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Оффлайн pastor chivay

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I approve the way of getting rid of useless player with no arguments but now it has no sense. GM will kill inactive players anyway and maybe then they'll finally wake up. Someone from inactive would modkilled today and at the night too - two people will die. There is a 50/50 chance that a victim of the mafia/maniac would be another inactive, although an active player may well be killed too. 3-4 corpses follow from there. For now, if we can focus on an active players - we shall do this

Anony-mouse

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    Оффлайн shiori

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    Even Shiori acts too little to be exactly peaceful.
    Sorry, I can not read this volume of english text especially at the working days.

    My short opinion about players. Uran, Cara-chan, Anon & Chivay looks active and reasonable. l10ha is active, but I do not see many useful thoughts from him. Dmixn, Putin, Julik, SamPie, InVictA — all of them looks too passive. It was an interesting theory from Anon that Julik can be bandit but I do not see any agreements with this.

    So. I can support hanging of any passive player.
    ака Куронэк :: [Maschera] :: Los Cafeteros :: My Little Mokocchi :: Я тебя убью. А торт, кстати, уже съели. :: Мэнхэра-тян :: ⛩ / c♯

    Betrayer..2 Last Hero..1 Win..10 Ind Win..3 Kills..31 GM..8 Player..56 Killed..26 Executed..14 Alive..12 Freezed..3 Town..26 Mafia..18 Maniac..3 Cult..5 Neutral..6 Team..4 Include..102

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      There is a 50/50 chance that a victim of the mafia/maniac would be another inactive
      Does not exist. With the same logic as the city, “They'll Die Anyway,” the chance drops to about zero.

      So. I can support hanging of any passive player.
      Choose for sure, there is not enough time left until the end.
      My recommendation is SamPai, he, according to the logic of skipping the vote in peaceful Dryusha, is the most likely mafia.
      Well, you can estimate how many people who wanted to support this vote were found (not at all).
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        Оффлайн l10ha

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        There is a 50/50 chance that a victim of the mafia/maniac would be another inactive
        Does not exist. With the same logic as the city, “They'll Die Anyway,” the chance drops to about zero.

        So. I can support hanging of any passive player.
        Choose for sure, there is not enough time left until the end.
        My recommendation is SamPai, he, according to the logic of skipping the vote in peaceful Dryusha, is the most likely mafia.       
        Well, you can estimate how many people who wanted to support this vote were found (not at all).
        hey how do you like such a theory? mouse and uranium bound


          Оффлайн pastor chivay

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          Does not exist. With the same logic as the city, “They'll Die Anyway,” the chance drops to about zero.
          I don't get anything again. I guess that you just deny the fact that Anony-mouse can be mafia. Why then?

          My recommendation is SamPai, he, according to the logic of skipping the vote in peaceful Dryusha, is the most likely mafia.
          And to me it seems that he is just don't care about game. I'm not even sure that he carefully read what we wrote here. But maybe you're right. Anyway I still sure that he'll be modkilled soon and my opinion has not changed

            Оффлайн Uranium235

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            hey how do you like such a theory? mouse and uranium bound
            It is useless to prove to me that I am connected with someone, this must be done explaining my position to others.

            But you can study how many times I expressed my dissatisfaction with the Mouse, or how many times he supported me at least in something important, if you are interested in how it will be broken.
            For me, the Mouse is still a frequent maniac / Orlando still, that is, it was just peacefulness that I did not see.
            Yes, he is simply suspected by everyone around who has even expressed something, even Invict. That is, the mafia team with him must contain offers, one way or another, which you do not want to tell.

            I don't get anything again. I guess that you just deny the fact that Anony-mouse can be mafia. Why then?
            I do not deny, I see him less likely given the pressure against him. That is, either he has companions who can at least say something, or someone deliberately merges it from their own. In both cases, he will be doomed in any case.
            As for the death of SamPai, I doubt that it will be earlier than Dmksin and Julik, if suddenly one of them does not come to act.
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              Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                I have a strong temptation to support my execution, since the next two days I will very likely be busy more than expected.

               Oh, and yes, I seem to have overdone it a bit with choosing an unpleasant avatar. It is very difficult to trust a person with such an avatar.

