London, 2077

[l10ha]

While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.

I thought something, Moro doesn’t roll either. Scrooge comes up, but it's too good to be true.
In the city, either no one fits, or you can pull half of the city.
In order:
Marple - definitely not, well, which of the businesswise detectives.
Sherlock is a doctor of medicine. Yes, somehow, too, no, medicine is certainly a business, and in this regard it is possible to pull, but it is.
The Beagle is definitely not there, in the newspaper there is nothing like a reflected counterattack.
Robin is a cybernet, all things. He can be known outside, but this can only be guessed at.
Jeeves fits relatively. Served by the rich is not quite something, although you can pull it.
Oliver would not have died from a maniac’s bullet so quickly (except for a very rare case, when two flew into him yesterday, and today is finishing it). In a vacum, it does not stretch well on the proletariat.
Alice is a hostess in a bar, such a businessman.
Griffin is invisible, he hardly has such a reputation as described.
Liz journalist, you can pull, but we understand that, most likely, this is Sue.
Orlando who copied Scrooge. Well, perhaps it was only unlikely that he was copying the ignore of the block, and hardly so generous as to heal not himself. And in this case, he could die only if he was prevented by the block-transfer. What cannot be ruled out.

You see errors in the reasoning - let us know while Scrooge / Orlando is the most likely victim, if I at least understand something in the descriptions, but we will still play from 4 mafia - safety precautions.

at his home, beside the desktop

This is another indirect confirmation.
But I still want to hear any other options. Killed mafia is too easy.

t's so hard to read. it feels like I watched the program about the secret conspiracies of the Maason. what about senpai? he came, wrote something about death and left. isn't it strange behavior?

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen! But a good day will be when I read our love .. Oh my god .. Sue .. I have known her since childhood .. my goodness! My best durg Bratuha777! Lord, how did this happen? .. I swear to God that I will find everyone who did this to them I will turn them into a miserable semblance of dog food! 

oh and about black material
it feels like he's getting nervous.
this player’s activity was zero in this thread and it doesn’t cause me any confidence

[pastor chivay]

t's so hard to read. it feels like I watched the program about the secret conspiracies of the Maason. what about senpai? he came, wrote something about death and left. isn't it strange behavior?

it is. you know why? he didn't notice

anyways, there's nothing to discuss — the only one who directly connected with business was Scrooge. such fast death, but I can't see any alternative options. you may correct me ofc

oh and about black material
it feels like he's getting nervous.
this player’s activity was zero in this thread and it doesn’t cause me any confidence

more like an attempt to defuse the discussion with jokes and somehow fit in, not sure that is too serious for him. but he's gone again

[l10ha]

it is. you know why? he didn't notice

anyways, there's nothing to discuss — the only one who directly connected with business was Scrooge. such fast death, but I can't see any alternative options. you may correct me ofc
 
more like an attempt to defuse the discussion with jokes and somehow fit in, not sure that is too serious for him. but he's gone again

No, my dear partner, you are all right. I am sure that he is dead.

it is. you know why? he didn't notice

anyways, there's nothing to discuss — the only one who directly connected with business was Scrooge. such fast death, but I can't see any alternative options. you may correct me ofc
 
more like an attempt to defuse the discussion with jokes and somehow fit in, not sure that is too serious for him. but he's gone again

well, I should have any reason to hang. I took any and pulled her. don't take it seriously

[pastor chivay]

well, I should have any reason to hang. I took any and pulled her. don't take it seriously

don't hang yourself! You still have a big deal in this world, Goose

[l10ha]

well, I should have any reason to hang. I took any and pulled her. don't take it seriously

don't hang yourself! You still have a big deal in this world, Goose

time-terrible thing! they will defeat me! I want to find a reason to hang sampai!

[Drusha]

So... This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed. About Kara mel facts I do not know what could i say about. On one hand on Uranium we have some evidences, on the other hand - we have not absolute sure about him. Perhaps somebody has another facts or assumtions or hypothesis?

