of us, it was I who tried to hang the “inactive” player — not you. When I voted against Julik1221, he did not have a single post, and Drusha had 13 posts.
I also analyzed both newspapers and Shiori's interviews.
Now prove that YOU are not a mafia. In general, I wonder how you imagine how someone can prove it? At least I do everything that a good citizen should do.
if I were you, I would stop blaming us for the stupidity of our actions :flush:, As far as I remember, you did not just help to hang Drusha, it was you who started this process.Yes, I started this process and do not hide. at that time he confused everything and became a victim of this roulette. am I a mafia? No, not the mafia, and I'm sure of it. why did i vote for you now? because have to act.
Further, of the two of us, it was I who tried to hang the “inactive” player — not you. When I voted against Julik1221, he did not have a single post, and Drusha had 13 posts.
I also analyzed both newspapers and Shiori's interviews.
Now prove that YOU are not a mafia. In general, I wonder how you imagine how someone can prove it? At least I do everything that a good citizen should do.
am I a mafia? No, not the mafia, and I'm sure of it.
if I were you, I would stop blaming us for the stupidity of our actions
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the other options are even worse.You are just incredibly stubborn.
Both Mouse and Uranium trying to get out of the game non-actives, who are gonna be killed by GM anyway. Why? It won't give any more info to play with. Putin at least now caught in one voting turmoil.And I told you why. I can repeat it - because there is not enough time for all five.
I will support, but not choose.Shiori never said how peaceful he prefers to support, if he doesn’t come up with his own candidate.
Just because Anon's theory about last hanging. Idk, is this choice good or not.Was waiting for me?
Julik1221 |
For now, I would generally kick the Julik out.why julik mafia? ... you know, I don’t want to change my decision
The mouse hurried to remove his voice.
Goose's opinion Julik is also a mafia, he can be made to vote on him. In the end, if the Mouse turns off this suspect when there are people willing to, it will prove the mafia is too clear for him to risk taking it.
Shiori likes Mouse theories; he can also be made to vote on him.
, Well, Gus, will we turn into a Julik?
He’s the Mafia, I remind you. And the chances of chasing out the Mouse after Shiori's voice are definitely not very good. It’s trite to require at least a re-voice of Caramel, or 2 voices (mine and someone else, just tell me first this someone). What I will not do is a draw, it’s pretty obvious.
Mouse will not have a chance to change his voice with his rhetoric, since he considers Rogue to be a mafia, and Putin-mod is the best substitute, no more.
I don’t want to support Shiori already, with such passive rhetoric.
I can support the caramel, but will not talk, it will again become uninteresting.
An ideal compromise candidate, on the account of which we do not know who he is this bullshit.I will ask again. why we must vote now for a dead player if he dies anyway?
He does not give information.
That's how willing Gus and Mouse are to vote their Rogue Mafia - informative in any case.
In general, I will vote, and in an hour I will read your excuses why you do not want to kick out your mafia.
And from Shiori and Caramel, too, by the way. From Caramel - its mafia Mouse, from Shiori, on the contrary, why it does not support the Mouse as a peaceful one.
One offer must be demolished, and this should give information. Putin-mod will not give information. The crook will give, both in the case when he hangs, and in the case when he does not hang.
Julik1221
why julik mafia? ... you know, I don’t want to change my decisionYou told me this yourself today.
I will ask again. why we must vote now for a dead player if he dies anyway?And I’ll answer about the fifth time - all the offers will not die, the game will end earlier. And we need information about them at least posthumously, since they will not get it from a live player.
pastor, also u may answer, who are players who vote in Mouse to kill him (need 4 votes or more vs 3 in Putinmod)?
I assumed then and you know it perfectly. you are aggressively trying to convince me that I’m wrong. if they don’t hang a mouse, then I don’t care. it is already hard to answer your questions. I feel a thick wall between us.why julik mafia? ... you know, I don’t want to change my decisionYou told me this yourself today.
Why Julik Mafia with Mouse. Something there involving treatment.
The mouse does not hang, as you see, if you do not convince Caramel or Shiori, or me + someone else. It’s possible for me, but first show me this second one.
I do not say that he is a mafia, I argue that the refusal of you and Mice to vote in your mafia will give information that we lack, because I agree to peacefully vote my mafia in order to drive out.I will ask again. why we must vote now for a dead player if he dies anyway?And I’ll answer about the fifth time - all the offers will not die, the game will end earlier. And we need information about them at least posthumously, since they will not get it from a live player.
I don’t want to change my voice either.
But it is clear that I did not receive support, and I have to concede.
Many have to concede, this is the essence of teamwork in the city, by avoiding which the mafia is well calculated.
Seems he has left.why do u vote for Putin? he's gonna die so soon
Maybe someone else wants me to change the vote of mine. The same list of questions to you - just use nickname you need.
I'm still here, but I'm really sleepy, so instead of reading out your text and answering your questions let's do otherwise. I'll ask you, Uranium.It doesn’t work like that. I warned that the discussion must begin earlier. Who tightened up? The complaint is rejected, it is necessary to read and respond.
I assumed thenguess again.
By the way, if with two votes in me and three in Putin, we will be executed both, then the goose and the pastor are most likely the mafia. Maniac, cowboy, take into account.
Seems he has left.why do u vote for Putin? he's gonna die so soon
Maybe someone else wants me to change the vote of mine. The same list of questions to you - just use nickname you need.
I dint want do answer u :sorry:I assumed thenguess again.
Who is with the mouse?
And do not forget to say that earlier you were apparently mistaken, and Mouse-Julik is not team.
I dint want do answer uWhy?
im sure that I am right. I am tired if your trying to force my own defeat on me.I assumed thenguess again.
Who is with the mouse?
And do not forget to say that earlier you were apparently mistaken, and Mouse-Julik is not team.
I'm still here, but I'm really sleepy, so instead of reading out your text and answering your questions let's do otherwise. I'll ask you, Uranium.It doesn’t work like that. I warned that the discussion must begin earlier. Who tightened up? The complaint is rejected, it is necessary to read and respond.
1. Why Putin mod? There is no sane information, and there are no clear answers. This is a useful candidate because he shows how Gus is easily able to call someone a mafia and refuse to vote on him instead of immediately recognizing that his assumption was untenable. To get this information, I did not even need a vote, I already received it.
2. No, the result will change, if one of them is a maniac, then the dead will not be able to shoot. Also, if one of them is a mafia and the other is not, the team’s capabilities will be reduced. And the most important thing was said above.
3 + 7. Sampaya. And if you do not make excuses that there was nothing to say for 2 days, and then fatigue, you can see that I did not refuse these suspicions, I just see that they have 0 support. Because the Mouse is also a candidate, in fact, since it protects this way. Or I was severely mistaken, and his assumption about peaceful Sampai is true.
4. You can change. I've already changed, seeing that the candidate is not relevant, because the question is inappropriate, and his wording is stupid.
5. Since I am definitely not a fan of draw, I will have to support too. In the end, the voices of the mafia in the last few minutes have not been canceled.
6. And if you change and the Mouse changes too, then there will be no more. But it is obvious that if he does not come in the next 15 minutes, the option will not make sense. I have already received everything I wanted from this offer - Gus announced the Mafia Roger, but I’m not ready to vote, and finds various reasons not to admit that he was wrong then, or that he is now fails.
Now answer you, and forget to speak up on what the peace you have given for Shiori is based.
I dint want do answer u
It’s not enough to find the mafia, the mafia still needs to be kicked out.
Confidence alone is not enough. I’m also sure in SamPay, and what, did it help you somehow? No way.
And how then do our confidence differ?
because my answer will be followed by ten more questions and I have to explain my answer to u. I've been proving my point all day. have u seen me adabbnon the idea that mousse is dangerous?I dint want do answer uWhy?
Questions are uncomfortable or are you afraid of responsibility for words?
Today, Putin's vote is not counted anyway.
It's a pity. The mouse considers Gus a possible neg, so he would vote in him then.
I would have told him ih I hadn't put all this aboveI dint want do answer u
Goose goes down to black with such approach.
If to change my vote - in Goose seems reasonable.It’s not enough to find the mafia, the mafia still needs to be kicked out.
Confidence alone is not enough. I’m also sure in SamPay, and what, did it help you somehow? No way.
And how then do our confidence differ?
How the hell are you sure about someone who never voted?
because my answer will be followed by ten more questions and I have to explain my answer to u. I've been proving my point all day. have u seen me adabbnon the idea that mousse is dangerous?That's right, if you give insufficiently detailed answers, then new questions will follow. This is the essence of the discussion, and there is nothing wrong with the discussion.
he himself wrote above that the GM wouldn't give him this rolebecause my answer will be followed by ten more questions and I have to explain my answer to u. I've been proving my point all day. have u seen me adabbnon the idea that mousse is dangerous?That's right, if you give insufficiently detailed answers, then new questions will follow. This is the essence of the discussion, and there is nothing wrong with the discussion.
I do not deny that he can be dangerous, I am not particularly sure that he is a mafia. Maybe still a maniac?
Because I believe that Dryusha is peaceful, and with an unambiguous vote in a peaceful one, it is typical for the mafia to avoid it.
This is an experience.
I already wrote this, and much earlier, to read it was not necessary to want to sleep.
Others are full offer, Messor and Shiori. But Shiori has a rather peaceful interrogation and attempt, the full offer will die, and Messor is considered peaceful for safety reasons.
Who is staying?
This I repeat for the inattentive.
I would have told him ih I hadn't put all this aboveAnd I would say that I did not raise suspicion above if they go against a player who is suspected by everyone who had at least something to say.
lol are u upset that u might get hanged? u don't think could double the votes of someone?
I am here, and I could well vote back to Julik if someone else voted against him. Otherwise, it’s safer for me to keep my vote on Putin-2.
To tell you the truth, I didn’t assume that someone was still intriguing here.
By the way, if with two votes in me and three in Putin, we will be executed both
Because I believe that Dryusha is peaceful, and with an unambiguous vote in a peaceful one, it is typical for the mafia to avoid it.
This is an experience.
I already wrote this, and much earlier, to read it was not necessary to want to sleep.
Others are full offer, Messor and Shiori. But Shiori has a rather peaceful interrogation and attempt, the full offer will die, and Messor is considered peaceful for safety reasons.
Who is staying?
This I repeat for the inattentive.
Your auto translator sometimes hard to read, so I do not follow sometimes.
What 's meant by "who is staying"?
because they're too lazy to thinkI am here, and I could well vote back to Julik if someone else voted against him. Otherwise, it’s safer for me to keep my vote on Putin-2.
To tell you the truth, I didn’t assume that someone was still intriguing here.
Oh my Gooseness, why you and Uranium started to vote for Julik who voted once—maybe was forced to vote—and then gone into nowhere? It makes more sense if you'll vote even not for Anon but for Putin. I don't understand, even if it done in spite - it still has no senseBy the way, if with two votes in me and three in Putin, we will be executed both
So... Tell me how it works. If you gather only two voice and Putin gathers three - then Putin will be executed. Or what do you mean? Killing? What?
I'm still waiting until someone finally tells me why they vote for Julik
So... Tell me how it works. If you gather only two voice and Putin gathers three - then Putin will be executed. Or what do you mean? Killing? What?
Putin mod.2 |
But this is not my choice, but Caramel.
So you're already know that I could be mistaken? It's almost strange.First of all, I monitor my mistakes.
Well, finally I can go to bed. Good night everybody.Hope for the death of Sampai. Or Julik.
he himself wrote above that the GM wouldn't give him this roleI certainly wouldn't give a role due to an avatar or any other profile info. But if random made such a coincidence, I wouldn't reroll the roles due to the same reasons either. In other words, there's no correlation between roles and profiles whatsoever.
But a draw is worse.It might be useful to reread the voting rules.
The debate, heated by dozens of cups of the very special Puer-o-Noid, exploded when Putin.mod2 pushed out by a pair of fellow citizens and brought to the edge of a marmite reservoir. A moment’s silence ensued and then, in a full, sonorous voice, the winner of the elections exclaimed: “See y'all partners!” He had scarcely uttered the last word when a heavy blow from Dmixn shook his body, but suddenly the victim grabbed Dmixn by the lap of his frock coat and in a second both were deleted from history, like, forever.
Puer-o-Noidp a r a n o i d (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qanF-91aJo)
"dozens of cups" can be a reference to one of the Griffin the Invisible, Alice “Smol Bean” Liddel and Ebenezer Scrooge.More likely that's reference to Griffin just because of puer. Not sure about Scrooge, cuz I think it was Bratuxa and he is already dead. And Alice sells moonshine, so I guess it was about Griffin
lap of his frock coat
Kara_Mel, sorry, but I always called Bratuxa Hyde-Jekyll and nothing else. Check out my posts.
, Try to enter "frock coat" and Scrooge (or Jeeves) in the search field so the search will be more effective.
In general, a frock coat is also Jeeves too ... But it seems that the shiori was ready to vote against any inactive. Yet there is uncertainty.
Who was accused - Putin-Mod of course, this is a hint to the side.
I feel some contradiction.
A field medic drone was spotted around the time and place of the murderSo Goose was protected, but mafia shot him with a headshot? Or he was a Sherlock Watson himself. If there was a headshot - a hint on a killer must be somewhere.
Let us pray, brothers, sisters, and others!I don't like others here, but it's too noticeable. Should be something more sophisticated.
dismal passagewayThis should be a hint to the role, but I see nothing yet. Griffin the Invisible if believe that he was working on the streets.
little book full of Buddhist poetryshould lead somewhere...
Smuggling and propagation of illicit substances and illegal services of all kinds are thriving;So Griffin the Invisible is alive then or was alive as it seems killing is the last action.
The Queen's Corporation is suffering through mangling financial losses while the shadow sector soars. Smuggling and propagation of illicit substances and illegal services of all kinds are thriving;Scrooge was dead as I thought. Financial losses. Mouse, you still reconsider your view on Bratuxa - Jekyl is alive and I'll be not much surprise if it is you.
The debate, heated by dozens of cups of the very special Puer-o-Noid, exploded when Putin.mod2 was pushed out by a pair of fellow citizensAnd that means that Putin was peaceful. Perfectly. Smart move. Yeah.
number of hacks seem to drop considerably.Either the Goose was Robin or Robin is dead and Orlando with his Mimicry which including block too. So among hackers only Jekyl is alive.
well, probably it was the one you should not eat! You know, guys, caries is expensive to cure nowadays!Nice comparision, considering the Goose's death. Now I have even more suspicion suspicions for Kara_mel
For all your sins thou shall be punished.Have no idea, maybe Goose's last words
My saint saaaaaaaint are you HEAR ME??? SAINT ghost DIDNt deal with myIt developed my anxiety, thanks
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I know, MafIa is still ALIVE. You m+us+t avenge me
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well, probably it was the one you should not eat! You know, guys, caries is expensive to cure nowadays!
Nice comparision, considering the Goose's death. Now I have even more suspicion suspicions for Kara_mel
Some believe that they had not died but just took some rest before revive and continue their triumphant march across and beyond the Earth. Let us pray, brothers, sisters, and others!
The Holy Goose, the one and only
I don't like others here, but it's too noticeable. Should be something more sophisticated.
everything might be decided much sooner than one might thinkThe end is soon?
even more
even more
Now that's what's interesting to here - spit out all your suspicions towards me as you have never named any before, go ahead.
ending with enmity between Cara and Goose from the start of this game
hereDamn autocorrection - hear, not here!
I'll use one interesting way of playing. Justice magic - Summon GM!
Where does the meaningful part of the newspaper starts and where it ends?
