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hunting death tonight was expected. attack on shiori is a very interesting choice, until this night I was sure that he was a mafia or a maniac. but now I think he can be an oliver, but he cannot be killed the first time. and I think that he can be a sherlock. he could cure himself, or he fell into the pit of Alice. I was sure that the mafia and maniac would kill inactive, but now it doesn’t work like that. Now I think the mouse is a maniac. I have't  read what he wrote on the forum, but  tactics dont hang, it confuses. he writes too carefully, trying not to hurt anyone. suspiciously that's all.

    Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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    until this night I was sure that he was a mafia or a maniac.

    Why? I have already analyzed his interview. And there was only one option with the mafia and six options with the townspeople. And not a single option with a maniac. If someone else offers his own version of the analysis of the interview, then I would read it with interest.

    and I think that he can be a sherlock.

    Sherlock was Drusha because of "meatbag remark". It is well known meme. The Bender robot from Futurama, as well as the HK-47 robot killer from the KOTOR computer game, often used this expression. We had two robots in the game, and the first one(LIZ Bennet - Sue) was killed even earlier. So, Drusha was Sherlock.

    I was sure that the mafia and maniac would kill inactive, but now it doesn’t work like that.

    The mafia almost never kills the inactive first, the mafia hides among them. A maniac seeks to maintain balance. He has already killed one mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion), so now, perhaps, he will try to kill one of the townspeople.

    Now I think the mouse is a maniac.

     :hypno: I'm not a maniac.

      Оффлайн Uranium235

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      Well, since Shiori is so peaceful, even if he calls the candidate.
      My opinion is already known. Since the mafia can be four, amateur activity is not particularly permissible.
      I also do not want to wait for the candidate again until the stop so that it is impossible to discuss the consequences.
      So either in the near future he will be from Shiori, or we vote with me, or we lose in silence, I have no way to pull bags of stones now (including Goose, too, because the Mouse is easily a maniac / Orlando and so I know, speak out at the expense of peaceful and the mafia).

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          Оффлайн Uranium235

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          Goose, with whom is Mouse in the team? And if he is a maniac, then you are voting at the wrong address, not knowing the number of the living mafia to get rid of him an absurd decision.

          Pastor, let's get involved in the discussion too. The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good, but you have to decide on blacks.

          mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion)
          Based on what you deduced it?
          For me, so if Bratukha is a maf, then Scrooge, because business.
          Of course, there is a twofold phrase there, the desktop, which may also apply to the virtual table - but taking as its basis it is becoming difficult for the mafia to approve.
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            The explanation on Messor’s account didn’t come in handy for me.
            A message about the fact of modkill is below, separately, that is, duplication of information comes out.
            And the Rogue has about 50% that he was the target of killing the mafia if the defense worked. It is possible to ignore this fact only if you know that the maniac did this murder, and now think about who has this knowledge?

            Mouse, you say that it’s not a maniac, I suppose I believe.
            the only mafia kill we have in the not-so-powerful Sue writer is to argue that the mafia does not fire inactive assets. Yes, on the first night there were half of them, not to mention the fact that they had much less chance of having protection or a check from guests.
            Now anyone can consider Goose as a blocker who was with you and interrupted the kill, therefore the shooter suspects.
            So will you use these suspicions to campaign in Julik?

            It is dangerous to allow such assumptions, not being a maniac in fact, you find?

              Оффлайн l10ha

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              Goose, with whom is Mouse in the team? And if he is a maniac, then you are voting at the wrong address, not knowing the number of the living mafia to get rid of him an absurd decision.

              Pastor, let's get involved in the discussion too. The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good, but you have to decide on blacks.

              mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion)
              Based on what you deduced it?
              For me, so if Bratukha is a maf, then Scrooge, because business.
              Of course, there is a twofold phrase there, the desktop, which may also apply to the virtual table - but taking as its basis it is becoming difficult for the mafia to approve.
              idk it’s strange that the julik is still alive. that the mouse tried to protect her at the beginning of the second night. so I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.