[pastor chivay]

So... This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed. About Kara mel facts I do not know what could i say about. On one hand on Uranium we have some evidences, on the other hand - we have not absolute sure about him. Perhaps somebody has another facts or assumtions or hypothesis?

what evidences do you have? I did not see something that could point on him. or do you mean that Kara's post?

[Kara_Mel]

what evidences do you have? I did not see something that could point on him. or do you mean that Kara's post?

My post is not for evidence, but for understanding the logic behind hints. But facts I showed there are real.

[pastor chivay]

what evidences do you have? I did not see something that could point on him. or do you mean that Kara's post?

My post is not for evidence, but for understanding the logic behind hints. But facts I showed there are real.

I understood this and I am not sure that Drusha too, that's why I asked him

[Kara_Mel]

01.  pastor chivay - he gave a very quick analysis of the interview and became looking like a confident guy (not a lost lamb). I have a little bit of idea who he might be, so I'll paint him red.

I thought that Pastor is LIZ, due to his quick and very precise analysis of the interview - I decided that he was the man, who wrote it. But if we got it right and Sue was LIZ - it's not working.

[pastor chivay]

I thought that Pastor is LIZ, due to his quick and very precise analysis of the interview - I decided that he was the man, who wrote it. But if we got it right and Sue was LIZ - it's not working.

So what do you think now?

[Anony-mouse]

Okay, some thoughts on today's newspaper. There were more, but some were lost in the process.

The first report is of particular peculiarity. Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features. Nothing was touched in the room; Schotland Yard has not a single assumption of what might have caused such a malignant and terrible contortion. Sue was deeply loved by many of us, and this loss will be deeply mourned.

There are two hints that Sue is a journalist. This is also indicated by the absence of an interview - the prevailing practice of the mafia to kill and block at the same time.

Why was Sue killed?

1) she is an active player. Such players are dangerous for the mafia.

2) She was under suspicion of Uranus - players under suspicion have less chance of help arriving. I do not blame Uranus, as I myself suggested that doctors / guards visit Julik1221. This is just a fact.

3) She actively resisted the hang. The mafia could assume either that Sue is a maniac, or that she has an important city's role. And she had one of the most important city's roles.

4)An important point. To quote Sue:

I want to speak out too. I think that members of the game not activ already now. Let's eliminate !today! a player who didn't write something. If he isn't activ now i think he won't activ in future. Falcon hunting wrote something in begining of the party. I10ha even more so.
I suggest Dmixn, Putin mod.2, Bratuxa777, Julik1221, SamPie or InVictA

The mafia has this property - it is objectively difficult for them to write a lot. In fact, the average mafia player writes very little. It takes them a lot of time just to plan their atrocities. They really have no much time to write in the subject.
More experienced players can write a lot, but here we have players who are mostly inexperienced.

Therefore, Sue’s proposal was very unpleasant for them. I do not risk anything if I say that there are at least two mafiosi on the Sue list, and I take very little risk if I say that there are three of them.
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The second case seems to be more obvious—but more graphic. Do not let your younglings read it! The body of Bratuxa777 was found in the morning, again, at his home, beside the desktop. Layers of blood all over the room that were present, together with the victim's scalp (that was absent), were signs strong enough for even Scotland Yard to grasp exactly what happened this time. What still bewilders the tecs, though, is the tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape, found under the table. While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.

What attracts interest in this description? Desktop - we have two roles of Internet hackers. Hyde and Christopher Robin. There is also Miss Marple, but I suspect there would have been a hint of crossword puzzles there.

The second hint, yes, I agree - buissnesswise.
Mafia. Cosa Nostra. Literally "Our Business" in Italian.

And one more option - Mr. Jekyll and Dr. Hyde may just be relate to - "personally and businesswise".

The maniac, it seems, also believes that members of the mafia should be sought among the most silent.