You can explain that it is not trueThe only thing I'm not sure about is importance of the last note
The end is soon?
Where does the meaningful part of the newspaper starts and where it ends?Oh, yes, I should've clarified that point right in the newspaper.
And when I saw this text about sweet killer, which probably analogy to your nickname, I thought so. You can explain that it is not true and I'll believe you, but you did not comment this moment, what should I tell you? That Goose's death was expectedly by the one who suspect him?
Also, I'm a little bit surprised, that mafia killed Goose. There was a conflict between him and Mouse. Now I see that it could be:
1. Way of protecting Mouse;
2. Way of showing Mouse as a black intentionally.
Both ways are not nice, though. Smart-play.
Eh? You should use this feature probably from the beginning of the game then. I think that all newspaper is neccesary. if you don't think so - you can actually tell me why and
Can a medical bot say that Goose was Orlando using the ability of a medic?It seems to me that someone tried to cure Goose, but was blocked and all that he supposed to do is watch Goose's death or something
"Some believe that they had not died but just took some rest before revive and continue their triumphant march across and beyond the Earth..." there are a great many legends about the heroes of antiquity, who supposedly did not die, but sleep in a magical sleep, so that one day, when their homeland is in danger, wake up and come to the rescue - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9So... what? Are you trying to say that Goose is alive or something? Eh?
Feathers, fragments of cheap katanas, a book with Buddhist poetry. Hippie. Counterculture. Sleep well, Alice. Hint, if I understand correctly - F. Oh, well, thank you for not V.What is the connection between feathers, katanas and book and F (https://panorama.pub/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/respekt.jpg)? I don't get this hint
So... what? Are you trying to say that Goose is alive or something? Eh?
What is the connection between feathers, katanas and book and F? I don't get this hint
To the most sensational news: The Holy Goose, the one and only, was found beside some dismal passageway. Headless. A field medic drone was spotted around the time and place of the murder. Some believe that they had not died but just took some rest before revive and continue their triumphant march across and beyond the Earth. Let us pray, brothers, sisters, and others!Modkill?
A somewhat less striking, but still impressive report was about one fellow identified as SamPie found dead in his bedroom. The lodging was vandalized, the floor was covered with feathers, pieces of cheap plastic katanas, a little book full of Buddhist poetry (with all the verses about samsara marked) and... was it his hair? At least he had not any hair, or any skin on his head, to be precise. I am not sure why I was asked to do it, but here I go: FThe second maniac's kill. And a hint is feathers & plastic? Or poetry? Role of the victim is Chris because of F meme for pay respect?
The last case made me actually laugh, sorry; I reckon the dramatic turn of events cost me some mental stability. This time it was Julik1221. While being out on duty (which is surprising), she called 112 with acute poisoning. But, even though the emergency didn't bother to arrive, somehow the situation turned out to be okay—that is until an ice crusher from the top shelf didn't crush her firm skull. This is a bitter loss for all of us. (Still funny, I'm deeply sorry).Another Mary's clean kill.
Desolation Through Solitude...Ok, I can see that Queen gang had some troubles and the balance is fragile.
the one and only, was found beside some dismal passageway. Headless.
found dead in his bedroom
While being out on duty (which is surprising)These are key phrases, probably (Sampai may have something further), but for some reason now I have little idea what they mean.
Modkill?
Another Mary's clean kill.
And here is a hint pointing to a maniac - F. For example, our dear Kara_Mel on her avatar has the character of the game God Eater Burst - Sakuya. And Sakuya belongs to Fenrir (Far East Branch). Here's a variant with "F". But I suspect that this may not be the only option with "F".All information you said about the character is correct. You even correctly said, that God Eater Burst - it's exactly where I saw Sakuya (however she mentioned in several later games/anime). Cannot say anything except that I'm not maniac - but it would be a bad explanation, right?
(a) give some tips, where to look to extract data;
(b) alter the paper itself a bit (highlight this, rephrase that, etc.) and give it another go.
Role of the victim is Chris because of F meme for pay respect?Yes, I like that, F a hint at the role, then Robin fits well.
The first one just can't be modkill. Gus was very active and julik wasn't. It makes no sense to get rid of Goose with modkill thenThe man shows that he is not aware of the victim of the mafia. So it’s more correct in this connection to think specifically said so or the truth does not know.
several packs of sedatives were found later thereaboutsYeah, that's easier, after all, the evidence is in place.
eathers, pieces of cheap plastic katanasrole
to much surprise, a little book full of Buddhist poetry (with all the verses about samsara marked)hint
A field medic drone was spotted around the time and place of the murder; several packs of sedatives were found later thereabouts
The first one just can't be modkill. Gus was very active and julik wasn't. It makes no sense to get rid of Goose with modkill thenYes, my fault.
The one thing I don't like - vote against SamPie, almost as if he knew Drusha's role.And I'm still waiting for an answer to yesterday. Surprisingly, there was a day to read, but why explain why you are not considering the chronology, really. I do not cry as long as the thought in your mind is considered unverified, this can only mean reluctance to study the comment.
And I'm still waiting for an answer to yesterday. Surprisingly, there was a day to read, but why explain why you are not considering the chronology, really.Which question I did not answer - please repeat and I'll do it right now.
Which question I did not answer - please repeat and I'll do it right now.
I asked for comment, why didn’t you take into account that my vote was earlier than the statement of um about the chain of modkills when you put forward some complaints about the purpose of the vote?
The second question was related to the first, what is your voice better if, after reading the announcement, you still chose a likely victim.
There seemed to be something else, but for now it was.
I would consider evidence only on the English wiki. There are hardly any exceptions to this plan.
(I could be wrong).
And yet, you have not commented on the theory that Gus could know something about the Mouse from the result of the night, for example, to be a blocker who blocked him on the third night, and we did not get the shot.It could be, but now all we can do - is guess. Why was Goose killed, but not e.g. Pastor?
Do this now. Simple answer format - will you give at least 30% to the fact that such or similar turn could be?
What do you mean?
1 kill 1 player each day and night- GM anonce
It could be, but now all we can do - is guess. Why was Goose killed, but not e.g. Pastor?And it’s Pasteur who is me and not me, or you or Shiori, do you consider a more likely murder?
What do you mean?Цитировать1 kill 1 player each day and night- GM anonce
And it’s Pasteur who is me and not me, or you or Shiori, do you consider a more likely murder?
he gaining more valuable time and his voting only confirmed it in my eyes.What, what, what did it confirm? What negative role do you have in him?
I've thought, that Pastor will say something to me, but it seems he left.Yes, you need to comment on everything that I write specifically for you. For example, your assessment of the lack of voice against Dryusha or the role of Putin-mod.
Uranium, do you have anything you would like to discuss with me now? If no - I'll be off to sleep.
he gaining more valuable time and his voting only confirmed it in my eyes.What, what, what did it confirm? What negative role do you have in him?
I asked this recently, and there was no answer.
You try to talk in full-role about keels like in a classic.
These are different types of mafia, in the current it is more important to get rid of roles, and only then, secondly, from players.
This does not mean that the logic of the classics is not applied at all. But its influence should not exceed the influence of hazard factors for the mafia of some roles over others.
There are 2 ways - intimidation on any player or Putin vote was not counted as it was done yesterday. Support the majority is not good reason.I've thought, that Pastor will say something to me, but it seems he left.Yes, you need to comment on everything that I write specifically for you. For example, your assessment of the lack of voice against Dryusha or the role of Putin-mod.
Uranium, do you have anything you would like to discuss with me now? If no - I'll be off to sleep.
If Dmixn is Scrooge, what do we have?
02. Dmixn - Scrooge
03. Putin mod.2 - Biggles, if trust statements about cowboys
04. Sue Sharlin - LIZ
06. Falcon hunting - ? with a probability of being mafia.
08. Drusha - Can Drusha be a Moreau the Artie? There was a reference to the meat bag and Moreau is The Bacon Rind. Also, there was no Intimidation/Authority today too.
09. Bratuxa777 - Alice “Smol Bean” Liddel or Griffin the Invisible as there no more business-related roles.
, Hmm ... I find only one way of interpreting interview questions in which Shiori could be a maniac - if the second question is considered as "do you have protection?" True, I must say that I do not recall the use of such a variant of the question. Speaking simply, very, very simply, the task of the reporter is to ask the question "are you not a city dweller?" in three different ways. And questions about the availability of protection do not help too much in this task.I said several times during the first night - there are things that can be done now. That is, to come up with questions for the journalist, because he can easily be a beginner who does not imagine what to ask and why.
But for me, in any case, the scene of a conversation between Oliver Twist and the constable seems much more natural than participation in a similar scene by Sweeney Todd. I can, of course, be mistaken.
By the way, I should note that your link to a quote with opium casts more suspicion on Julik1221 than on Pastor - "Julie, or the New Heloise" by Jean-Jacques Rousseau and then "Juliette" by Marquis de Sade. The funniest thing is that in my own coordinate system, Julik cannot be Poppins, and it drives me a little crazy. Coincidence, damn coincidence.
If Mouse is black - Pastor is more dangerous, than Goose. Goose lack reasoning and could be easily painted as black. Choosing between Mouse and Goose I would highly likely vote Goose out at the next voting. So from that perspective Pastor is more dangerous.
It could be, but now all we can do - is guess. Why was Goose killed, but not e.g. Pastor?I especially remember the Mouse's arguments like "No-no, I'm definitely not a maniac!" or something and his agreement with his hanging, which probably would avert suspicions about his involvement to mafia. If everyone thinks that killing someone with whom you're openly in conflict is dangerous and illogical, someone will use universal statement. This version is also possible, don't avoid it. And don't forget about redirections - maybe, get rid of me would be the best option to intimidate the Goose (especially considering that I was not suspected), but alas!
By the way, I should note that your link to a quote with opium casts more suspicion on Julik1221 than on Pastor - "Julie, or the New Heloise" by Jean-Jacques Rousseau and then "Juliette" by Marquis de Sade. The funniest thing is that in my own coordinate system, Julik cannot be Poppins, and it drives me a little crazy. Coincidence, damn coincidence.
There are 2 ways - intimidation on any player or Putin vote was not counted as it was done yesterday. Support the majority is not good reason.Wrong. If you look at Julik's messages, you will see in him a voice that was against Dryusha and was not counted.
Perhaps you bad in reading - here were my assessmentsAnd why are you proud that you started voting against the one you think is peaceful now, and reproach me with the fact that I was dissatisfied with this, but do not appreciate the fact that my reasons are quite visible to myself?
If Mouse is black - Pastor is more dangerous, than Goose. Goose lack reasoning and could be easily painted as black. Choosing between Mouse and Goose I would highly likely vote Goose out at the next voting. So from that perspective Pastor is more dangerous.
I don't get anything. If you say that probably Mouse is black, why should I be more dangerous than mafia? - Considering the fact that you had no suspicions about me yesterday. Don't you forget about your previous suspicios about Mouse's behavior? Yesterday you clearly said that you would see how everything will go and maybe support someone's point of view, but you didn't - because for some reason you changed your mind and voted for Putin, who more likely was peaceful. It seems to me that your "conflict" and "suspicions" to Mouse was fake, regarding to zero reaction from himIt could be, but now all we can do - is guess. Why was Goose killed, but not e.g. Pastor?I especially remember the Mouse's arguments like "No-no, I'm definitely not a maniac!" or something and his agreement with his hanging, which probably would avert suspicions about his involvement to mafia. If everyone thinks that killing someone with whom you're openly in conflict is dangerous and illogical, someone will use universal statement. This version is also possible, don't avoid it. And don't forget about redirections - maybe, get rid of me would be the best option to intimidate the Goose (especially considering that I was not suspected), but alas!
I myself can play against either of them, but as I wrote - more likely against Goose as he had a lack of reasoning throughout the game.Now tell me, can I be a mafia at all if I asked for less to suspect Goose?
Perhaps you bad in reading - here were my assessmentsAnd why are you proud that you started voting against the one you think is peaceful now, and reproach me with the fact that I was dissatisfied with this, but do not appreciate the fact that my reasons are quite visible to myself?
I myself can play against either of them, but as I wrote - more likely against Goose as he had a lack of reasoning throughout the game.Now tell me, can I be a mafia at all if I asked for less to suspect Goose?
For others, this is still possible, because they do not know you.
But if you know yourself peaceful, then tell at least some sense of this action for the mafia?
Should I behave like "OMG I have mistaken, so sorry, that I didn't listen to you, Uranium. Now I will follow your lead, sir"?The question is, how much do you want to see now that I definitely had at least small, but reasons to reason in Putin's favor?
No, I should not. If Putin wasn't lynched yesterday - probably I would go against him today too. I have crossed out one of the suspects in my list. Negative result is a result too.
, you should ask Kara_mel - why she first decided that the clue points to you, and then she began to completely ignore her own find, when it turned out that it is much clearer points to another player(Julik1221).I'm writing via smartphone and it's not easy to be quick and write everything. I'm answering to things I can without going to the other web pages. I cannot check your pointings in MY clue.
Okay, such a solution does not fit into MY coordinate system, but for other players it should be very logical. So why?
My brains quietly slide down somewhere, so it's better to take a horizontal position.
Of course knowing, that player X is not mafia - you can find reasoning to say not to suspect him. It's too straightforward, but still can be possible. It's common in classic.The question is not about that. It is one thing to consider something yourself - and another to extinguish a conflict.
And tell me - why did I offered new voting scheme to make day lynching possible without draws?
Of course you have your point of view, but you haven't done good job in making others to accept it. You so keen on me - why didn't you persuade others to change it - e.g. Pastor/Goose?Should I behave like "OMG I have mistaken, so sorry, that I didn't listen to you, Uranium. Now I will follow your lead, sir"?The question is, how much do you want to see now that I definitely had at least small, but reasons to reason in Putin's favor?
No, I should not. If Putin wasn't lynched yesterday - probably I would go against him today too. I have crossed out one of the suspects in my list. Negative result is a result too.
And not that they are not enough to remove suspicions.
That is, the task is not to change your worldview, but to see that mine is different, and to accept that such an approach is also possible, and therefore measure it not by its own standards.
Of course you have your point of view, but you haven't done good job in making others to accept it. You so keen on me - why didn't you persuade others to change it - e.g. Pastor/Goose?Let the pastor himself tell why he was not convinced, I also turned to him. Another thing is that I didn’t really imagine what kind of vote I should offer him, besides what it already was.
Of course knowing, that player X is not mafia - you can find reasoning to say not to suspect him. It's too straightforward, but still can be possible. It's common in classic.The question is not about that. It is one thing to consider something yourself - and another to extinguish a conflict.
And tell me - why did I offered new voting scheme to make day lynching possible without draws?
You just don’t know that I offered the same thing, because I don’t think that my image allows me to voice such suggestions in the subject for the sake of peace points. Actually, I could offer this to the mafia, but the question is how it might look. In general, your move is not so significant for me as the first impression of a desire to participate in the questionnaire.
And I have to add that if the murder was committed by Julik, then GameMaster could use only the player’s nickname (for the lack of everything else) to compile a clue on the murder. That's why all of these Julie and Juliette get so weighty and at the same time infuriate me)It’s interesting who you considered him yesterday and the day before, if today Poppins (a possible option, in general, just too optimistic) is not suitable.
Because you will certainly support Goose against Mouse' so killing you is more logical. I myself can play against either of them, but as I wrote - more likely against Goose as he had a lack of reasoning throughout the game.Actually, I don't get to whom I should be dangerous. Anyway, I considered this as if I was dangerous for you. If it means the danger to Mouse, well, then I already said that my death will intimidate the Goose.