                Оффлайн Uranium235

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                idk it’s strange that the julik is still alive. that the mouse tried to protect her at the beginning of the second night. so I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.
                And why does he vote him?
                (if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)

                But if you have no explanation for Mouse’s voice, Goose, then you issued the most illogical statement that it is a sign of the mafia. It would be better to find him.
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                  Day 3 Exit Poll

                  (1): Uranium235
                  (1): Anony-mouse
                  (1): l10ha

                  No vote (8): , , , , , , ,


                  Deadline WED 2 AM. 14 hours left.

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                    l10ha
                    just for fun

                      Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                      Goose, with whom is Mouse in the team? And if he is a maniac, then you are voting at the wrong address, not knowing the number of the living mafia to get rid of him an absurd decision.

                      Pastor, let's get involved in the discussion too. The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good, but you have to decide on blacks.

                      mafia(jekiil-hyde in my opinion)
                      Based on what you deduced it?
                      For me, so if Bratukha is a maf, then Scrooge, because business.
                      Of course, there is a twofold phrase there, the desktop, which may also apply to the virtual table - but taking as its basis it is becoming difficult for the mafia to approve.

                      Because of desktop. Internet-hacker. And "business wise" - "our business" - "Cosa nostra". I had explained it before.
                      And today I'm very busy myself, so i can't write many.

                        Оффлайн pastor chivay

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                        The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good
                        Yes it is you should try it too!


                        but you have to decide on blacks.
                        Anony-mouse's behavior is really strange, but I don't really think that he is maniac. Not sure if GM was looked on his profile picture and description and while cheery yelling just: "HELL YEAH HE WILL BE TODD YA KNOW GUY HAWKS WHEHEEE". Anyway, I don't think that he is peaceful for now and for me he closely to mafia, but if so then he probably someone without weapon like Hyde or Moreau

                        And why does he vote him?
                        (if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)

                        First I wanted to say that is cheating maneuver, but then realized that is too risky for mafia do such things. And not sure that if Julik really mafia, but if so - then he is just like ballast in his team. I more prefer version where SamPie the mafia too and that's the reason why Anony-mouse abstained from voting for him


                        l10ha
                        just for fun
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                        haha mafia so funny game lmao just for lulz
                        I don't understand why you maintain such sluggisn activity with no arguments and still play
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                          Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                           :face: I think it's making my choice clear. "Just for fun" is not the reason. He definitely wants to stay in-game, but his play gives nothing.

                          In any active scenario, I would prefer to lynch any of Goose/Mouse and depending on the results play with the other, but now I see dreary option playing only with a silent player with no reasoning. That's why my choice is Putin.

                          Putin mod.2
                          I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                          I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                            Оффлайн l10ha

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                            idk it’s strange that the julik is still alive. that the mouse tried to protect her at the beginning of the second night. so I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.
                            And why does he vote him?
                            (if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)

                            But if you have no explanation for Mouse’s voice, Goose, then you issued the most illogical statement that it is a sign of the mafia. It would be better to find him.
                            how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.



                            The newspaper and the flood in another topic is certainly good
                            Yes it is you should try it too!


                            but you have to decide on blacks.
                            Anony-mouse's behavior is really strange, but I don't really think that he is maniac. Not sure if GM was looked on his profile picture and description and while cheery yelling just: "HELL YEAH HE WILL BE TODD YA KNOW GUY HAWKS WHEHEEE". Anyway, I don't think that he is peaceful for now and for me he closely to mafia, but if so then he probably someone without weapon like Hyde or Moreau

                            And why does he vote him?
                            (if anything, I come up with an explanation for this phenomenon, but I want to listen to yours)

                            First I wanted to say that is cheating maneuver, but then realized that is too risky for mafia do such things. And not sure that if Julik really mafia, but if so - then he is just like ballast in his team. I more prefer version where SamPie the mafia too and that's the reason why Anony-mouse abstained from voting for him


                            l10ha
                            just for fun
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                            haha mafia so funny game lmao just for lulz
                            I don't understand why you maintain such sluggisn activity with no arguments and still play
                            hope you are hanged just for fun :flush:

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                              Оффлайн Uranium235

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                              how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.
                              I ask, on the basis of which you brought Mouse and Julik together with the mafia, given the Mouse's voice against the Julik.
                              And I really do not like the fact that you chose not to understand this question so as not to answer it.
                              A new attempt, and my patience is not unlimited.
                              I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.