                Оффлайн shiori

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                Choose for sure, there is not enough time left until the end.
                I will support, but not choose. By the way, I wrote about Putin's presence in the last voting. You all can discuss this.
                ака Куронэк :: [Maschera] :: Los Cafeteros :: My Little Mokocchi :: Я тебя убью. А торт, кстати, уже съели. :: Мэнхэра-тян :: ⛩ / c♯

                Betrayer..2 Last Hero..1 Win..10 Ind Win..3 Kills..31 GM..8 Player..56 Killed..26 Executed..14 Alive..12 Freezed..3 Town..26 Mafia..18 Maniac..3 Cult..5 Neutral..6 Team..4 Include..102

                  Оффлайн Uranium235

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                    I have a strong temptation to support my execution, since the next two days I will very likely be busy more than expected.

                   Oh, and yes, I seem to have overdone it a bit with choosing an unpleasant avatar. It is very difficult to trust a person with such an avatar.


                  One of the main practical conclusions is that one who wants to be executed must be executed for the very fact of this desire.
                  Are you still confident in your desire? If so, the issue has been resolved for me.


                  I will support, but not choose. By the way, I wrote about Putin's presence in the last voting. You all can discuss this.
                  Hmm, and who do you want to support? I mean, who is that peaceful (s) who will be your support.
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                    Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                    I don't get why SamPie who never voted and one of those who will be modkilled is a target for voting, but not Putin, who gave all 3 votes.


                    We have now:

                    Goose -> Mouse
                    Pastor -> Mouse

                    Putin -> Goose

                    Kara_Mel -> Putin

                    These both votes are strange:

                    Mouse -> Julik
                    Uranium -> SamPie
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                    Looking at the votes, it's possible to assume, that:
                    1. Goose and Mouse do not know each other*;
                    2. Putin and Goose do not know each other*.

                    *at least both are not mafia.

                    Both Mouse and Uranium trying to get out of the game non-actives, who are gonna be killed by GM anyway. Why? It won't give any more info to play with. Putin at least now caught in one voting turmoil.
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                      Оффлайн l10ha

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                      hey how do you like such a theory? mouse and uranium bound
                      It is useless to prove to me that I am connected with someone, this must be done explaining my position to others.

                      But you can study how many times I expressed my dissatisfaction with the Mouse, or how many times he supported me at least in something important, if you are interested in how it will be broken.
                      For me, the Mouse is still a frequent maniac / Orlando still, that is, it was just peacefulness that I did not see.
                      Yes, he is simply suspected by everyone around who has even expressed something, even Invict. That is, the mafia team with him must contain offers, one way or another, which you do not want to tell.

                      I don't get anything again. I guess that you just deny the fact that Anony-mouse can be mafia. Why then?
                      I do not deny, I see him less likely given the pressure against him. That is, either he has companions who can at least say something, or someone deliberately merges it from their own. In both cases, he will be doomed in any case.
                      As for the death of SamPai, I doubt that it will be earlier than Dmksin and Julik, if suddenly one of them does not come to act.
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                      You are actively protecting the mouse. why? because you have to hang inactive? Today we told you about ten times that you dont have to do this. you are trying to justify him, but why? the mouse is really a suspicious player, so why don't you notice it? I renounce your defense and will not support u in your endevaours beeeee

                        Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                        , everything is not so simple. If I were sure that the townspeople hang me - I, as a true citizen, could not help but support them. The problem is that I'm not so sure that those who hang me are the townspeople. From the goose, there was still no benefit to the city, for example. But he already hung one citizen.

                        , It amazes me how you manage to ignore the fact that "sleeping" mafiosi can wake up at the click of a finger. Sleeping mafiosi perform NA, and if I understand correctly, then for this reason they will have a chance to fall under the modkill later than the "sleeping" townspeople, who are inactive day and night.
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                          Оффлайн pastor chivay

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                          , everything is not so simple. If I were sure that the townspeople hang me - I, as a true citizen, could not help but support them. The problem is that I'm not so sure that those who hang me are the townspeople. From the goose, there was still no benefit to the city, for example. But he already hung one citizen.

                          It's stupid to accept your hanging while being a kittyzen, cuz it leads only to city's lose. Looking back on my experience, only those ppl who was mafia did that. They did that in order to show that they have nothing to lose and they're ready to accept their fate, so others may reconsider their opinion about that player

                            Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                            Kara_Mel, It amazes me how you manage to ignore the fact that "sleeping" mafiosi can wake up at the click of a finger. Sleeping mafiosi perform NA, and if I understand correctly, then for this reason they will have a chance to fall under the modkill later than the "sleeping" townspeople, who are inactive day and night.

                            Inactive => player who does not write anything in the topic, so their roles cannot be identified by the town via discussions. It should be no difference between "executing NA" or not.
                            I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
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                              Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                              , this is not stupid in some circumstances. For example, when you simply do not have so much time to pull the city out of the swamp into which it is striving by all means. In fact, I’m not at all sure that I would be able to save the city even if I had time, but at least I would really try to do it.