Also - killing inactive Putin who was a mafia to me or active Mouse, who can also be mafia? Of course Putin.So it means you ignored the fact that among active players there may be mafia
No, I should not. If Putin wasn't lynched yesterday - probably I would go against him today too.and you would continue to chase inactive player even the next day, regarding to possible victims?
Let the pastor himself tell why he was not convinced, I also turned to himPutin's activity was strange, but Kara_Mel did not take it into account. He could vote against the Goose just because he began to blame him. That's all. It was the same situation when Mouse blamed Drusha and then Drusha voted against him. And it seemed to me that vote against him is useless, and as I see now - it was so.
Conflicts are the source of info in good games. Someone has to support one, while the other - other side. It's how I've always played.And I always believed that the conflict between the nemafia is the basis of the black victory, and such events should be gently cultivated, because they ensure victory. As long as the urban sorted out among themselves - they do not touch you.
Putin's activity was strange, but Kara_Mel did not take it into account. He could vote against the Goose just because he began to blame him. That's all. It was the same situation when Mouse blamed Drusha and then Drusha voted against him. And it seemed to me that vote against him is useless, and as I see now - it was so.What did you not like about Sampai and Julik? I didn’t ask Putin, it’s easy to notice.
I'm going to sleep now. If you have any question to me - please make a list with numbering 1,2,3 etc. and write in bold To KaraMel. I'll reply when I'll wake up and deal with studies.1. Make your list of everything that everything (after today) has remained questionable in my actions, and this will make sense. Or the phrase - there are no more complaints.
What did you not like about Sampai and Julik? I didn’t ask Putin, it’s easy to notice.
It’s interesting who you considered him yesterday and the day before, if today Poppins (a possible option, in general, just too optimistic) is not suitable.
Well, I have named so many possible roles for other players that now there are not many options left for my own role.This is the only thing that keeps me from the belief that you need to be kicked out. Orlando also has some kind of information, after all, and peaceful loners usually rank themselves in the city.
Actually, I don't get to whom I should be dangerous. Anyway, I considered this as if I was dangerous for you. If it means the danger to Mouse, well, then I already said that my death will intimidate the Goose.If Mouse is black - your possible vote in Mouse to support Goose at the next voting. Not mine or even Uranium, as they can be turned against Goose, but yours - not likely.
So it means you ignored the fact that among active players there may be mafia
and you would continue to chase inactive player even the next day, regarding to possible victims?My suspicions wouldn't fade away in a blink of an eye, you know. And his behaviour was only the catalyst for such thoughts, considering the fact, that he is the last one to be kicked out.
You said that is easier to identify acitve players. So it's easier to get rid of them, but you suspected Putin.
And I always believed that the conflict between the nemafia is the basis of the black victory, and such events should be gently cultivated, because they ensure victory. As long as the urban sorted out among themselves - they do not touch you.
1. Make your list of everything that everything (after today) has remained questionable in my actions, and this will make sense. Or the phrase - there are no more complaints.
By the way, I should note that your link to a quote with opium casts more suspicion on Julik1221 than on Pastor - "Julie, or the New Heloise" by Jean-Jacques Rousseau and then "Juliette" by Marquis de Sade. The funniest thing is that in my own coordinate system, Julik cannot be Poppins, and it drives me a little crazy. Coincidence, damn coincidence.
I hope we have a full time limitYou have, yes.
01. pastor chivay ------------------------ Griffin. Excluding other roles.
Mouse, share the exclusion method. You have some new, progressive one that allows you to ignore direct rejections for defining the role of the murdered.
More likely that's reference to Griffin just because of puer. Not sure about Scrooge, cuz I think it was Bratuxa and he is already dead. And Alice sells moonshine, so I guess it was about Griffin
09. Bratuxa777 --------------------------- Jekyll Hyde. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.
SamPie -------------------------------- Alice (although with the definition of a book of poetry as evidence I am less sure about this but cheap katana with feathers are still extremely close to counterculture)>
even death of a notorious feathery cult leader is not an obstacle for an ever-growing influence of the nightclub
InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.So you consider inactive player as Mary Poppins who didn't even try to justify himself and appear since 17th april, especially considering the victims, whose number has not changed?
12. InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.
10. Julik1221 ----------------------------- MoreauAnother grandmaster conclusion.
My dear ones, would you be so kind as to lay out your complete sheets of player roles. Of course, my thoughts alone are not able to determine the roles of all players for sure. But if other players make efforts to do this, then together we will find the truth. For sure.I said that I thought it was necessary, and maybe at some point I will supplement it. For example, you can criticize the role of Oliver for a player who had 2 assassinations in the game, but killed GM
1. He made a huge hint on his role. I'm not fully sure, but it somehow contradicts with rules about "roles info disclosure". And he is still alive and well.
You know what I don't like in Mouse's big analysis.you can find this very ousted role.
1. He made a huge hint on his role. I'm not fully sure, but it somehow contradicts with rules about "roles info disclosure". And he is still alive and well.
2. The role Mouse pointed on himself - is one of those, which is possible for the mafia to know (with successful block). If it was any of the other roles - it would be risky to do so - doubling could appear, but this role is the safe one if mafia knows that it's been kicked out.
In classics, an autopsy is considered true, as long as there is no alternative, I think you know that.
There is an alternative. If Hyde checked Marple - mafia knows player's role. If Marple was kicked out already - it's safe to use this role for the mafia. The very same goes for Sherlock.The roles of the dead can be called.
The roles of the dead can be called.
Specify who this player is (nickname).
Without such a definition, an attack is untenable.
Dmixn shook his body, but suddenly the victim grabbed Dmixn by the lap of his frock coat and in a second both were deleted from history, like, forever.
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It would be very bold to say that Miss Marple wore a frock coat. Or the fact that the fragile old woman had a very sonorous voice, and the cowboy vocabulary is not in her style either.
The debate, heated by dozens of cups of the very special Puer-o-Noid, exploded when Putin.mod2 was pushed out by a pair of fellow citizens and brought to the edge of a marmite reservoir. A moment’s silence ensued and then, in a full, sonorous voice, the winner of the elections exclaimed: “See y'all partners!” He had scarcely uttered the last word when a heavy blow from Dmixn shook his body, but suddenly the victim grabbed Dmixn by the lap of his frock coat and in a second both were deleted from history, like, forever.
worse than that, even death of a notorious feathery cult leader is not an obstacle for an ever-growing influence of the you-know-which nightclubWhat interesting details can be seen if Marple can wear a frock coat.
worse than that, even death of a notorious feathery cult leader is not an obstacle for an ever-growing influence of the you-know-which nightclub
What interesting details can be seen if Marple can wear a frock coat.
Uranium235, The same question is for you. Why on earth would Miss Marple pound someone, this is absolutely not her behavior. If you find somewhere that Jane Marple was a Mexican luchador in her youth, then I would gladly vote against myself.
, The same question is for you. Why on earth would Miss Marple pound someone, this is absolutely not her behavior. If you find somewhere that Jane Marple was a Mexican luchador in her youth, then I would gladly vote against myself.
"Mrs. Price Ridley, Miss Wetherby, Miss Hartnell, and that terrible Miss Marple."
"I rather like Miss Marple," I said. "She has, at least, a sense of humour."
"She's the worst cat in the village," said Griselda. "And she always knows every single thing that happens - and draws the worst inferences from it."
Miss Marple is a white-haired old lady with a gentle, appealing manner - Miss Wetherby is a mixture of vinegar and gush. Of the two Miss Marple is much the more dangerous.
10. Julik1221 -?Oliver, or tell me how he escaped death twice, on the first night and yesterday.
1. Make your list of everything that everything (after today) has remained questionable in my actions, and this will make sense. Or the phrase - there are no more complaints.
Perhaps we just have a different vision on the same problems. Matter of experience.
If your hint is correct - I have no more questions. For now.
Oliver, or tell me how he escaped death twice, on the first night and yesterday.
I suggested more interesting topics - with Oliver's modkill
He escaped death once. Second time he was modkilled.
Actually, he escaped death twice. He was poisoned and somehow survived, but THEN he was modkilled
And now I rather see Jeeves in Uranium, given how many times he mentioned Julik1221 in his answers.You continue to issue facts against all logic.
And now I rather see Jeeves in Uranium, given how many times he mentioned Julik1221 in his answers.
You continue to issue facts against all logic.
In your opinion, is it normal for one member of the urban bunch to vote another?
AnonyMouse |
And dead silence in the topic. Less than 24 hours we have, but it's too early to jump out of discussions.
Mafia in descending order of probability for me now: Mouse -> Pastor -> Uranuim -> Shiori
Todd in descending order of probability: Shiori -> Uranium -> Mouse -> Pastor
If such mumbling will continue - I have nothing but to break this silence with a vote.
That's interesting to see myself among—even close to—mafia, considering the fact that I did not see any suspections and some kind of arguments too today. Can you explain?
Too many small and large mistakes in a short period of time + a reckless hint.
And dead silence in the topic. Less than 24 hours we have, but it's too early to jump out of discussions.What are these lists.
Mafia in descending order of probability for me now: Mouse -> Pastor -> Uranuim -> Shiori
Todd in descending order of probability: Shiori -> Uranium -> Mouse -> Pastor
If such mumbling will continue - I have nothing but to break this silence with a vote.
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Do you understand that for a city dweller your manner of playing at this stage is extremely irresponsible? If you declare that "InVictA - NOT Todd / Poppins", then you confirm that at least as far as your role is concerned, I have not made a mistake. For mafiosi, my guess is not so simple. It’s another matter if Hyde came to you and didn’t come with a block. Do you think Hyde is a Falcon? Did he come to you?
Of course, the last question does not require an answer in the topic. Simply, if Hyde / Sokol did not come to you, then you must admit that as a mafia it would be very difficult for me to make guesses about you.
And dead silence in the topic. Less than 24 hours we have, but it's too early to jump out of discussions.What are these lists.
Mafia in descending order of probability for me now: Mouse -> Pastor -> Uranuim -> Shiori
Todd in descending order of probability: Shiori -> Uranium -> Mouse -> Pastor
If such mumbling will continue - I have nothing but to break this silence with a vote.
You have no complaints against me, why am I not in last place in this case?
Speak what exactly allows me to call someone other than the city.
Armchair and rigid face - strongly associated with Miss Marple for me. Or Biggles but he has veteran ability.
Victim was found near desktop, so it could be Miss Marple again, but she has laptop, not desktop, or Chris. Also Scrooge and Jekyll can match.We recline Marple again.
Role of the victim is Chris because of F meme for pay respect?Subtract Robin.
Hard to say about other roles of victims. The firm skull of Julik - maybe for Jeeves with his in-brain Cybernet implant?Subtract Jeeves. We subtract Oliver, too, if you count Julik not Jeeves, because there will not be a member of the city bunch to misinform the corpse.
And the Goose looks like a divine person. He can be Orlando if recall the plot of the book.Subtract Orlando (often, and in this case, I still agree with the description).
So I think that Sherlock's curing is the more likely version.Because if Shiori Sherlock, the move to Julik is illogical, there were a sufficient number of more active goals that need stronger treatment, even if you didn’t want to give it to yourself.
The thing, that you're still alive, while you are definitely the most strongest and experience in the game. But it would be stupid to ask you "Why do you still alive?". So it's a matter that has nothing with questions to you, but to the game overall.The Mafia and the maniac didn’t do so many murders so that such reasoning made sense.
You were scared, that I'll tell, that you're trying to get me modkilled?
On Alice and Jvisa (+ Orlando)Alice, Jeevce (+Oliver)*
The Mafia and the maniac didn’t do so many murders so that such reasoning made sense.
With the same success, this can be applied to you. A chain of modkills for inactivity knocked down the natural order of mortality when the most peaceful come out first.
I'm afraid of what? Lose an educational game? There is no concept of losing in a training game, my dear. I'm just trying to understand whether you are still a stubborn citizen or whether you belong to the mafia.
Given that at the end of today we will lose two players (if Invicta is not hanged), the game will go into an endgame with four players. If Invicta is a city, then voting against another citizen is equal to a city loss. Therefore, I am careful and do not understand why you are so careless if you are a city dweller.
Ebenezer scrooge
jekyll001 / xXxhydexXx
Orlando - from a certain point of view
Christopher Robin - also from a certain point of view
Reginald jeeves
Liz bennet
So, LIZ Bennet to ask herself is very pro way of playing, so discarding her role - 2 possible roles for him if he is the town and answered the truth.
To spend protection on an inactive player - is the most reckless decision I've heard. There are around 7 active players who could have used this protection, while this Julik is just an actionless dummy and his life means nothing right now.Since I still think it is likely that this is about Oliver, Jeeves could not say so.
I have no idea about cowboys - do not know what they are saying, but - "dozens of cups" can be a reference to one of the Griffin the Invisible, Alice “Smol Bean” Liddel and Ebenezer Scrooge.Passing Alice and Griffin
03. Putin mod.2 - Biggles, if trust statements about cowboysWe pass Beagle, Liz left earlier, but there is still confirmation.
02. Dmixn - Marpleminus marple
05. l10ha -? - Sherlock or Orlandominus sherlock and orlando (with the condition, but it is, as before, almost a fact).
The pastor hid, Shiori finally fell into a lethargic dream, Kara_mel does not demonstrate urban behavior.
Perhaps now the most obvious city dweller is Uranium. Uranium, I think I will vote the same as you.
This time I'm not doing very well with clues, so I will bet on the city dweller.
Uranium, I'll just warn you with one thing - when there are 2 roles in my analysis - it doesn't mean, that doubt. Sometimes it was written that way by me on purpose.Strong statement.
Alice and Griffin from the city remained. Now you can study the survey again.
Doesn’t know those who shoot - not always true.
Both have neither protection nor weapons - not always true.
So, a lie should be on the third question. If stalking people is an opportunity to check, then there is no lie (= true) only for Alice.
The problem with protection still remains, because in Alice's case it is external. Either Sherlock was alive (by the way, it’s completely impossible to throw him out by the way, according to a survey with a lie on a weapon, he is suitable, he can be suitable for protection, if you imagine that for some reason Shiori needed to treat an inactive), or something marginal.
I am waiting for corrections in reasoning. It is difficult to refute Oliver in the form of Julik, the description about it is surprising that it worked perfectly for him. And that means you have to have Sherlock alive on the third night to save Shiori-Alice. Or Shiori Todd. There are two basic options left.
It has nothing to do with my role. As Invictia was absent during the night - he is not the one, who ordered kill. He can be Hyde, if there are 2 mafia in the game, but that does not matter as he will be kicked out.
at newspaper still mentioned multiply hacks. Today hacks much decreased and it was mentioned too. So don't you think that Jekyll is alive and probably Robin is dead?Invicta was offline since 17th april, but number of hacks decreased only after SamPie's and Goose's deaths. It was decreased, not disappeared
Simply, if Hyde / Sokol did not come to you, then you must admit that as a mafia it would be very difficult for me to make guesses about you.
Alice has protection, even considering the fact that it could turns against her. And Alice can know someone with homicidal tendensions if she uses Rabbit Hole. Griffin's knowledge about homicidal tendensions is very doubtful. Not sure he has protection as Alice (she can save herself with her second skill) only external. Or if he is lucky and offers some tea to his possible killer, but chances is low, and I'm not sure that he considering this possible way. Stalking people can considering as offers to tea to someone (regarding to Griffin's description too) thenI do not understand now what it was.
Okay, do you agree with my version of Oliver?I can agree with assuming Julik was Oliver.