                              What I am observing now is silent horror.
                              Do you understand such a thing as joint voting?
                              Campaign do not understand.
                              Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.
                              Explain to me why the Sampai lynch is bad, that you refuse to support him?
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                                Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                ,  I also put forward the theory that "personal and buisenesslike" might allude to the double essence of Jekyll Hyde. "The strange story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" - Mr. is just a personal, neutral treatment, but the "doctor" is already talking about a certain position occupied by a person.
                                Well, I will have time at late evening for any questions. But earlier - hardly I can.

                                  Оффлайн l10ha

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                                  how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.
                                  I ask, on the basis of which you brought Mouse and Julik together with the mafia, given the Mouse's voice against the Julik.
                                  And I really do not like the fact that you chose not to understand this question so as not to answer it.
                                  A new attempt, and my patience is not unlimited.
                                  I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.


                                  What I am observing now is silent horror.
                                  Do you understand such a thing as joint voting?
                                  Campaign do not understand.
                                  Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.
                                  Explain to me why the Sampai lynch is bad, that you refuse to support him?
                                  I repeat again. I wrote above why I consider them in one team. I’m sorry that I read all your essays, and you can’t even read a small message. but I will repeat it again especially for you. I consider them on the same team, because after the attack on Julik, the mouse asked  to cure him, the next day he did not vote for him right away. after the comments he voted. maybe he did it because he thought no one would kill a julika? since then a new victim, drusha, appeared. then all abruptly departed from the identity of the julik and switched to drushu. so clear?


                                    Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                    Pastor, can you explain to me what is happening.
                                    I see all four of those who voted after me as those still leaders, because each of them leads his own line, without regard to the rest.
                                    Everyone needs a discussion, and I don’t watch it the second day.

                                      Оффлайн l10ha

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                                      how do you read my comments? I've been writing why he seems suspicious to me for two days in a row. I advise you to read above.
                                      I ask, on the basis of which you brought Mouse and Julik together with the mafia, given the Mouse's voice against the Julik.
                                      And I really do not like the fact that you chose not to understand this question so as not to answer it.
                                      A new attempt, and my patience is not unlimited.
                                      I think that mouse and julik are on the same team.


                                      What I am observing now is silent horror.
                                      Do you understand such a thing as joint voting?
                                      Campaign do not understand.
                                      Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.
                                      Explain to me why the Sampai lynch is bad, that you refuse to support him?
                                      Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here  what the point?


                                        Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                        , I have to remind you that my voice on Julik sagged for a day and another 5 hours. This interested absolutely no one. Although the players, it would seem, should have thought that if, after yesterday's massive support for Julik, I suddenly vote against him, then I should have a reason for this. But no, I had no support either from the townspeople or from the mafia side.

                                          Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                          so clear?
                                          No, it’s not clear to me how you explain his voice now.
                                          And (on-mode mentor) in this case it is necessary to start with Julik, because there is always the probability of an error in assessing the mafia, and against the Julik there is an additional Mouse voice, that is, the probability of success of this vote becomes higher.
                                          If you think differently (that it is easier to expel the Mouse), then explain why.

                                          Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here  what the point?
                                          Now this is more like an explanation, thanks.
                                          And can you tell who else can be with them two or can not be with them two?
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                                            Оффлайн l10ha

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                                            so clear?
                                            No, it’s not clear to me how you explain his voice now.
                                            And (on-mode mentor) in this case it is necessary to start with Julik, because there is always the probability of an error in assessing the mafia, and against the Julik there is an additional Mouse voice, that is, the probability of success of this vote becomes higher.
                                            If you think differently (that it is easier to expel the Mouse), then explain why.