                                Оффлайн l10ha

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                                , everything is not so simple. If I were sure that the townspeople hang me - I, as a true citizen, could not help but support them. The problem is that I'm not so sure that those who hang me are the townspeople. From the goose, there was still no benefit to the city, for example. But he already hung one citizen.

                                , It amazes me how you manage to ignore the fact that "sleeping" mafiosi can wake up at the click of a finger. Sleeping mafiosi perform NA, and if I understand correctly, then for this reason they will have a chance to fall under the modkill later than the "sleeping" townspeople, who are inactive day and night.
                                I helped to hang a drushu because it was inactive. I was not interested in his role. I want to remind you that from the very beginning of the day I said, "I will hang all the dead indiscriminately," so I did. he paid for his silence.



                                , this is not stupid in some circumstances. For example, when you simply do not have so much time to pull the city out of the swamp into which it is striving by all means. In fact, I’m not at all sure that I would be able to save the city even if I had time, but at least I would really try to do it.
                                come on, convince me that you are not a mafia. we have time before wednesday, right?

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                                  Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                  , As far as I remember, you did not just help to hang Drusha, it was you who started this process.

                                  Further, of the two of us, it was I who tried to hang the “inactive” player — not you. When I voted against Julik1221, he did not have a single post, and Drusha had 13 posts.

                                  I also analyzed both newspapers and Shiori's interviews.

                                  Now prove that YOU are not a mafia. In general, I wonder how you imagine how someone can prove it? At least I do everything that a good citizen should do.

                                    Оффлайн l10ha

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                                    , As far as I remember, you did not just help to hang Drusha, it was you who started this process.

                                    Further, of the two of us, it was I who tried to hang the “inactive” player — not you. When I voted against Julik1221, he did not have a single post, and Drusha had 13 posts.

                                    I also analyzed both newspapers and Shiori's interviews.

                                    Now prove that YOU are not a mafia. In general, I wonder how you imagine how someone can prove it? At least I do everything that a good citizen should do.
                                    Yes, I started this process and do not hide. at that time he confused everything and became a victim of this roulette. am I a mafia? No, not the mafia, and I'm sure of it. why did i vote for you now? because  have to act.



                                    , As far as I remember, you did not just help to hang Drusha, it was you who started this process.

                                    Further, of the two of us, it was I who tried to hang the “inactive” player — not you. When I voted against Julik1221, he did not have a single post, and Drusha had 13 posts.

                                    I also analyzed both newspapers and Shiori's interviews.

                                    Now prove that YOU are not a mafia. In general, I wonder how you imagine how someone can prove it? At least I do everything that a good citizen should do.
                                    Yes, I started this process and do not hide. at that time he confused everything and became a victim of this roulette. am I a mafia? No, not the mafia, and I'm sure of it. why did i vote for you now? because  have to act.


                                    if I were you, I would stop blaming us for the stupidity of our actions :flush:

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                                      Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                      am I a mafia? No, not the mafia, and I'm sure of it.

                                      Brilliant proof. The city will be saved. The galaxy is also safe. The coronavirus dies in horror at your greatness.

                                      Disgraced, I creep out into my hole to ponder whether I am a mafia or a trembling creature.



                                        Оффлайн pastor chivay

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                                        if I were you, I would stop blaming us for the stupidity of our actions
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                                          Оффлайн Game Master

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                                          Day 3 Exit Poll

                                          (1): Uranium235
                                          (1): Anony-mouse
                                          (2): l10ha, pastor chivay
                                          (1): Kara_Mel

                                          No vote (6): , , , , ,


                                          Deadline WED 2 AM. 3.5 hours left.

                                            Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                            Okay I am forced to remove the vote for the second time from Julik1221. After considering the rest of the proposed candidates, I will vote against Putin mod.2
                                            Just for the simple reason that the other options are even worse.


                                              Оффлайн Game Master

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                                              PS: I'll be sleeping at 2 (hopefully), so I'll close the voting in the morning. The night phase will also be countdowned from that moment. But no votes after 2:00 will be accepted.

                                              PPS:
                                              GIMME GOOOOORE
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                                                Оффлайн l10ha

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                                                if I were you, I would stop blaming us for the stupidity of our actions
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                                                ooh yeah


                                                  Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                                  the other options are even worse.
                                                  You are just incredibly stubborn.

                                                  Both Mouse and Uranium trying to get out of the game non-actives, who are gonna be killed by GM anyway. Why? It won't give any more info to play with. Putin at least now caught in one voting turmoil.
                                                  And I told you why. I can repeat it - because there is not enough time for all five.
                                                  And what you see is strange in a voice on suspicions made before this announcement you already need to explain.