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Well, then we have news about large-scale data leaks. Apparently, the mafiosi managed to find one of the old foes - Marple or Sherlock. And this means that there is only one option left for the formation of an city group.
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We can also try to solve the hint on a maniac. Just keep in mind that here, most likely, everything is important - and that is dark, and that is rectangular, and that is tiny ...

In general, a description of what it can be at all?

[shiori]

The first report is of particular peculiarity. Sue Sharlin was found at her armchair. On her rigid face there stood a mixed expression of horror and surprise, such as has never been seen upon human features. Nothing was touched in the room; Schotland Yard has not a single assumption of what might have caused such a malignant and terrible contortion. Sue was deeply loved by many of us, and this loss will be deeply mourned.

The first kill is made by gang. The killer could be either Scrooge with weapon capitalism or jekyll001 with none weapon. But I do not see any hint, so the killer is Mary with cleanup. It is hard to determine the role of victim. Armchair and rigid face — strongly associated with Miss Marple for me. Or Biggles but he has veteran ability.

The second case seems to be more obvious—but more graphic. Do not let your younglings read it! The body of Bratuxa777 was found in the morning, again, at his home, beside the desktop. Layers of blood all over the room that were present, together with the victim's scalp (that was absent), were signs strong enough for even Scotland Yard to grasp exactly what happened this time. What still bewilders the tecs, though, is the tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape, found under the table. While not losing hope for solving this mystery, we offer deepest condolences to everyone who knew Bratuxa both personally and businesswise.

The maniac's kill. The hint is "tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape". Victim was found near desktop, so it could be Miss Marple again, but she has laptop, not desktop, or Chris. Also Scrooge and Jekyll can match.

We can see that Fergus Fume is the murders' author. So George E. G. Watt looks like the author which describe other night events. It is hard to say precisely but nomenklatura and red tape draw to thoughts about Oliver. But I can not connect his potential actions with public events. He is the defender but there was not any defense this night. Also article write about large-scale data leaks. It can be some important checks. Maybe from gang because of counterbalancing with prols. Overall mood of the article is pessimistic. Maybe it means that both victims were citizens.

And there is no interview from Liz. It can be block from Jekyll, Chris, Griffin and Orlando.

[pastor chivay]

Anony-mouse

,
Wow, did not expect
Great analysis of newspaper btw

 About businesswise — yep, seems that victim was Scrooge. That's fun actually.

I also have some thoughts about "large-scale data leaks". That's interesting. It was second night and as we know, one of Robin's passive actions is "White hat", which give him information about the role or name of the player who visited him at night. As it was even night, then, obviously, someone visited him and he knew who. Maybe it was mafia. Alternative - Hyde checked the Mrs Marple, as somebody

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told me

said.

[shiori]

Still alive (13):

And let the music begins!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

[shiori]

The close of mine is actually green, but it could not be seen too well in the small picture. It's possible, that it's dark of some sort, but I always thought about it as a green.

Wanted to say "Like for avatar!"  But I prefer this art more:

[Anony-mouse]

time-terrible thing! they will defeat me! I want to find a reason to hang sampai!

In general, his post looks as if he was kicked in maf-chat - write at least something.

[shiori]

First version about the hint.

tiny piece of dark cloth, rectangular in shape

Tartan is the cloth with rectangular pattern and symbol of Scotland. The people of Scotland are poetically the Highlanders.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnJt9p-sHho

And. Mahakam from Witcher setting is the mountain state. The bond between scottish & mahakamian highlands is not very solid, but this could be a hypothesis that the hint points to mahakamian Chivay.

[Kara_Mel]

I thought that Pastor is LIZ, due to his quick and very precise analysis of the interview - I decided that he was the man, who wrote it. But if we got it right and Sue was LIZ - it's not working.

So what do you think now?

I think, that you have a sharp mind, but not red now. Very close to it, but not fully.

The close of mine is actually green, but it could not be seen too well in the small picture. It's possible, that it's dark of some sort, but I always thought about it as a green.