                                            Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here  what the point?
                                            Now this is more like an explanation, thanks.
                                            And can you tell who else can be with them two or can not be with them two?
                                            I do not understand. I’ve already got everything for you. will you be sure of my wrong choice until i vote for sampai? I don’t like when someone tries to impose someone else’s opinions on me. I specifically do not want to vote for him now. I'm a free bird, you know



                                            so clear?
                                            No, it’s not clear to me how you explain his voice now.
                                            And (on-mode mentor) in this case it is necessary to start with Julik, because there is always the probability of an error in assessing the mafia, and against the Julik there is an additional Mouse voice, that is, the probability of success of this vote becomes higher.
                                            If you think differently (that it is easier to expel the Mouse), then explain why.

                                            Yesterday I would vote for him, but now the need for this has disappeared. I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here  what the point?
                                            Now this is more like an explanation, thanks.
                                            And can you tell who else can be with them two or can not be with them two?
                                            I’m too lazy to explain this all to you. the goose did not sleep for a long time and he needs go to sleep. I will come back to you in a few hours and explain all my theories.

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                                              Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                              I do not understand. I’ve already got everything for you. will you be sure of my wrong choice until i vote for sampai? I don’t like when someone tries to impose someone else’s opinions on me. I specifically do not want to vote for him now. I'm a free bird, you know
                                              No, I don’t like that you’re not trying to convince me that I’m wrong and should vote with you.
                                              And questions remain - who else may or may not be with Mouse and Julik, if any.
                                              I want to look at how you are trying to reflect, formulating a likely Mafia command. After reading these thoughts, you can understand whether they brought them out to be peaceful, just look at the presence of contradictions and their explanations.
                                              Or I can explicitly refuse, because you didn’t do such reasoning and are not going to even at the request, understanding the advantage (peaceful reasoning = peaceful Goose = support for Goose’s voice)

                                              Ofc, Shiori is needed to make a strong point.
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                                                I am sure that GM will do something with him. but if you want so, then I can vote for him. only here  what the point?
                                                I'm going to modkill one offliner each day and one offliner each night until we're out of offliners to modkill. Now I have 5 candidates to choose from, more or less randomly each time (the stage of lethargy counts). You still are able to accelerate this process if you want, but it's not necessary.

                                                  Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                                                  Caramel, concerns you too. Not much time is left, but let us spray our voices.

                                                  As I told, there is a double edge problem here - I distrust both of Goose and Mouse. Yet looking at the voting I can say, that they are in different teams.

                                                  Your vote in SamPie, who never ever voted is not reasonable. Putin is a more highly-likely mafia player, but I cannot say that about SamPie based on the absence of voting.

                                                  So, if not Putin, which is a better choice to fit the role of the mafia, then only was is to support Goose's vote and lynch Mouse. At least it will break up a confrontation and the role of Goose/Putin can be predicted based on Mouse's role. The only problem if both are peaceful, but it seems it's not - at least to me.
                                                  I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                                                  I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                                                    Оффлайн pastor chivay

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                                                    Pastor, can you explain to me what is happening.
                                                    Of course, my son, you can always ask me to help!  :sobeauty:

                                                    I see all four of those who voted after me as those still leaders, because each of them leads his own line, without regard to the rest.
                                                    I don't remember that someone voted for you as leader and in fact we must not to have leader, but we may. Perhaps you considered the support of you at the beginning of game as leadership, but it turned out to be wrong. In fact, it's difficult for me to gather my thoughts in this ocean of other's thoughts and suspects. And as Anony-mouse said, it's hard to lead the discussion while part of sense of the text (especially yours) is lost due to translator. So yeah, now we can see obscure stream of other player's thoughts. Maybe this meticulousness was the reason of such low activity