Do you allow Shiori to be a city?Well, perhaps, he can be.
Well, perhaps, he can be.If it is possible, do you agree that an analysis of his exceptions does not allow us to come up with anything but Alice in that case?
He was a target to kill.
If he was protected by Sherlock - it's unclear who he is.
Todd has 2 protections, so it can be the case and it almost fits the interview, but 3rd question is unclear.
Poppins too has one protection, but interview contradicts with it.
I can agree with assuming Julik was Oliver.If we consider that this is true, then which of those killed in theory could be Jeeves? All options.
And what do you mean when you say that Alice has protection? A quote from the roles file, please, to get around the language barrier as reliably as possible.
And in any case, the questions suggest the facts that are described in the roles, and not speculation as it would be possible, if you guess something there, apply the action. Under there is protection, only a phrase can survive (survives death at night or the like).
o me Shiori is Griffin now, I explained why above. And cuz of fact that Shiori was a victim. Mouse's behavior is suspicious, considering his previous fact mistakes and behavior few days ago. He is rather maniac, because it's in his interests: stay close to city and hang the mafia, and then kill the rest of survivalists. He stays aside and denies that he fears to lose, pretends he has nothing to lose.You speak Shiori city, Mouse maniac.
"– Do you have any gizmos to stand up for yourself?" means not only protection, but block, (Alice's action is block, so yeah, she can protect herself. And Griffin's action is offer, not block) and if here's a chance that she can block somebody, then it may be considered as >stand-up-for-yourself.
If it is possible, do you agree that an analysis of his exceptions does not allow us to come up with anything but Alice in that case?If to trust his quotes - yes. Other way Robin is a fine option too.
If we consider that this is true, then which of those killed in theory could be Jeeves? All options.No, not Putin mod. SamPie maybe, hard to tell, but Buddhist poetry is not commoners readings. Jeeves knew much about high society.
My option is Putin-Mod, if you have a different vision, I would like to know him.
Who is the mafia? I think that CaramelAnd that's exactly why I've decided not to change my vote to Julik to support you, which had to be killed anyway, but made my position shattered with voting against Putin. Don't you think, that it's too blunt move for a mafia?
No, not Putin mod. SamPie maybe, hard to tell, but Buddhist poetry is not commoners readings. Jeeves knew much about high society.
and, to much surprise, a little book full of Buddhist poetry (with all the verses about samsara marked)
And that's exactly why I've decided not to change my vote to Julik to support you, which had to be killed anyway, but made my position shattered with voting against Putin. Don't you think, that it's too blunt move for a mafia?I evaluate the position of the Pastor now, this is not my conclusion.
No, not Putin mod. SamPie maybe, hard to tell, but Buddhist poetry is not commoners readings. Jeeves knew much about high society.Buddhist readings are not a hint of a role.
And how do you put Shiori Robin if he directly called SamPai a possible Chris (= Christopher Robin)?I see tactic, where someone can intentionally cross his role out and wait for someone to take it. I don't know if it's applicable here, but I saw such things.
If we talk about Shiori, I must say that initially having made a positive impression, he subsequently showed ever decreasing activity, and his conclusions became increasingly superficial and sloppy.Yes, because I was overloaded by masses of text in topic. Sorry for this.
Buddhist readings are not a hint of a role.
This is evidence on a maniac.
If you read the explanations on how to study the newspaper, then the evidence is surprising, out of place, while the usual environment indicates the role of the victim.
Reread again the edited version of the newspaper (this point has been fixed).
I see tactic, where someone can intentionally cross his role out and wait for someone to take it. I don't know if it's applicable here, but I saw such things.It seems to me that you are now openly pulling up non-existent opportunities. Yes, and a survey for Robin is difficult to sum up, he has neither protection, nor weapons, nor knowledge of the mafia. That is a lie to the third question, so formulate it first.
And finally, Caramel, do you agree that the Pastor is now carrying some rubbish, evaluating the Shiori poll as possible for Griffin?
Yup, my bad. Then I do not have any other reasoning for now. If I'll have something - I'll mention, but now I have nothing, but to agree.What exactly will agree?
Who is the mafia? I think that Caramel, but suddenly there are some suspicions against me, we can disperse now or admit that there is nothing to say against me, and there are no options left besides the city.Well, it's hard to choose between you and Cara, because of your activity and analysis of each player. Analyzing each player is a good move to avoid attention from yourself. But since my lil suspects Cara's behavior became strange, and now she answers with simple statements. About you I have nothing to say, because your statements don't change and behavior too.
By the way, Pastor, do you repeat all 3 questions again? Your interpretation.For now I see another picture of all this
I don't think, that Shiori can be Griffin.
Yup, my bad. Then I do not have any other reasoning for now. If I'll have something - I'll mention, but now I have nothing, but to agree.What exactly will agree?
I made quite a few statements, now it is not clear which one you eventually supported.
For example, the inability to put Jeeves dead may mean that he is alive, that’s all.
Then explain why.If he is Grififn, then:
and now she answers with simple statementsBut of course, I have time during a daytime to write big poems. No, I don't have. I freed yesterday evening for that, but no one was here. Oh, wait. You were but in a different topic.
I'm confused a bit now, maybe there's some mistake, but I see this situation like this rnThat's exactly what I think that until you get into a decent version, you can’t talk about Shiori except Alice.
I'm still waiting for an explanation about the Pastor. You put it on the list of mafia and maniacs as the least likely negative. And what is it, it turns out, you could not even come up with a peaceful role for him?
I do not believe.
That's a hard question. Firstly Pastor was LIZ (before Sue was killed), then I thought of him as a Jeeves/Oliver due to his relation with Goose, but it's too was a fake it seems.2 Alice, Shiori and Pastor.
Now if Pastor calling Shiori as a Griffin - then out of all options - Alice.
So I think that we should hang Invicta. Or to risk hazardously in choosing between Anon and Cara-chan.InVictA will be modkilled for inactivity, we don't even need to hang them. We have to choose then
Or to risk hazardously in choosing between Anon and Cara-chan.
In game: 2 mafs, Todd, Oliver, Alice, Griffin.Do you see the same as me?
Dmixn * mod = Marple
InVictA will be modkilled for inactivity, we don't even need to hang them. We have to choose thenFully correct, have to choose.
If you agree with Dmixn as a Marple, then Mouse is given a false hint to his role as he basically called himself Marple.You still have 2 Alice, I'm waiting for a conclusion soon. And without ridiculous discussions about a special cut-off, please.
2 Alice, Shiori and Pastor.
Are you sure everything is fine in position, do not want to move anything?
Because seriously talking about cutting off your role in order to lure someone out there is absurd. It turns out, even if this opportunity really exists, you have it almost the main version of the development of events.
I would not say that the Pastor was confident in the attempt on Oliver, because he knew about it (general results with Jeeves).
Pastor's probability of being Alice arose after I told, that I agree, that Shiori can be a town player. With current change of roles - Shiori is back to Todd.What are the chances that dmksin is not marple, but someone else, for example, Scrooge or Sherlock?
But I'll not write role-matching table as it's opportunity to be modkilled for role-knowing disclosure.We can do without this, of course.
We can have two mafa with mana, and we can be three townspeople - you, me and Invicta. In this case, whom should I convince?The maniac is that it is time to get rid of the mafia, otherwise he too will lose even with the defenses.
What are the chances that dmksin is not marple, but someone else, for example, Scrooge or Sherlock?
As stated in one book, we compare two probabilities that add up to 100%: Marple and non Marple.
If somehow Dmixn is not Marple (but I don't believe in it) - then Mouse is not lying and seems to be a real Marple.You never named the exact probability.
Why do I not believe you might ask me. I can explain - even though it's an educational game - if everyone would do such analysis (with a direct hint) - the game is close to the end. No point in the mafia, then - just like giving screenshot with your role.
As a host - I saw such scenarios and do not tolerate them at all. And that's answer the question to me - why Mouse is alive right now after such move.
But are there really two of them?
I can’t be sure. But to spend five hours convincing two possible mafiosi to vote in favor of the city ... Unfortunately I am not Wolf Messing. However, if we consider that there is a city dweller in the Kara_mel and pastor pair, then I would rather see a pastor as a city dweller.But Shiori is not necessary to convince?
why Mouse is alive right now after such move.
But Shiori is not necessary to convince?
You never named the exact probability.
50:50? 80:20?
I already said why. Because I submitted my text to the GM review.Oh, but that's only words, you know. Of course, you may have submitted, but it says nothing about your role.
Maybe because I do not know exact probability? I can only say, that more than 50% for Mouse is not Marple and less than 50%, that he is Marple.Tell me more precisely. Over 50 is 51? Or 75? Or 99?
Tell me more precisely. Over 50 is 51? Or 75? Or 99?
85 over 15, I'm almost 100% sure about the hint.What is the probability that Shiori Todd?
Tell me more precisely. Over 50 is 51? Or 75? Or 99?
85 over 15, I'm almost 100% sure about the hint.
I'm almost 100% sure about the hint.
What is the probability that Shiori Todd?65% is Todd
You don’t even suspect how funny it sounds. How often it happens that gorgeous, brilliant and witty (as we think of them) hint decisions turn out to be simple coincidences.
20% is the townNor can you come up with a peaceful role.
If you agree with Dmixn as a Marple, then Mouse is given a false hint to his role as he basically called himself Marple.Well, and?
Well, and?I think this means that you deliberately did not delve into the subject matter.
Please explain how Julik escaped death 2 times (on the 1st night today) if he is not Oliver.Def + block of killer?
Tell me my chances of being Todd, it's interesting to compare.30%, not much. You're trying to say, that you're Todd in last posts, including asking chances for you. So, you trying to say to Mouse, that you're the one who needed to be convinced?
If you agree with Dmixn as a Marple, then Mouse is given a false hint to his role as he basically called himself Marple.Well, and?
First - those who left us.
02. Dmixn ---------------------------------Ebenezer Scrooge. Because both a frock coat and bad manners (or simply hostility towards Biggles).
03. Putin mod.2 ---------------------------Biggles. Because of the cowboy vocabulary.
04. Sue Sharlin ----------------------------LIZ. Due to the description of death and termination of interviews.
05. l10ha ----------------------------------Orlando. Because of the mention of sleeping but alive (Roland and Charlemagne). And also because of the mention of the medical bot after the execution of the alleged Sherlock. For Orlando, a completely possible strategy is to self-medicate, because the main thing for him is to live to the end.
06. Falcon hunting ------------------------ Presumably Jeeves, discarding most roles. Plus an explosion from a lightning strike - Jeeves had cyber implants, maybe they caused the explosion.
08. Drusha ------------------------------ Sherlock. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.
09. Bratuxa777 --------------------------- Jekyll Hyde. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.
10. Julik1221 ----------------------------- Moreau - in the film "Dr. Moreau's Island", there was a scene in which Moreau had a head there was an ice bucket for cooling. And Julik1221 died, dropping on itself a machine for chopping ice.
https://dtf.ru/cinema/63683-ostrov-doktora-moro-slozhnaya-sudba-potencialnogo-shedevra
11. SamPie -------------------------------- Alice (although with the definition of a book of poetry as evidence I am less sure about this but cheap katana with feathers are still extremely close to counterculture)Still alive.
01. pastor chivay ------------------------ Griffin. Excluding other roles.
07. shiori ------------------------------- Oliver (from the interview, although there are some doubts).
12. InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.
13. Kara_Mel ----------------------------- Robin (according to my assumptions). Robin does not have many sources of information, he can only cut off those who he blocked and those who came to him on even days as killers of the night. Thus, if I did not come to Kara_Mel on even days and was not blocked by her, then her suspicion of me remained.
14. Anony-mouse --------------------------If someone is not a mafia (of which I have already named all the members), then why not a single attack from the mafia was committed against him, despite the fact that this someone was actively called a maniac? But is there such a role (among those remaining) that the mafiosi could consider safe for themselves?
15. Uranium235 ------------------------- Todd. Very unexpected for me. And I couldn’t properly attach the evidence. But remember that Uranium said that he promised GameMaster to play at half strength and be a mentor. Perhaps this explains why the maniac was so kind to the players so far that only inactive players became his victims?
I cannot be completely sure that I was not mistaken in anything. But I think that as an food for thought for the rest of the players, my analysis is quite suitable.
Break all claims against you
06. Falcon hunting -- ? - perhaps Hyde
08. Drusha -- Moreau the Artie
09. Bratuxa777 -- Scrooge
Break all claims against you
Her accusations against me are illogical at first. She accused me of making mistakes.
Kara_mel, have you imagined yourself a Lady Perfection?
Further, she accused me of the fact that for the proposed version of the analysis, I would have to be subjected to modkill if I gave a hint of my real role.
Kara_mel, modkil threatens both for the showdown of his role, and for the false showdown.
Before posting my analysis, I presented it to GM. And made some amendments. So everything is legal on this side. At least by the rules of this particular game.Цитировать06. Falcon hunting -- ? - perhaps Hyde
08. Drusha -- Moreau the Artie
09. Bratuxa777 -- Scrooge
If the three mafiosi dropped out, and Ilf and Petrov point to the pastor, then as whom do you even hang me, dear? Why don’t you hang the pastor, whom your decision accuses of mafia?
The main one is the facts I showed, that Marple is dead, while you're saying to be Marple.
Do you keep saying that Marple, during the execution of her potential close ally, Biggles, attacked him and started beating him? Oh, yes, I did not hope to meet such a revelation.I'm not a fan of fiction literature, so I have little idea, but I assume, that out of large bibliography and movies of all kinds she could have punched someone.
I'm not a fan of fiction literature, so I have little idea, but I assume, that out of large bibliography and movies of all kinds she could have punched someone.
30%, not much. You're trying to say, that you're Todd in last posts, including asking chances for you. So, you trying to say to Mouse, that you're the one who needed to be convinced?It's too much.
Try to find a more logical explanation.
Def + block of killer?What does the block have to do with it, if both examples are described as attempts, just like you on the third night?
No, these are 2 defenses / treatment, no blocks in this case.I think this is very strict conclusion.
I think this is very strict conclusion.Well, let's say what night the block was, and what protection?
It's too much.
Shiori has 65, I have 30. But the standard error, as you said, is 5%. It turns out that 5% is the Pastor and the Mouse together. The mess.
At the moment, I have come to the conclusion that you will not be able to turn around with the Mouse, in principle, regardless of what is happening (if I'm wrong, say it now).
Thus, I want to listen to real claims to myself, for these very 30% maniac. What has been done wrong?
The mouse said so that he did not vote against me, why would I give him anything else to hint?
You should not have left so many percent, if you consider it as a peaceful player.
There is simply nowhere for them to come from.
I put my explanation fair and square. It's your turn to find reasoning.
Also, accuse me why I am a Lady Perfection?
Unfortunately, this is how I see the situation with 65-30-2.5-2.5 of a maniac.With this vision of the situation, you are not very successful in being peaceful in my world.
Silent players killed by Todd and you're words to others of your percentage of being a maniac are just big hints to me.
Mafia is team-based game and I do not intend of ruining the game with principles of any sort. Provide more suitable and reasonable candidate and I will support.
Kara_Mel |
Mafia is team-based game and I do not intend of ruining the game with principles of any sort. Provide more suitable and reasonable candidate and I will support.But you said that this changing stuff is not your cup of tea, don't you?
But you said that this changing stuff is not your cup of tea, don't you?
It is a great temptation for me to vote against Kara_mel, this could include the achievement “execute the three who voted against you”, but I will vote in accordance with Uranium, as I said.you have the right to change your mind.