Wanted to say "Like for avatar!"  But I prefer this art more:

This art is definitely better, but when I've chosen avatar (and I use it at the full length at one forum) there were 2 problems:
1. Too wide;
2. Didn't found with transparent background;


Also, I like the pose on my current avatar, such cocky over the shoulder look.

time-terrible thing! they will defeat me! I want to find a reason to hang sampai!

In general, his post looks as if he was kicked in maf-chat - write at least something.

Nice analysis, now you're not silent and definitely growing up in my list.

I have told about Goose all previous day, that he writes something, but not useful. And I was told to stop by Uranium.

[Kara_Mel]

Armchair and rigid face — strongly associated with Miss Marple for me. Or Biggles but he has veteran ability.

But there is also a more specific phrase "has never been seen upon human features" that tells us the Sue was not human and there is no interview. It's really hard to say something else besides LIZ was Sue.
Technically there is another not human - Mary Poppins (probably a cyborg), but then she must be killed by a maniac or she had no protection and got shot by Biggles. How big chances that interview could be blocked and Sue is not a LIZ? Imho it's a bit surrealistic.

[shiori]

But there is also a more specific phrase "has never been seen upon human features" that tells us the Sue was not human and there is no interview. It's really hard to say something else besides LIZ was Sue.

I analyze paper at first usually to have not impact from thoughts of others. Now the version with victim-LIZ looks better than mine.

[pastor chivay]

Tartan is the cloth with rectangular pattern and symbol of Scotland. The people of Scotland are poetically the Highlanders.

Good interpretation
But it is not said that this piece of cloth has a pattern or something else, it's dark. I searched this, and Scotland's tartan is often different, but the main color scheme is saturated. As for me it's important, this would simplify the search for real. Anyways, "Tiny piece of dark cloth" is too general, so it can be attributed to anything, as I compared this to Kara's profile picture and made a mistake. Regarding to Mahakam — it can be compared to other mountain countries. It’s too hypothetical and indirect comparison, because Scotland and the Mahakam are completely different things, even if they seem similar. You can match this two countries, although there's no such direct resemblance to Scotland (as you said), except mountain range and highlanders

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the strongest argument - there's no dwarves in Scotland!

[You take a sip of Dwarven Spirit]

[Anony-mouse]

In general, today we have one question - should we risk hanging some of the silent. One or two mafiosi among them are. I do not think that mafiosi will take risks to hang someone, with a living maniac and a veteran. However, there is some risk that one of the town's newcomers may leave a vote and we will have an unwanted hanged man.

[shiori]

I do not like both silent players and verbose players, so it is a good idea.

[Kara_Mel]

This time I'll divide all the player to active and inactive and give my overview as follow:


Active:

01.  pastor chivay - as I told - thought that he is LIZ, but now it's clear, that he is not. But still, he is a way to active for the mafia and mostly logical and consistently sharp-minded. I don't think, that new player will play in such a style for the mafia. Almost red.
05.  l10ha - most of his babbling is useless but tried to proclaim me as a mafia based on the outfit of my avatar and that is really nice move, giving him much more credit. While he's having fun with Pastor - Pastor is still far more trustworthy. Really strange, that Uranium235 said not to argue with the Goose. Ok, this day I will not show any disrespect to his way of playing. Color: under Uranium235 defense.
06.  Falcon hunting - seems, that a midnight wanderer will be right alias to him, as he never wrote anything useful during the day and by that avoided all possible debates. Ash-colored
07.  shiori - one thing I like about him, as he gave his analysis before reading the most popular vision in the topic. If it hasn't been done deliberately - that is the town player trait. I still see him as close to red.
14.  Anony-mouse - changed his playstyle from "let me be a selfish bystander" to "let's make the analysis great again". It's a sudden change, almost as if he wants to take the lead over the Uranium235. With such a sudden change is more black.
15.  Uranium235 - showed a complicated way of hint-solving, so this should be the town player, as from the mafia point of view - there is nothing better for the town to follow the wrong way by themselves. Red.