                                                    Despite the my statements about Anony-mouse I still think that we need to get rid of ballasts - inactive players. It's hard for me to choose anyone, but immediate candidates to me is Anony-mouse and Putin.mod2. SamPie wrote something unnecessary a few days ago and since then he did not appear. I think he would be the second one who gets a modkill, so yeah. I thought they can change my mind about them till the evening but now I don't think so

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                                                      Well, let's imagine that we have all the offers dropped out (which, as I understand it, is likely to happen over the next 5 periods). During this time, there will be 3 votes and 2 nights - 4 corpses of the mafia + maniac, which is much more than the number of remaining players.
                                                      I can also say that if all the living things were not good at the moment among this five (Dmixn, Putin mod.2, Julik1221, SamPie
                                                      InVictA) then continuing the game further would not make sense at all, as sooner or later they will be eliminated.
                                                      Therefore, it will have to be recognized that a)
                                                      there is at least one, or even more player with higher activity
                                                      b) we do not have time for 5 consecutive modkills, if we calculate this player now.
                                                      Therefore, you need at least one demolition vote in the top five, and then our showdown among those who will remain in the game after night.
                                                      Information about the roles of the offers that comes with death is still necessary, therefore, most likely, starting a showdown is now dangerous. In that regard, just to vote, you can suspect as much as you like.

                                                      So, it remains for us to choose one of these five, I hope you agree with this. Another 1 (I think Dmxin) will leave modkill in the afternoon, someone at night. Thus, only 1 player will remain among the offers. And 3-6 assets roughly, depending on how the keels fall.
                                                      This is the optimal situation in which you can reflect (well, actions must be sent taking into account the fact that it will arise).

                                                        Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                                        Either it was extremely erroneous to consider many active players as citizens, or we have a crisis that manifested itself in the fact that new players are overly optimistic in assessing their experience and skills. What do you think, Uranium?)
                                                        But even in this case, the game will not cease to be educational.

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                                                          Here is such a sentence. We select 1 victim now, we get 2 corpses (day + night extra), and 1 more highly probable tomorrow, after which disassembly will be possible.
                                                          The fact that all five are peaceful I do not accept. Part is possible.
                                                          All I'm waiting for is for Shiori to name the victim for today.
                                                          Without a lynch, we won’t figure it out among them (for example, in the reluctance to vote for SamPay, I see the protection of this player, so in any case I need to estimate who he is in the role that will be when (if) he receives a modkil or writes enough to avoid it.

                                                          And I even admit that it is the mafia, seeing the current conditions of Armageddon, will write something inactive so that the hand of justice does not fall.

                                                          Either it was extremely erroneous to consider many active players as citizens, or we have a crisis that manifested itself in the fact that new players are overly optimistic in assessing their experience and skills. What do you think, Uranium?)
                                                          But even in this case, the game will not cease to be educational.


                                                          Both that and another are true.
                                                          Be all peaceful among the assets, the victory of the city could already be declared.
                                                          But who is superfluous to me in such a situation is not too easy, there are too many unknowns, and we can reduce them as much as 3 values.
                                                          More than two blasphemy among the assets are also unlikely, for exactly the same reason - it would already be possible to declare the victory of the mafia, if the city is not coordinated - perhaps bliss of different teams.

                                                          I think you agree that Shiori nominates the vote, and everyone who positions himself as a city should support it?
                                                          Interview + attempt give him not a lot of blackness in the end, let him choose.
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                                                            Everyone has cons, in fact. Even Shiori acts too little to be exactly peaceful.
                                                            The influence of Caramel has decreased compared to the previous day.
                                                            SamPaya - and I consider him the most likely mafia now, the ignore of yesterday’s vote makes him the most suspicious (dmksin didn’t even appear, he may not know what he’s playing, I won’t be surprised, and the Rogue tried to vote, just without arguments) you defend everything, I still have not seen a voice in my support. The Pastor’s consent is too accurate, and doesn’t particularly oblige him to prove something to someone, he apparently wants to think all the way, while the time for thinking has already passed, and we must act.