With this vision of the situation, you are not very successful in being peaceful in my world.
If the invicta skips the move on the mafia and mana, then skips the move in any case.
You simply could not have such a large percentage, I have no black actions, and I didn’t hide from the mafia’s bullet, but was sent to it.
Another try, remains 30% or not?
Now it’s not so much about me as about you in my eyes. And if you are a city, then I definitely have to go out peaceful. 5% on errors are the maximum that I am ready to see.
It is a great temptation for me to vote against Kara_mel, this could include the achievement “execute the three who voted against you”, but I will vote in accordance with Uranium, as I said.you have the right to change your mind.
But if I still have 30% Todd, then the chances that both conditions are fulfilled are pretty good.
you have the right to change your mind.
The game went too fast, about too many players I can’t say anything at all.
I don't know what you're hoping for Uranium with trying me to change my percentages, but this will not work. I don't care about who is a maniac with chances today, but who the mafia is.Well, why is it not Pastor or Shiori?
I'll leave it as it is. You trying me to change what I have already written, but I won't. I see maniac in one of the 2 experienced players and this is my final words. I'm using with my own experience. The results will show who was right.
Oh, really? You gave such a comprehensive analysis yesterday and now you're saying that you cannot say anything.
For a classic player, it’s not possible to begin to consider that the Pastor Mafia is now of course possible, but in this case the forces should be thrown to convince him.
I can try to guess the roles, but I have nothing to say about the players. There is nothing to say about who did not play.You're crumbling, but others ignore it. Perhaps I was mistaken. There is not only one mafia in the game, but two.
Cyberinsecurity Plagues LondonHere is the killer block on the first night. Julik comes out with a downed defense, not otherwise.
The Old Smoke, our beloved Corporation, has never been particularly renowned for providing top-notch commodities to its employees and citizens. However, the latest events mark brand new, groundbreaking levels of negligence and decay that our cybersecurity is capable to reach. Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered. Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark; this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularity. One may ask us who is responsible for this debacle. Alas, we all know the answer, aren't we?
— George E. G. Watt
Well, I have said it, but it has never worked with me before.
Now you come to me and you say 'Don Corleone, give me justice', but you don't even ask with respect. You don't offer friendship. You don't even think to call me Godfather.
Well, I have said it, but it has never worked with me before. But let's give it a try.
The last case made me actually laugh, sorry; I reckon that ridiculous turn of events cost me some mental stability. This time it was Julik1221. While being out on duty (which is surprising), she called 112 with acute poisoning. But, even though the emergency didn't bother to arrive, somehow the situation turned out to be okay—that is until an ice crusher didn't randomly fall from the top shelf and crush her firm skull. This is, undoubtedly, a bitter loss for all of us. (Still funny, I'm deeply sorry).
Well, I have said it, but it has never worked with me before. But let's give it a try.I have some reasons to think like that, so actually I wouldn't change my mind, and if you wanna know—Mouse is the second one in my suspicious listСпойлерO~o~ooh! My heart is melting, sweetie! Q____Q
I am so~o~o~o sorry, really... I... I should not suspect you, you know, I'm just a simple newbie who make some mistakes, that's all! Forgive me, I... ah-h... how dare I... I was not right!Oh, wait, stahp. That's not enough... You know, you would reached much greater effect if you bowed to me ^^"
Ahem. ^is that what you expected?
I hope that after the game you'll tell me what they were?
I have some reasons to think like that, so actually I wouldn't change my mind, and if you wanna know—Mouse is the second one in my suspicious listYou give too much Shiori peace. Perhaps this is correct when looking for the mafia.
Yep, definitelyThat's reassuring. I'll come back with the last words later.
This is the first kill attempt. It is hard to understand the killer role, I do not see any clear sign of him. The attempt have failed because of Sherlock's curing, if to rely on the mention of the health packs. But. This is the great luck to predict a prey from the fourteen players. So one of the many active and passive defenses can be the alternative cause for the fail. The author's name can contain hint for some info, but also can be just artistic description. Fergus Hume /not Fume/ is the novelist that inspire Arthur Conan Doyle to write A Study in Scarlet. So I think that Sherlock's curing is the more likely version.And this is what Oliver said about Jeeves. Of course, of course (no).
Shiori, you don’t have much time left to answer the question.Well, what is your version?
You give too much Shiori peace. Perhaps this is correct when looking for the mafia.To be honest, it's difficult to decide who between Mouse and Shiori is maniac, but for now I hold my point where Shiori is Griffin
And if a maniac?
In fact, feathers and pieces of plastics (katans) point to the role, but I twisted it in every way and have no idea what it could meanI thought that it was hint not to the role, but to the player's description. Now I have no idea about this at all
Well, what is your version?Oliver is dead, Julik.
To be honest, it's difficult to decide who between Mouse and Shiori is maniac, but for now I hold my point where Shiori is GriffinYou think badly, we found out that in this case the survey options are not very suitable.
You think badly, we found out that in this case the survey options are not very suitable.
Ok, what do you think then?I think that he is the most likely maniac, interrogation and protection are ideal, bracing for an oliver, which did not work either.
12. Can I have a list of Alice's "Action types" for Drink Me?
Of course, there you are.
Life: Hard cash, Headshot, Haircut, November 5th, Overhaul*, Last goodbye, Presentiment, Solidarity, Chifir (50%)
Data: Cleanup, Big Brother*, Yahoo!*, Arms collector*, Solicitude, Drink Me, Turing test
Action: Bribe, Watchdog, Meme, Rabbit Hole, Darjeeling, Assam, Chifir (50%)
Communication: Intimidation, Authority. When the marked (*) abilities fulfill Traits' requirements (Old Guard, Old foe), they're also seen as Communication actions.
Mimicry: no permanent type. It is seen of the type that was mimed by Orlando, Example: Orlando mimes Solicitude, then Alice checks Orlando and gets the "Data" result because Solicitude is a Data-type Action.
Shiori |
shiori |
So you want to execute Shiori? A strange move for a city dweller, but a promise is a promise.Nobody obliges you to hold on to him.
Shiori |
I don't have a reason to change my vote, but so be it just in case of intimidation. Mouse won't go down anyway.Well you read the explanation. If the Mouse on negativity skittered so smartly under Marple that he even thought up the fact that he should not be attributed to Poppins to Rogue, then he has earned my trust now.
Well you read the explanation. If the Mouse on negativity skittered so smartly under Marple that he even thought up the fact that he should not be attributed to Poppins to Rogue, then he has earned my trust now.
Shall I cut the 24 hours limit? Everyone seem quite active.
Day closed! Lemme some time to write the result...For the two mafia in the game except for Shiori and Invictu, the statement is too strange.
You can think about your NAs for now ^^
Shall I cut the 24 hours limit? Everyone seem quite active.Well, let’s say frankly, I got tired today, and the night at half an hour is not very ready to see.
YupBut you know that you lost a small duel with Caramel, because you did not vote?
Shall I cut the 24 hours limit? Everyone seem quite active.
For the two mafia in the game except for Shiori and Invictu, the statement is too strange.Time's up, duh! :wut:
YupBut you know that you lost a small duel with Caramel, because you did not vote?
But you know that you lost a small duel with Caramel, because you did not vote?
I came back when all already voted for Shiori and day was closed, of course I lostThis is not great. You asked me what I think, and you didn’t come to read the answer to see if I agree to expel Caramel with you - well, or just check what the vote is about.
I came back when all already voted for Shiori and day was closed, of course I lostThis is not great. You asked me what I think, and you didn’t come to read the answer to see if I agree to expel Caramel with you - well, or just check what the vote is about.
Yep, cuz I had some personal reasons to be afk for some time. Any questions?Yes, you can answer how carefully you read the FAQ, which I read above.
Yep, cuz I had some personal reasons to be afk for some time. Any questions?Yes, you can answer how carefully you read the FAQ, which I read above.
and a well-known bowler hat
... That night shiori, tied and shackled, passed in Newgate with words going off his lips: “Yes... all of us deserve to die.” The gallows were waiting, a crowd was gathering. Suddenly, a wild alpaca herd appeared and attacked the crowd. A number of fellow Londoners fell eaten alive; among the bodies, the remnants of poor InVictA were found. Later, some witness said that in his last minute prior to his death, he was desperately looking around and calling someone whether “dirty” or “wordy”... A minute later, he was consumed by the vile fluffy creatures. Thus, in due time a swinging corpse was all that remained of the cyan-haired girl from the land of the rising sun, and a well-known bowler hat—from a man with a peculiarly-spelled nickname.As expected, it is impossible to precisely name the role of Shiori.
But what does it have to do with it:
“Dirty” or “wordy” I do not know.
If he is the last mafia - there should be a hint to him in the last night kill. The first link is more direct to the topic - there is a medicine + sedative drugs promoted by our lovely Mickey Mouse! Second is a link to a similarly named sedative drug. Unfortunately, I missed that idea before.
Day 5 has started. Deadline TUE, 4 PM. 48 hours left.But we might reduce the day to 24 or 36 hours if you agree on it until 10 PM today
And ... just in case Alice is alive. I would like to give her advice - now it’s much less useful for you to redirect those you suspect. Even if you redirect the killer, you won’t be sure that the murder was committed by the one you transferred. But if you received information about the type of player’s actions, you would be much more confident in who he can be and who he cannot. Of course, if you survive.
The fact that Kara_Mel was a victim gave me hope, but not really. And yours suspects where Cara is Orlando have no sense, for me that Goose's descritpion seems like literary device. Why shall we hang the one who not a mafia/maniac? Just to check? What if I'll hang you? Just to check, I promise, y'know, you are anon and Orlando is... kind of anon!
no one |
Kara_Mel, dear, so which of the three of us wrote the note? I strongly hope that you will not insist on the authorship of Uranus, ha ha! It is not in the style of a pastor too, he has enough posts for comparison. I AM? Knowledge of the language would be enough for me, yes. But here's a funny thing - for the mafia there is no point in writing this note if he is going to kill a townsman. But if he imitates a suicide attempt, then this note is to his advantage.
no one |
No one |
Time magic - Summon Clockkeeper (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ARb8scMLfY)I'll discuss this in PM with everybody and then make a decision. I certainly don't want to prolong the game for another 3-5 days, but I'm not sure how heavily I should reduce the deadline(s).
This week does not stop amazing. At this critical moment, we once again have no citizens doomed to end their life tonight. This is a confusingly strange development of events if you contrast it to last voting's fierce invasion of the overseas beasts. It would be too early to call the night completely peaceful, however, as we still had one victim of an assault. It was Kara_Mel who reported about getting shot. Her wound was said to be of grave danger; nevertheless, we can see today that she feels better and is able to continue participating in our struggle. Was it mere luck, some mysterious stranger's service, or the result of her own efforts? We cannot say right now.I can not and will not throw out the probability of poppins self-shooting. I will not affirm it, but this is not a forbidden move. I think she herself will agree with me that it’s easier for the mafia to win when there are four players left than when there are three.
We are saddened to admit that with the shrinking audience, we are also about to be left the smaller staff. Our beloved George E. G. Watt is struggling with severe consequences that befell upon him due to the stress of self-isolation and latest news. This tragic fate might reach any of us these days. While illegal business is thriving, the government finds itself on the brink of collapse after fierce internal clashes. Whether it will manage to stand in this decisive struggle with anti-government movement or not, we cannot say. In any case: please be cautious, act wisely, and take care of yourselves. And oh, at least we're still receiving some correspondence, no matter how intimidating its content is!As you remember, the government is our mafia, and again we are talking about internal clashes. It is so pale that it’s even ridiculous.
Nobody.One |
Well, for now I have nothing to say and my voice is unlikely to affect anything, soYou can analyze the newspaper and arrange the roles of all those who left, especially the mafia, since most likely we are looking for the latter. Is it bad to study how the connection between the mafia usually looks?
It's even funny how aggressively you're coming against me, Miss Marple.
In the end, I look forward to opinions about dropouts from everyone.
09. Bratuxa777 - Jekill-Hyde(for me nothing changed here)
02. CyberKeanu => Dmixn - Scrooge(frock coat + manners + hostility to the representative of the urban faction)I have almost the same, in fact, with the exception that Bratukha is Scrooge (business), and Dmksin is Hyde (from what he read, he is a lover of dissolving his hands and bumping someone).
03. Putin mod.2 - Biggles(vocabulary + sonorous voice + нe caused the death of the attacking Dmixn - a reference to the ability of "Veteran". )
04. Sue Sharlin - LIZ (I don’t think it’s necessary to discuss)
05. l10ha - probably Orlando(indications of it are unclear (possible self-medication + sleeping Charlemagne with his knights), but we can recall that the Goose was not too bothered in the game. Orlando only needs to survive.)
06. Falcon hunting - doctor Moreau(confidant of Queen, which was mentioned in the description of his death)
07. shiori - Sweeney Todd(the presence of protection + dying phrase, characteristic of the crazy and gloomy avenger who lost everything)
08. Drusha - Sherlock(a description of death + a message about the importance of his role + attempts to give advice for the city at the very end)
09. Bratuxa777 - Jekill-Hyde(for me nothing changed here)
10. Julik1221 - Oliver(twice survived)
11. SamPie - must be Robin(press F to pay respect - meme)
12. InVictA - Jeeves(bowler hat + "Bertie")
I have almost the same, in fact, with the exception that Bratukha is Scrooge (business), and Dmksin is Hyde (from what he read, he is a lover of dissolving his hands and bumping someone).
How difficult it is for the last mafa, you just imagine.
The first night the shot did not pass. The next - the maniac killed one. The second is completely silent. The third merged, in fact, asking for a modkill.
Imagine in such a situation, still gather with at least some forces and continue the struggle.Against a clean showdown
No, Hyde doesn't fit.
The last maf (well, except Poppins) can shoot along with the action. It is unlikely that there is an option so that in such a situation he could not get caught if he was going to kill.
This is comply with my previous analysis, if something not clear - I will repeat.
02. Dmixn - Marple
03. Putin mod.2 - Biggles
04. Sue Sharlin - LIZ
05. l10ha - Orlando
06. Falcon hunting - Hyde or Poppins
07. shiori - Todd
08. Drusha - Moreau the Artie
09. Bratuxa777 - Scrooge
10. Julik1221 - Oliver
11. SamPie - Robin
12. InVictA - Jeeves
Roles in the game - Sherlock, Alice, Griffin and Poppins/Hyde.
If I'm mafia and I'm that BAD why don't you lynched me?!
I'm really tired of this quarrel. If I'm mafia and I'm that BAD why don't you lynched me?! If I'm mafia - find a hint on me in the text! Go 'head!
But I still expect the Pastor to talk to us.
Because, according to the formal criterion of the mafia, he is quite stretched on a demoral.
Yesterday, he could have ruined the day like that, Shiori could have voted by making a draw, and Caramel’s voice was optional. That is, one might think in such a way that the three peaceful voted together, so it didn’t work out so much to come up with negatives.
Actually, if Pastor and Caramel were two worlds, with a very high probability the mafia would add along with one of them, and Shiori, who was uninteresting to add a third to hang on to.
Therefore, I don’t trust Mice is quite difficult, because if he is a maf, then missed a good chance yesterday. A similar logic can be applied to vote Caramel in the Mouse - if the Pastor is a mafia, then it would be easiest for him to add a second vote, hoping that Shiori will give a third to someone from (which actually is the difference).
But Shiori was not very active, and in general, there are not such experts in collecting votes and I understand the situation in order to rely 100% on these factors.