This section can be called as "fifty shades of gray", and it would be 100% correct. How is it even possible to analyze inactive players? For me, it's much easier to find reasoning against an active player, rather than against inactive, but still, I'll give it a try.

Almost purely inactive:
02.  Dmixn - one hi and nothing more. Inactive today and not interest in a game. I believe, that such players should be kicked out by the host, not by the town.
12.  InVictA - not active since the 15th of April, so he has no interest in his NA.
10.  Julik1221 - never wrote anything, but mentioned in the analysis once. Have no idea what to think about him.
11.  SamPie - one post and it's too much for entry. Tiny darker than gray.

Voted:
03.  Putin mod.2 - voted for No one, so he has some interest and doesn't want to be thought about him as inactive.
08.  Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.


In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that  Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.

[l10ha]

This time I'll divide all the player to active and inactive and give my overview as follow:


Active:

01.  pastor chivay - as I told - thought that he is LIZ, but now it's clear, that he is not. But still, he is a way to active for the mafia and mostly logical and consistently sharp-minded. I don't think, that new player will play in such a style for the mafia. Almost red.
05.  l10ha - most of his babbling is useless but tried to proclaim me as a mafia based on the outfit of my avatar and that is really nice move, giving him much more credit. While he's having fun with Pastor - Pastor is still far more trustworthy. Really strange, that Uranium235 said not to argue with the Goose. Ok, this day I will not show any disrespect to his way of playing. Color: under Uranium235 defense.
06.  Falcon hunting - seems, that a midnight wanderer will be right alias to him, as he never wrote anything useful during the day and by that avoided all possible debates. Ash-colored
07.  shiori - one thing I like about him, as he gave his analysis before reading the most popular vision in the topic. If it hasn't been done deliberately - that is the town player trait. I still see him as close to red.
14.  Anony-mouse - changed his playstyle from "let me be a selfish bystander" to "let's make the analysis great again". It's a sudden change, almost as if he wants to take the lead over the Uranium235. With such a sudden change is more black.
15.  Uranium235 - showed a complicated way of hint-solving, so this should be the town player, as from the mafia point of view - there is nothing better for the town to follow the wrong way by themselves. Red.




This section can be called as "fifty shades of gray", and it would be 100% correct. How is it even possible to analyze inactive players? For me, it's much easier to find reasoning against an active player, rather than against inactive, but still, I'll give it a try.

Almost purely inactive:
02.  Dmixn - one hi and nothing more. Inactive today and not interest in a game. I believe, that such players should be kicked out by the host, not by the town.
12.  InVictA - not active since the 15th of April, so he has no interest in his NA.
10.  Julik1221 - never wrote anything, but mentioned in the analysis once. Have no idea what to think about him.
11.  SamPie - one post and it's too much for entry. Tiny darker than gray.

Voted:
03.  Putin mod.2 - voted for No one, so he has some interest and doesn't want to be thought about him as inactive.
08.  Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.


In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that  Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.

I want to note that uranium did not say that it is protecting me. he said stop looking for each other's suspicions. don’t you see that I’ve been trying to say something important for two days now? the more often you try to offend me, the dumber my messages become.

[Kara_Mel]

I want to note that uranium did not say that it is protecting me. he said stop looking for each other's suspicions. don’t you see that I’ve been trying to say something important for two days now? the more often you try to offend me, the dumber my messages become.

It's passive patronage, considering I was suspecting you - and he told to stop.

[l10ha]

I want to note that uranium did not say that it is protecting me. he said stop looking for each other's suspicions. don’t you see that I’ve been trying to say something important for two days now? the more often you try to offend me, the dumber my messages become.

It's passive patronage, considering I was suspecting you - and he told to stop.

suspect me as much as you like. I said everything in the last message. and about empty messages too.

[Drusha]

08.  Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.


In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that  Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.

Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions.  So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...

[l10ha]

Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions.  So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...

the first thing I would hang you with. uranium is an understandable person. get rid of inactive = the best thing to do