But they have a place to be, only the Pastor does not want to come and say, "Uranus, you are right, I also think I’ll agree with what you’re saying," or "look, here you have a mistake."
I have nothing to say until the night results, really. Actually, I kinda agree with all of u with those player/role analysis, but not fully. For example, I still consider Bratuxa as Scrooge, but then idk who is the Hyde then. Untill that night I thought he is alive, but now it doesn't seem like that. And I suspected Mouse because of his strange desire to hang Kara_Mel, based on fact that he considers her as Orlando. I more prefer version with Mary Poppins now, but still not sureI think this true.
So yeah, not much usefulSo there is still a lower part from the chief editor, can you really see nothing there?
And I suspected Mouse because of his strange desire to hang Kara_Mel, based on fact that he considers her as Orlando.
So there is still a lower part from the chief editor, can you really see nothing there?
And anyway, I'm interested in knowing how much you suspect me? Maybe there are some controversial issues - so let's work them out now.
Not really actually. I have some thoughts about your possible role and it's peaceful. For now it seems to me like that. I'm a bit confused now because I don't know what to think about Mouse and CaraAnd what is there to think about?
My will - Mouse. Lynch him to over this masquerade of lies and deceptions. Hope no one will die at night (judging by me - there no headshots left). Alice, if you're alive - you're the key to it.Thank you for the last word (although still too early), I will consider it in case of your death. Will you consider mine?
Two shots, heart and forehead,
sound of a motorbike woke
The combined road course at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway used for the F1 U.S. Grand Prix has been described by Jacques Villeneuve and other competitors as "Mickey Mouse"[83] due to its slow uninteresting corners, and lack of challenging corners
Anony-mouse |
do we need to solve the hint?You can do this if you want.
Can you tell me which move you think is logical for Alice today?
Do you remember what I have written yesterday? Who do you think after killing attempt on me will be a target of assassination? And how it could be prevented with the help of Alice?Well, then answer these questions yourself.
Do you remember what I have written yesterday? Who do you think after killing attempt on me will be a target of assassination? And how it could be prevented with the help of Alice?Well, then answer these questions yourself.
Because if you consider you a victim, it’s stupid to translate you, isn’t it?
But Alice doesn’t translate anywhere, but to the one on the list below. I'm alive. Your option
Still alive (4):
01. pastor chivay
13. Kara_Mel
14. Anony-mouse
15. Uranium235
1. Rabbit Hole: redirects the target’s action to the next living player in the list.Do you know why action is written here, not actions?
Do you know why action is written here, not actions?
What is the difference?
You can do this if you want.
Can you tell me which move you think is logical for Alice today?
When the decision was made I thought about headshot and "cannot go to the same target two nights consequently" but nothing against n-tuple actions on one night. Now you can do 2+2. Alongside with what Alice did.An absurd decision in terms of strategy.
So I do not see any useful actions for Alice at this stage.But I see.
So I do not see any useful actions for Alice at this stage.I mean useful redirection actions. Alice should have received information.
But I see.Yes, I have already added to the written. And yesterday I advised Alice to try to get information. Probably because of the fear that she would do this, the pastor was killed.
Besides translation, she also has another action, checking the type of action. Who has a different type of action when he is a mafia and when not a mafia?
In general, you can not answer, it's just to think.
Yes, I have already added to the written. And yesterday I advised Alice to try to get information. Probably because of the fear that she would do this, the pastor was killed.In fact, it was not worth doing it yesterday, but the day before yesterday. Also a blunder.
An absurd decision in terms of strategy.
After all, it is beneficial for the city to switch from state 3-1 to state 2-1, in which there is less chance of a mistake in the vote. To concentrate efforts when you really need to divide the eggs into different baskets is a gross mistake, the defeat for which will be completely fair.
Especially if you think about what the moves of other players will be before.
In fact, it was not worth doing it yesterday, but the day before yesterday.
I have incorrectly given roles between Pastor and GriffinTell me why the Pastor did not want to vote Shiori?
And at that moment I thought Alice was already dead. I still don’t understand why there were feathers and fragments of plastic katanas in Robin’s room. Only thanks to the prompts of other players did I realize that the “F” indicates a meme.Other players (Uranus).
, about you my suspicions grew throughout the game. Although, due to some circumstances, I did not want to attack you, suggesting that everything could be explained by unfamiliarity with the format of the game. But, if you check your posts, you can see how almost everywhere you tried to apply the broadest possible interpretations, even where everything was completely clear. This is one of the characteristic features of mafiosi.
At the same time, on the contrary, I tried to narrow the choice of roles for each player to an absolute minimum, even at the cost of mistakes. But mistakes are not scary, if you are mistaken - theN other players correct you and all this is for the common good.
I am waiting for the story of where the murders happened each time they were missing.I don't get the idea of what kind of analysis you want to hear. Write using transliteration, please :wtf:
I don't get the idea of what kind of analysis you want to hear. Write using transliteration, please
Anony-mouse, You also write where the murders failed on what nights, or what.
Drink Me"But I cannot say which night it was done. The trigger of his vote against me seems was mentioning "Sherlock or Orlando" in my analysis.
That sounds very good, but why are you not voting yet?
The first night was an attack on Julik / Oliver. Who attacked - I have no idea. At that time, the Falcon, which I consider to be Dr. Moreau, and also the Shiori, Todd, was active. Slightly more likely that Shiori attacked the silent man, that he was doing the whole game. It is likely that the mafiosi were stopped by a hack block, the multiplicity of which was mentioned in the newspapers.there would be a desire, you can extract more.
The second night, two murders, as I understand it, it does not interest you.
Third night. The falcon came under modkill, plus an attack on the shiori. Actually ... if we assume that the mafiosi attacked the shiori, then it is possible that the mafiosi were murderers the first night, while the shiori was blocked. And with one night's pass, Shiori was blocked again.
Fourth night. A bunch of killings - skip.
Further, we no longer have Todd and no passes for killing.
Actually, I don’t see what else could be extracted from the newspaper.
1st nightAt the expense of S-4 version is not bad.
Julik1221 - survived on his on due to attack from ?
I can only guess - "morning's Scotland Yard report brings not a single case of homicide", that with that sentence was told about that killing attempt was not from the mafia. But why there was no even attempt - big question.
From the other side - "some health packs" - can say, that both of mafia and maniac were there. I like this version more.
3rd night. Shiori was attacked by the mafia, while Shiori himself could place C4 somewhere it not worked.
Can be a hint to it "The police forewarn tirelessly to avoid dubious establishments.".
That sounds very good, but why are you not voting yet?
Any whim for your money, darling.
Pastor said, that he was late to change his vote.This is not the point; he initially considered Shiori a city.
there would be a desire, you can extract more.
Uranium, I know that you are an incredibly consistent, meticulous and analysis-inclined player. But, for heaven’s sake, you already have more than enough data to make a right decision. Or do you want to calculate the course of the entire game without waiting for the log from GM?I show the correct game, you need to give chances always, no matter how strong the confidence.
Could it be that the lack of murder on the first night is a block of the mafia or maniac?
Yes, it could. Now that you said it - I see what I missed.Depression and flash mob are written in one sentence. I think the first is Griffin's move, the second is Robin's move, and they have one goal.
There is a blocker for the mafia, but it's unreasonable move => "Old foe : if checks Ms Marple" - "Big Brother : checks". There no reason to block on the first day, but to search.
Orlando - could be anything, but self-healing is in the priority, I think. That what I would do, actually.
Griffin's Chifir is foolish action at the first turn, nope.
Christopher Robin left as a blocker, so seems it was his block. But who was blocked - it's hard to say. But I see no clue there. Let Shiori be blocked and this was mafia with cleanup, who shot Julik.
https://mafiaforum.org/index.php?topic=896.msg1299535#msg1299535For a logically minded person, this should mean that either Alice transferred me and the shiori to the murdered one. Or she didn’t do either one or the other.
After that, mix something up. Well, you're not a Pastor, so you know how to count and prioritize.
You said that successful treatment on the first night is unbelievable. But this is not entirely true, there are at least 2 (!) Treatments for different roles, and 2 murder attempts from different factions. The odds are not negligible, obviously.
That's why I have trouble with the rebuilding of past events based on such vague results.
"Our good fellow Londoner, Julik1221, had to use some health packs to get back on her feet."
If he was a target to be killed:
1) First of all, he is a random target - not one of those who had posts in the topic.
2) I cannot see why a silent person was protected in the first place when there are more active people who needed it for the first night.
3) As for now, I do not see any points, that emphasize that it was Mary or Todd's attempt. And they are in different teams.
4) Maybe it's showing even "survives X kills attempts" passive ability, then it could become more logical, than protecting some random guy by Sherlock.
Old Guard : if visits Ms Marple or Biggles, gets acquainted with them.
It seems to me that we just played a damaged phone, I meant that on the site of Caramel, it is extremely difficult to confuse something with the role of the Pastor, if at least a minimal analysis is carried out. And choosing between a peaceful one who did not do analysis and a mafia that wants to show that it is so peaceful, I am inclined to choose the second.
For a player with some experience behind him so surely.
Why I'm sure about Mouse?
Baby, if you are so eager to win that you use such dirty tricks as over-emotional font size, I leave the conversation. I don’t know what to talk about with such players.I assure you that you can hardly say something new to each other. Talk to me.
Why I'm sure about Mouse?
Because you know my role?
Baby, if you are so eager to win that you use such dirty tricks as over-emotional font size, I leave the conversation. I don’t know what to talk about with such players.
I have already described how the lead composes hints. I want this format of evidence. That is, the wiki page associated with someone’s profile - a hyperlink (several times) - is the final hint.And I have shown what I've found. I see nothing more.
I'm not planning to convince you anymore. Enough!Are you sure?
You're seeing problems and mafia in my actions - vote against me.
Are you sure?
Damn it, damn it all! I just don't know what else you're thinking about. I told you everything I know! I just cannot see what else I can tell to you.Well, for example, what would be told in the classics.
I cannot find other explanations than I have already provided.
What is the connection between the Mouse and three other mafes.
Between who I see as mafia or who YOU see as mafia? We have some differences.The one that Caramel sees. The language barrier, perhaps.
02. Dmixn - Marple
03. Putin mod.2 - Biggles
04. Sue Sharlin - LIZ
05. l10ha - Orlando
06. Falcon hunting - Hyde or Poppins
07. shiori - Todd
08. Drusha - Moreau the Artie
09. Bratuxa777 - Scrooge
10. Julik1221 - Oliver
11. SamPie - Robin
12. InVictA - Jeeves
Falcon hunting (3): Uranium235, pastor chivay, goose
l10ha (1): Kara_Mel
None of the above (3): Putin mod.2, Anony-mouse, Drusha
Drusha (5): l10ha, Kara_Mel, pastor chivay, Putin mod.2, shiori, Anony-mouse
Anony-mouse (2): InVictA, Drusha
SamPie (1): Uranium235
A few mistakes, like an absurd 30% for a maniac without a single black action and the maximum muddy balance - they need to be outweighed by something very difficult and convincing.
I told, that maniac killing inactive - is someone experienced. It's not an act of novice, and it takes guts - only Shiori and you left, so I had such distribution of probability.You understand what I mean.
That is, thinking is incorrect initially. Keeping it in spite of the most direct indication that you don’t need to do this looks much more like a necessary measure in order to record peace for someone you want to suspect later than a real misunderstanding of the situation.
A. I will point out one more thing, Uranium. The Falcon has not once mentioned me in his messages. Not a single one. But he was very willing to communicate with Kara_Mel, more than a third of his messages are conversations with her.My judgment in the case of Messor is that I can’t say anything concrete, any scenario is possible.
You know him and you can assume whether this player can completely avoid communication with members of his gang.
And Drusha talked with me only in an attempt to find a replacement for himself to hang.
You can read these conversations yourself and make your own judgment.
If there will be a next time - I'll take in into account and play differently. But for now, all I can say - this is how I saw the game, nothing more, nothing less.Next time there will be other roles and a different situation. The author’s full-role sets are good because you need to think differently every time, and not repeat the worked out paths as in the classics.
This week does not stop amazing. At this critical moment, we once again have no citizens doomed to end their life tonight. This is a confusingly strange development of events if you contrast it to last voting's fierce invasion of the overseas beasts. It would be too early to call the night completely peaceful, however, as we still had one victim of an assault. It was Kara_Mel who reported about getting shot. Her wound was said to be of grave danger; nevertheless, we can see today that she feels better and is able to continue participating in our struggle. Was it mere luck, some mysterious stranger's service, or the result of her own efforts? We cannot say right now.
65% was percentage of Shiori being maniac out of 100% for all roles possible for him. It's different than I'll say 65% out of maniac is Shiori. The same goes with you, but you got it wrong and I followed. Why?
the government finds itself on the brink of collapse after fierce internal clashes
65% was percentage of Shiori being maniac out of 100% for all roles possible for him. It's different than I'll say 65% out of maniac is Shiori. The same goes with you, but you got it wrong and I followed. Why?
It's too much.
Shiori has 65, I have 30. But the standard error, as you said, is 5%. It turns out that 5% is the Pastor and the Mouse together. The mess.
At the moment, I have come to the conclusion that you will not be able to turn around with the Mouse, in principle, regardless of what is happening (if I'm wrong, say it now).
Thus, I want to listen to real claims to myself, for these very 30% maniac. What has been done wrong?
The mouse said so that he did not vote against me, why would I give him anything else to hint?
You should not have left so many percent, if you consider it as a peaceful player.
There is simply nowhere for them to come from.
I remind you that I need to prove something, as if I am 10 years old and down syndrome in addition.
So, imagining that this is so, explain how quote number 1 corresponds to quote number 2, since I see the opposite meaning in them.Unfortunately, this is how I see the situation with 65-30-2.5-2.5 of a maniac.
Silent players killed by Todd and you're words to others of your percentage of being a maniac are just big hints to me.
Mafia is team-based game and I do not intend of ruining the game with principles of any sort. Provide more suitable and reasonable candidate and I will support.
The tags went astray, but I think the point is clear.
If you said earlier that 65-30-2.5-2.5 concerns the role of a maniac in general among the remaining roles, then why now say that it concerns the role of Shiori, and not all possible maniacs.
Here one thing is clearly wrong, and it is necessary to explain what exactly or why I am stupid.
the government finds itself on the brink of collapse after fierce internal clashesI have no idea, but "on the brink of collapse" is definitely saying, that there is only one mafiosi left in the game. "internal clashes" can mean, that inside mafia the target was chosen not by majority/something stopped from the headshot, or something similar.
So, I'm telling this, because I finally got where you meant a different thing and if you're put too much attention to % - I'll show the difference.I got a percentage from your own words.
This is how you got my %, and at first, I didn't realize it, so later I had nothing, but to follow.
30%, not much. You're trying to say, that you're Todd in last posts, including asking chances for you. So, you trying to say to Mouse, that you're the one who needed to be convinced?Now let's do the math.
And I'm still waiting for an explanation of the second part of the newspaper, with contradictions within the corporation that describe the shot very well.It's above.
I have no idea, but "on the brink of collapse" is definitely saying, that there is only one mafiosi left in the game. "internal clashes" can mean, that inside mafia the target was chosen not by majority/something stopped from the headshot, or something similar.No, I do not like.
GM will not describe conflicts within the conference of the Mafia.If you say, that he cannot...
Judging by the overall situation - the shot was transferred with 90% of possibility. There is no need to reflect, that shot to me is something leading to "internal clashes".I meant - otherwise - there is no need to reflect, that shot to me is something leading to "internal clashes".
, Umm ... I have to tell you that all your efforts are in vain. Uranium has a 100% payout method for the city. He just won't vote. As a result, I will die, but you will die too. Uranium will remain the only urban player. easy-breezy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-91y7BJ8QA) Even without a 0.01% chance of error.What is that statement?
If I don’t vote, there will be a draw on which the one against whom the vote was cast earlier is eliminated (that is, you).
Yeah. I have re-read rules. Sorry, you still have to make a choice. And I really hoped.I did not like this statement.
Because in the event that I really agreed not to vote, you would be able to withdraw your vote, and thus the day will end without penalty, which is beneficial for the mafia.
But there is still a chance to show me that despite the fact that Dmksin Hyde, Marple is dead before.
Now I am waiting for this.
A variant must definitely exist.
In the end, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/meatbag
Like a meat bag! the robot should have said.
I can’t find an exact definition of who it is, in fact, because the character is a hybrid from Moriarty and Dr. Moreau, as well as the other is a hybrid of Sherlock and Dr. Watson.
In general, if it is possible to interpret something falsely, there should be an opportunity to show real data.
In this case, I will look for the role of Sue (alternative)
The chair is another detail that points to SherlockExplain why, I probably already spent too much time analyzing and losing the thread.
Explain why, I probably already spent too much time analyzing and losing the thread.
I'm trying to link the description of Dryusha's death with Liz Bennett now.
Yes, I like it, well, Caramel will come let him tell his version.
The first report is of particular peculiarity. Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features. Nothing was touched in the room; Schotland Yard has not a single assumption of what might have caused such a malignant and terrible contortion. Sue was deeply loved by many of us, and this loss will be deeply mourned.
Well, simply because it is not mentioned further, it means that it has already left us. Also, a skipping course is consistent with its activity.
Well, and so, consider Dryusha as Moro.
Nothing was touched is strange too.
In that case, perhaps, Sue could be Moro, while Messor's role has to be Marple, as I see no proofs to his role.
, хорош прятаться, я знаю, ты где-то здесь! Решил заняться ролеплеем в конце игры, да?
– HEY, what's that speech??
Why are you SO nervous? Yesterday you told, that you have nothing to say, but still you here and worried about results.
Mea culpa.MORE languages!! @_@ :scream:
Why does Sherlock (or any other player) be surprised with the killer? This is not something to be surprised about. Nothing was touched is strange too.This is just logical. Sherlock is a boxer, fencer and so on, it is not so easy to defeat him. And some woman got him.
Cara mel |
Who was the rest of mafia, Mouse?
Who was the rest of mafia, Mouse?
True to the end, Mary?)))
This is just logical. Sherlock is a boxer, fencer and so on, it is not so easy to defeat him. And some woman got him.
The end is already here, I don't have anything to hide if I were Mary. Uranium made his choice, so I have nothing but to admit, that you outplayed everyone exceptionally well. The only mistake I regret - that I didn't change my vote to you that day.
The end is already here, I don't have anything to hide if I were Mary. Uranium made his choice, so I have nothing but to admit, that you outplayed everyone exceptionally well. The only mistake I regret - that I didn't change my vote to you that day.
Then you should congratulate not me, but Uranium.
, I will not change my voice in any case, you can not try. I was already ready to ask to make it immutable earlier. If Uranium so skillfully played me, then victory is his.
I also do not think that you will be able to confuse Uranium, since he has seen such psychological games more than once.
We will see all the answers in the last post of GM.
And since the game is not finished yet, judging by the post of GM, I have no right to name my role.
Lightning -> electricity -> laptop.
And note, that it was Mouse, who put the idea about me shooting myself. I had no idea that it's possible before he put it out.Yes, I was also somewhat surprised at the implementation of just such a plan.
Strange knowledge for first analysis of the day.
And note, that it was Mouse, who put the idea about me shooting myself. I had no idea that it's possible before he put it out.Yes, I was also somewhat surprised at the implementation of just such a plan.
Strange knowledge for first analysis of the day.
That is, it’s pretty beautiful, albeit useless, to spend your defense, so I thought that everything should not be so simple.
The problem is that this may be a consequence of the translation, and in general, if the Mouse shoots you initially, then how it will win, it will have about zero reasons for suspecting me and the Pastor.
The power of what I call the reverse information is great; giving an extra night on purpose is a sentence.
, you are the most stubborn mafioso I have seen in all games) You should have had lectures, but instead you are sitting here and trying to influence Uranium. Bravo!
Yes, both are true.
But you can also say that you danced around the Pastor.
None of this can serve as a sufficient argument against, I do not hide this and paint only the totality.
I was not so sure as possible, it seemed to you. There was definitely a chance. Even the factor that I was still alive, because I believed you had previously been neutralized by a clarification on the translation mechanics, in which I was not a very tasty target for the Mafia Mouse.
The internal contradictions of the corporation, Dmksin’s blow, amid the muddy description of Dryusha and the mention of Liz in the third newspaper, although she does not belong there by all laws. Say thanks to GM for these facts, they outweigh. I think that without all this, I would annihilate the Mouse, even with your own mistakes in actions, but it makes sense to make discounts on a newbie.
Incorrect - I have suspected Pastor and even tried to see hint to him.I did not notice something on the day of the vote against Shiori. Show?
That's interesting to see myself among—even close to—mafia, considering the fact that I did not see any suspections and some kind of arguments too today. Can you explain?
The Twelve Chairs interpretation is still here for me, but it's less precise (much much less) than Marple's Yahoo. That's why you're the second.
And dead silence in the topic. Less than 24 hours we have, but it's too early to jump out of discussions.
Mafia in descending order of probability for me now: Mouse -> Pastor -> Uranuim -> Shiori
Todd in descending order of probability: Shiori -> Uranium -> Mouse -> Pastor
If such mumbling will continue - I have nothing but to break this silence with a vote.
Mouse, I'm not stubborn at all, but you're the luckiest - yes.
Considering that 1 mafia and 1 mana remained, he was the last of all the suspicions.
Mouse: 1 + 3 place, Shiori 1 + 4, I 3 + 2. And he has 2 + 4.
I can not interpret it somehow differently, you explained why he was second to the mafia, but it did not follow from this that you would vote on him. Even when he gave a voice in you.
In general, Caramel, if the city, you think you know what you did wrong.Of course I know. But Mouse did not less, but still it is just a game.
And in that case, she could have played in a beautiful way, predicting what move Alice would make, and taking this into account.
In general, I have a strong suspicion that we will now congratulate Uranium)
04. Sue Sharlin — Doctor Moreau the Artie
04. Сью Шарлин- Доктор Моро Арти
09. Bratuxa777- Эбенезер Скрудж
02. CyberKeanu => Dmixn- jekyll001 / xXxhydexXx
Угадаете какой выстрел прошел по плану?
Угадаете какой выстрел прошел по плану?
я помню, когда использовала кроличью нору и на следующий день умер da Goose. з... знаешь... это было... больно.
Маус, прости но шансы надо было придумывать на ходу)
я помню, когда использовала кроличью нору и на следующий день умер da Goose. з... знаешь... это было... больно.Сначала пастор выжил, переведя убийство с себя на своего покровителя. А при следующей возможности – сам подставился под пулю... i cri evrytim ;_;
Сначала пастор выжил, переведя убийство с себя на своего покровителя. А при следующей возможности – сам подставился под пулю... i cri evrytim ;_;
я помню, когда использовала кроличью нору и на следующий день умер da Goose. з... знаешь... это было... больно.Сначала пастор выжил, переведя убийство с себя на своего покровителя. А при следующей возможности – сам подставился под пулю... i cri evrytim ;_;
Сначала пастор выжил, переведя убийство с себя на своего покровителя. А при следующей возможности – сам подставился под пулю... i cri evrytim ;_;
кАкаАя ТраГИичеСкаЯ СмЕРТть нНЕТ ТТакК Л Ли ( "qq)
А что с подсказками? Какие были на ваши роли? (Ну я некоторые знаю, но думаю, интересно было бы узнать)
Оу, оу, оу. Тогда понятно, что у меня не было шансов с моей маленькой аферой)
я помню, когда использовала кроличью нору и на следующий день умер da Goose. з... знаешь... это было... больно.Сначала пастор выжил, переведя убийство с себя на своего покровителя. А при следующей возможности – сам подставился под пулю... i cri evrytim ;_;
На самом деле я не знала как работают некоторые правила, но тут оказалось что:
1. Мало того, что выстрел может попасть в защиту, так еще и меня могут заблокировать и выстрела просто не будет;
2. Могут переместить не только абилку (т.е. я считала, что будет сдвиг Cleanupa), но и сам выстрел сдвинется (так погибла Сью, т.к. я даже не думала, что так может работать). Далее была аккуратнее.
было так больно! я заблокировала тебя в первую ночь и надеялась, что тебя будет легко повесить после этого...
Пастор вообще в конце закрутил со старушкой Марпл. Перевел меня дважды и оба раза на жертв покушения. Хорошо, что он умер, бедняжка, а то боюсь, что он совсем бы утратил ко мне доверие.
Мой последний выстрел был в Ураниума, но его перевели. Мне надо было угадать кто выдал удвоение :face: Победа была близка.
БРАТ. спустился с небес...было так больно! я заблокировала тебя в первую ночь и надеялась, что тебя будет легко повесить после этого...
ТЫ ВЕРНУЛСЯ :cryout: :cryout: :cryout: :cryout: :cryout: :cryout:
БРАТ. спустился с небес...
БРАТ. спустился с небес...
ночи ожидания прошли не зря. ты... ты знаешь, я даже успела в своих ночных действиях разыграть свадьбу...
ночь прошла продуктивно у тебя.....
ЗАТО ты пришла ко мне!!!!!!!!!!ночь прошла продуктивно у тебя.....
знаешь, она оказалась последней... :С
но нет, надо было отказаться от предложения и заспунитьОн отказался и заблочил тебя. Такие дуэли всю игру проходили
Как говорится: SCP six eighttt two succesfully terminated by CITIIIEZENS-unit! All scp subjects have been secured. Survivers win! Ну я в своем анализе оказался довольно близок к истине - lha оказался таки на стороне "фиолетовой стороны" Я ошибся в shiori анонимусе и уране. Прошу прощения, но на третий день мне казалось так. Но главное - я не ошибся насчет Кары, надеюсь мой анализ ее действий хоть как-то помог мирным выиграть...анализ действий - вряд ли.
Он отказался и заблочил тебя. Такие дуэли всю игру проходилиЯ понял про блок, видел же наметки, пишу же, взаимные негативные действия.
спасибо за игру :cryout:
мне было так приятно! и смешно и грустно. эта мафия создала что-то большее!
Все неформатные НД будут в логе:flush:
Ураниум занимался поиском отсутствия выстрела в 3-ю ночь. А его и не было - я из стратегических соображений не стала его заявлять, т.к. Уборка уже закончилась, а одной давать на себя улики - опасно. Правда потом выяснилось, что на меня улик так никто и не увидел.сейчас бы улик бояться (на самом деле, смысл конечно есть, бывают такие что без шансов). Но каждая лишняя ночь для мирных - это информация с нд, тянуть еще опаснее. Могло получится красиво, если бы Сампай был не оффлайн и поиграл против меня, не взирая на объяснения.
спасибо за игру :cryout:
мне было так приятно! и смешно и грустно. эта мафия создала что-то большее!
кто хотел повесить меня в один из первых дней ❤❤❤
кто хотел повесить меня в один из первых дней ❤❤❤
самые приятные воспоминания, так-то!
Ах, самым обидным было осознание в начале игры, что Кара — так-то, мафия, но вот как прикрутить её причастность к убийствам, основываясь на газетах... это был уже другой вопрос, я даже отчаялась на какое-то время. Если бы не то перенаправление к концу игры...
Следите за руками... Следите. В руках у пастора – обглоданная косточка запечённого гуся.
Все (сколько, три?) улики – потом, но своей последней я особенно горжусь, она просто фантастическая. Следите за руками... Следите. В руках у пастора – обглоданная косточка запечённого гуся. На аватарке Карамели – персонаж из God Eater. А? ;) А? :tip: А-А-А?? :awesome:СпойлерI'll show myself out :sad:
И еще отдельное спасибо за игруСпасибо на добром слове, Лиз! xD2
Все (сколько, три?) улики – потом, но своей последней я особенно горжусь, она просто фантастическая. Следите за руками... Следите. В руках у пастора – обглоданная косточка запечённого гуся. На аватарке Карамели – персонаж из God Eater.
Все (сколько, три?) улики – потом, но своей последней я особенно горжусь, она просто фантастическая. Следите за руками... Следите. В руках у пастора – обглоданная косточка запечённого гуся. На аватарке Карамели – персонаж из God Eater.
Я даже особо не стал ломать голову. То есть, я нашел злодея из Ральфа - гонщика Короля-Карамель(он же Турбо), выяснил, что мотоцикла у него не было, а дальше не стал заморачиваться. Так как некоторые ГМы живут в параллельных вселенных :abyss:
Все (сколько, три?) улики – потом, но своей последней я особенно горжусь, она просто фантастическая. Следите за руками... Следите. В руках у пастора – обглоданная косточка запечённого гуся. На аватарке Карамели – персонаж из God Eater.
Я даже особо не стал ломать голову. То есть, я нашел злодея из Ральфа - гонщика Короля-Карамель(он же Турбо), выяснил, что мотоцикла у него не было, а дальше не стал заморачиваться. Так как некоторые ГМы живут в параллельных вселенных :abyss:
Мотоцикл настолько прямолинейно)) Подпись - слова их песни.
(https://c.radikal.ru/c18/2004/07/bfbeeb8a27de.jpg)
Мотоцикл настолько прямолинейно)) Подпись - слова их песни.
но потом щи обвинил меня в "нелегальных связях с шотландией"
Разве что shiori сразу хотел играть под своим аккаунтом, а я думал немного его подразнить из-под нового, но GM по неосторожности раскрыл мое инкогнито перед shioriМммм, не, Лэйзи, ты сам в чате спалился, когда пнул меня газету разбирать. Я правда не был уверен, что Анон это точно ты, но далее по бурчащему стилю практически уверен стал. А ШЪ вообще-то никак тебя не сливал мне.
Лучше Шотландия, чем Венгрия! Или нет?)
Да, в итоге, из одиннадцати новичков за игрой следили четверо. Но, наверное, это тоже неплохой результат, учитывая все «но» – и отличный, если этим четверым – а ещё и ветеранам – она действительно понравилась :) По крайней мере я получил огромное количество фана за это время. Спасибо всем, кто участвовал и следил! ^_^
Интересно, а кто-нибудь разгадал загадку с shiori, когда он бежал окруженный морем крови? Просто она написана, как мне показалось, с моей небольшой идейной помощью...Я в самом конце уже сформулировал версию, что Шиори убивала не мафия, а он сам себя взрывом.
Мотоцикл настолько прямолинейно)) Подпись - слова их песни.
Не, я люблю гадать хинты. Но я так же понимаю, что это вспомогательное действие, и зачастую можно обойтись и без него. И ситуация выглядела именно такой.
Мммм, не, Лэйзи, ты сам в чате спалился, когда пнул меня газету разбирать. Я правда не был уверен, что Анон это точно ты, но далее по бурчащему стилю практически уверен стал. А ШЪ вообще-то никак тебя не сливал мне.
Ах, самым обидным было осознание в начале игры, что Кара — так-то, мафия, но вот как прикрутить её причастность к убийствам, основываясь на газетах... это был уже другой вопрос, я даже отчаялась на какое-то время. Если бы не то перенаправление к концу игры...А почему просто Мышь не проверила? Ну спалился он марпл, значит, у тебя его чек или данные, или жизнь (или пропуск - но это равно мафии скорее всего, сейчас бы марпл пропускать).
нет, хикару, лучше уж махакам.
А почему просто Мышь не проверила?ну, знаешь, когда тебе в открытую советуют чекать, а не перенаправлять, невольно тянешься к кнопочке "добавить х а о с а". и это была ошибка, тащемта :[
О, это аниме всё еще смотрят?)я помню его со времён своей молодости!
Ты сам спрашивал у Ш. есть ли в игре другие игроки с форума.Я знал, что они есть, но не знал, кто, сколько и под какими масками же.
Кстати, я не знаю как правильно их гадать, поэтому придумала про Марпл/браузер/историю. Как все было красиво в теории Вообще все, что было с момента моей "разгадки" хинта на Марпл - была одна сплошная импровизация в реальном времени. Плана никакого не было, поэтому обвинять/защищаться пришлось сходу. Ну а дальше как уж вышло. То, что победой не пахнет - было понятно когда пол состава были неактивными. Но отыграть до конца в первой игре - скорее дело чести, чем просто сдаться или молча сидеть и ждать финала.Увы, это огромная проблема улик, что играть негом нельзя просто так, надо палится какой-то ролью (а лучше несколькими), и все время держать в голове кем ты выглядишь и какие у тебя были действия (виртуозно - палится двумя-тремя ролями - для разных игроков с разными резами, чтобы не было противоречий).
Ну, это если только у кого-то еще найдутся силы и время для ГМства. Ноша для старичков уже тяжёлая. Да еще те, кто берутся, чаща всего для своего гмского увеселения придумывают настолько замороченные и экспериментальные сеттинги, что от одного взгляда даже у ветеранов уши заворачиваются.
в какой-то момент я даже подумала, что сама игра до конца не доживёт с такой активностью.У меня уже был план по шатдауну, который я был готов запустить в любую минуту. В итоге хватило терпения запустить более умеренный план А по выпилу офферов и дождаться следующего дня. Тут-то всё и наладилось.
настолько замороченные и экспериментальные сеттинги, что от одного взгляда даже у ветеранов уши заворачиваются.Если бы я провёл ещё игру, то именно такую. Возможно, компактную, но какую-нибудь хитрую.
Было бы крайне любопытно попробовать провести что-то подобное, поскольку формат весьма интересный.
было бы интересно, если бы все активные игроки расписали мотивировки своих собственных действий.Согласен. Ещё интересно, если бы каждый отписал (если есть что) по пунктам в конце лога - роли, правила, газеты, ведение и опыт с английским.
, в итоге сразу 2 кила полетели слишком не так, как планировалосьСамое смешное то, что щиори сам предложил такую схему - и сам же на неё напоролся
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обожаю ролплей как таковойТо есть, тебя вряд ли стоит звать в улики (игра по сложности наподобие этой), но с большим шансом пойдешь в антуражную мафию (там правила будут ближе к классике, зато ролеплея вагон и тележка. Ну по крайней мере от тех кто этого хочет, я чаще тактично пережидаю, и врываюсь уже "по делу", с хитрыми планами).
То есть, тебя вряд ли стоит звать в улики (игра по сложности наподобие этой), но с большим шансом пойдешь в антуражную мафию (там правила будут ближе к классике, зато ролеплея вагон и тележка. Ну по крайней мере от тех кто этого хочет, я чаще тактично пережидаю, и врываюсь уже "по делу", с хитрыми планами).
Вообще, было бы интересно, если бы все активные игроки расписали мотивировки своих собственных действий.Как обычно, отстреливал неактивных. И для игры полезнее, и шанс на лечение ниже. Начал с тех, у кого ники с циферками. Не люблю ники с циферками. Между Жулик и Братуха777 выбрал Жулик, тк портвейн надо беречь, даже не португальский. После провала решил, что повторять опасно, и распил "три топора". Успешно. Дальше чудовищно тупанул с Мессором, забыв, как работает перевод, хотя сам же и предложил такую механику. Фейл. Ну и Пирожком-сэмпаем закусил. В общем, посанитарил лес.
Так же, мне кажется, что игрок может отказываться голосовать за кого-то или против кого-то без дополнительных объяснений, так как я уже говорил в теме, что информацию может быть и запрещено сливать, но самому действовать согласно полученной информации логично и естественно.Ну, по идее это всё-таки моветон. По идее ты обязан придумать, как трансформировать доверие/недоверие из личной инфо в оное, вытекающее из публичных данных. Это довольно тонкая грань, тк просто "интуитивно чувствую" не годится. Нужна какая-то аргументация весомее или хотя бы переплетение с публичной инфой, чтобы подразумеваемая ссылка на закрытое инфо не была видна.
100 - 000 / 110 / 101 = Scrooge
000 - * / 010 / 001 + Sweeney, Sherlock, Twist
110 - 010 / * / 111 + Sweeney, Sherlock, Twist + Marple, Jeeves, Alice, LIZ
101 - 001 / 111 / * + Marple, Jeeves, Alice, LIZ
Мэри Cleanup тоже относится к Data actions, так что я засчитал ей наличие положительного ответа на третий вопрос.Хмм, это я тоже как-то просмотрел, а на интуиции чистка не кажется инфо-НД. Ок, тогда 000 единственная опция из 4-ёх в блоке, которую Мэри выбрать не может.
Я решил, что у Поппинс не дата, если что, у нее вообще действий нет на мой взгляд, только командный килл.
12. Can I have a list of Alice's "Action types" for Drink Me?
Of course, there you are.
Life: Hard cash, Headshot, Haircut, November 5th, Overhaul*, Last goodbye, Presentiment, Solidarity, Chifir (50%)
Data: Cleanup, Big Brother*, Yahoo!*, Arms collector*, Solicitude, Drink Me, Turing test
Action: Bribe, Watchdog, Meme, Rabbit Hole, Darjeeling, Assam, Chifir (50%)
Communication: Intimidation, Authority. When the marked (*) abilities fulfill Traits' requirements (Old Guard, Old foe), they're also seen as Communication actions.
Mimicry: no permanent type. It is seen of the type that was mimed by Orlando, Example: Orlando mimes Solicitude, then Alice checks Orlando and gets the "Data" result because Solicitude is a Data-type Action.
Так же, мне кажется, что игрок может отказываться голосовать за кого-то или против кого-то без дополнительных объяснений, так как я уже говорил в теме, что информацию может быть и запрещено сливать, но самому действовать согласно полученной информации логично и естественно. Неестественно и плохо - кричать "верьте мне >_<" и призывать голосовать так же, как и ты.Тут дело тонкое. Голос – это хоть действие, но действие публичное. Так что это одновременно и заявление. По обоснованию – можно 10 раз подряд заявить: "лично я уверен, что он маф и поэтому голосую так", а можно один раз заявить "я уверен, что он маф, давайте его повесим". Мне кажется, что как минимум спорно в таком случае, что считать большим намёком на личную информацию.
ЗЫ. И я не заметил авторского объяснения хинтов!Ну и как оно теперь? :teeth:
О Боже Мой Это Что Ссылки На Прекрасные Аудиокомпозиции Прямо В Комментариях О Мой ГусьВ логе (в конкретном месте) осталась пара Hidden Tracks. Где?
Также ждал от него встречной контратаки, допуская, что он и есть блокер, и возможно, мирный блокер (реакция на подозрения вполне естественна).Мне кажется, ты мог тут немного просчитаться, т.к. слишком многого ждал от новичков, ещё и одиночек, ещё и офферов. Не уверен, что они вообще особо размышляли о механике предложек (БМП почему Сэмпай отказался, на самом деле). Тем более чтобы делали какие-то сложные выводы и реализовали их в теме. Что очень жаль, конечно.
Но я неверно представлял механику удвоения.Кстати, мне именно такая механика больше нравится. Во-первых – как видим, неосторожные игроки могут просчитаться. Во-вторых – динамичное изменение цели, это весело и разнообразно. В-третьих – я раньше пробовал делать переводы с известной целью, и это слишком жирно. Если человек перевёл Х на Y и с Y что-то случилось в газете или он как-то раскрывает результаты ночи, то переводчик почти наверняка узнаёт роль X. А так получался баланс: либо Алиса что-то узнаёт, либо что-то делает (с малой обратной информацией). Я даже удивился, что эту способность можно было трактовать иначе. Наверное, поэтому и не подумал прояснить этот момент.
Как же приятно было чекать топики по сто раз на дню, пребывать в адовом ожидании результатов и трястись из-за хинтов! Мне кажется, я за всю жизнь столько раз не нажимала "F5", как за этот месяцМне кажется, через это прошёл каждый мафиозо (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSnABcDg4t8) xD2 Игра имеет свойство буквально порабощать мозг.
мои скудные познания в английском,Я бы сказал, что лучший скилл английского у Карамели с небольшим отставанием Мыша. Затем – щиори и пастор, мб с небольшим отставанием Сью. Затем остальные активные, а затем v o i d
Хмм, это я тоже как-то просмотрел, а на интуиции чистка не кажется инфо-НД.Так же, как защита и убийство – это две стороны Life (+Life и -Life), так же и чистка информации из газеты – это Data.
потому что изначальным была "попытка убийства", то есть неважно успешная или нет.Кстати, на этот момент ты мог бы указать. Наверное, я бы почётче обозначил «попытку» в финальном вопросе, т.к. пытался отцензурировать я не её, а другую побочную информацию. Но в целом все примерно так всё и поняли, слава богу.
Когда читаешь "прямоугольный крошечный кусочек тёмной ткани", то о тканой полоске никак не подумаешь. Там долже был бы быть скорее термин узкий, а не крошечный.Я тоже так подумал, когда уже писал лог. Не хватило уточняющего прилагательного. Но в принципе мне этот хинт нравится – т.к. первый, на мана, с заделом на будущее. Мне интересны комментарии по остальным.
Да-да, "тринадцатикратно", "отзовитесь, горнисты" - я про это. Слишком много отсылок и возможных толкований.Я не лез в профили и оперировал только информацией, которую видно в теме (ник, аватар, подпись и статус).
На самом деле все вышло очень прикольно Я получил много полезного опыта в этой игре. Мне было лишь обидно, что мои изначальные вопросы порезали, потому что изначальным была "попытка убийства", то есть неважно успешная или нет. Если бы этот вопрос вышел в сеть, то shiori пришлось бы врать на него, так как попытку к убийству, пусть и неудачную он совершал. Второй пул вопросов должен был быть адресован Ураниуму, а третий Кара мели. Дело в том, что я буквально чувствовал, что Кара - мафия, а с ней на мой взгляд на тот момент, был уран, по одной простой причине - Кара активно защищала Урана и наоборот. Это мне и показалось подозрительным... Будто Кара хотела выкинуть все неучтенные факторы - игроков, которых она не знает так же хорошо, как Урана. Большой ошибкой города было то, что он не прислушался к моим словам про Кару, исключая финальной ночи.
Вообще, разбиение НД по типам было показано еще до игры в FAQ, что Шьё указал мне, когда я его теребил по этому поводу. Так что при своем разборе я упирался именно в список -Угадай кто просил добавить этот список, когда прочитал действие алисы еще до старта. Я даже специально пастору его дублировал, на всякий случай, потому что тут далеко не все интуитивно понятно. Он мутный из-за звездочек на коммуникацию, потому я не считал его годным для вопросов. В нем даже выстрела мафии нет! (хотя понятно, что жизнь, но именно из-за этого и непонятно как для вопроса будет засчитан ход поппинс).
Угадай кто просил добавить этот список, когда прочитал действие алисы еще до старта.
если он мафия, то я таким образом смогу подловить кого-нибудь из неопытных игроков на его защитеЭто вряд ли. Скорее всего неопытным игрокам я бы дал установки что примерно им делать, и адвокатство для меня в них вряд ли войдет.
Роли 8/10 - баланс уехал в сторону города, мафия изначально была в роли догоняющего. Мафия боится всего - блока, перевода, защит, защит от Шерлока.Тут я согласен. В тот момент когда я решил, что город конечно сильнее, но ровно настолько, чтобы сбалансировать пассивность новичков (чем больше опыт, тем сильнее игра за город - ну просто потому что практики городской игры вдвое больше в среднем), которая обязательно будет, я не знал что защиты будут в явном виде отображаться в газете. Знал бы - попросил мафии что-то еще.
Проблема в том, что я не планировал умирать :) Тут такая тонкая грань, если бы я оспаривал то, что ЛИЗ мертва, то меня легко могла убить мафия, так как я не знал, что половина мафии умерла. И причем убить довольно быстро. Если бы я выжил, то я бы опроверг новость о собственной смерти просто интервью в газете.А если все игроки поверят в мертвую лиз, то следующее интервью думаешь тебя не спалит, единственного кто молчал?
баланс уехал в сторону города, мафия изначально была в роли догоняющего. Мафия боится всего - блока, перевода, защит, защит от Шерлока.Полностью согласен. Думаю, это оттого, что мне хотелось сразу показать новые роли (относительно салонной: телохранитель, переводчик), не жертвуя традициями (док, блокер). И «ну раньше-то работало». Только я не учёл, что «раньше» это работало с 20+ ролями, двумя бандами, парой маньяков и т. п.
я не знал что защиты будут в явном виде отображаться в газете. Знал бы - попросил мафии что-то еще.Кстати, ещё один случай «борьбы традиций». В отчаянных попытках вспомнить как ГМить я просто посмотрел свои предыдущие игры, включая последнюю «собственную» (самую удачную, наверное) и, в общем-то, без изменений взял оттуда газеты. И репортёров, и разбитие информации на блоки – и описание неудачных покушений. Может быть, это было в порядке вещей и от этого уже давно отказались, но я был просто не в курсе. Ну ты понял.
Я тоже так подумал, когда уже писал лог. Не хватило уточняющего прилагательного. Но в принципе мне этот хинт нравится – т.к. первый, на мана, с заделом на будущее. Мне интересны комментарии по остальным.
Я даже сказал ШЪ об этом, что-то как-то нехорошо получается, как народ анализировать будет, если даже вопросы не понимает, но совсем уж рвать тельняху и вопить "Давай меня сольём!" тоже было бы не комильфо.Ну, тут такое дело – сходу очень мощно прошлись по маньяку. А весь газетный стиль как бы просит быть порасплывчатей. Как я указал в логе, некоторые формулировки вышли чересчур туманными, но однозначная трактовка под ними подразумевалась и в целом в итоге была понята.
В логе (в конкретном месте) осталась пара Hidden Tracks. Где?
Хотел бы услышать общие оценочные комментарии по игре, в первую очередь критические. Если есть что – несите.
...где? В конце?..В интерлюдии (:
В интерлюдии (:
Хотел бы услышать общие оценочные комментарии по игре, в первую очередь критические. Если есть что – несите.Ну, для меня главным бичом была, как бы странно это ни прозвучало — многословность активных игроков.
То есть, на самом деле финальная 4-ка — просто красавчики без вопросов, снимаю шляпу.
Согласен)То есть, на самом деле финальная 4-ка — просто красавчики без вопросов, снимаю шляпу.
Да если б мы за кирпичики продолжали голосовать, то Карамель-тян весьма вероятно пару штук отхватила бы за эту игру - "Лучший дебют" и "Корлеоне", я считаю, запросто.
Извиняюсь за модкил, эх не вовремя я заболел короновирусомВоу! Ну, с поправочкой тогда. Начал ты бодро)