                                                  I will support, but not choose.
                                                  Shiori never said how peaceful he prefers to support, if he doesn’t come up with his own candidate.
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                                                    Оффлайн shiori

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                                                    Just because Anon's theory about last hanging. Idk, is this choice good or not.
                                                    ака Куронэк :: [Maschera] :: Los Cafeteros :: My Little Mokocchi :: Я тебя убью. А торт, кстати, уже съели. :: Мэнхэра-тян :: ⛩ / c♯

                                                    Betrayer..2 Last Hero..1 Win..10 Ind Win..3 Kills..31 GM..8 Player..56 Killed..26 Executed..14 Alive..12 Freezed..3 Town..26 Mafia..18 Maniac..3 Cult..5 Neutral..6 Team..4 Include..102

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                                                      Now, as I understand it, voting, if the event at which half of the players did not attend, can be called that, will depend on me.
                                                      Kick Putin-mod, kick the mouse or leave it as it is, so that there was a draw or someone (the mafia) changed / produced a voice at the very end.
                                                      And I am for the fourth option - to wait, who else is ready to consider other voting options and why.

                                                      Just because Anon's theory about last hanging. Idk, is this choice good or not.
                                                      Was waiting for me?
                                                      Thanks

                                                      Well, it remains to find out if Caramel wants to say something about the one who is blacker than the Mouse or the Putin mod, and apparently nothing more will be possible to find out (except for sudden bursts at night, of course).
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                                                        For now, I would generally kick the Julik out.
                                                        The mouse hurried to remove his voice.
                                                        Goose's opinion Julik is also a mafia, he can be made to vote on him. In the end, if the Mouse turns off this suspect when there are people willing to, it will prove the mafia is too clear for him to risk taking it.
                                                        Shiori likes Mouse theories; he can also be made to vote on him.

                                                        , Well, Gus, will we turn into a Julik?
                                                        He’s the Mafia, I remind you. And the chances of chasing out the Mouse after Shiori's voice are definitely not very good. It’s trite to require at least a re-voice of Caramel, or 2 voices (mine and someone else, just tell me first this someone). What I will not do is a draw, it’s pretty obvious.
                                                        Mouse will not have a chance to change his voice with his rhetoric, since he considers Rogue to be a mafia, and Putin-mod is the best substitute, no more.

                                                        I don’t want to support Shiori already, with such passive rhetoric.
                                                        I can support the caramel, but will not talk, it will again become uninteresting.
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                                                          Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                                          An ideal compromise candidate, on the account of which we do not know who he is this bullcrap.
                                                          He does not give information.
                                                          That's how willing Gus and Mouse are to vote their Rogue Mafia - informative in any case.

                                                          In general, I will vote, and in an hour I will read your excuses why you do not want to kick out your mafia.
                                                          And from Shiori and Caramel, too, by the way. From Caramel - its mafia Mouse, from Shiori, on the contrary, why it does not support the Mouse as a peaceful one.

                                                          One offer must be demolished, and this should give information. Putin-mod will not give information. The crook will give, both in the case when he hangs, and in the case when he does not hang.

                                                          Julik1221
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                                                            Оффлайн l10ha

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                                                            For now, I would generally kick the Julik out.
                                                            The mouse hurried to remove his voice.
                                                            Goose's opinion Julik is also a mafia, he can be made to vote on him. In the end, if the Mouse turns off this suspect when there are people willing to, it will prove the mafia is too clear for him to risk taking it.
                                                            Shiori likes Mouse theories; he can also be made to vote on him.

                                                            , Well, Gus, will we turn into a Julik?
                                                            He’s the Mafia, I remind you. And the chances of chasing out the Mouse after Shiori's voice are definitely not very good. It’s trite to require at least a re-voice of Caramel, or 2 voices (mine and someone else, just tell me first this someone). What I will not do is a draw, it’s pretty obvious.
                                                            Mouse will not have a chance to change his voice with his rhetoric, since he considers Rogue to be a mafia, and Putin-mod is the best substitute, no more.

                                                            I don’t want to support Shiori already, with such passive rhetoric.
                                                            I can support the caramel, but will not talk, it will again become uninteresting.
                                                            why julik  mafia? ... you know, I don’t want to change my decision



                                                            An ideal compromise candidate, on the account of which we do not know who he is this bullshit.
                                                            He does not give information.
                                                            That's how willing Gus and Mouse are to vote their Rogue Mafia - informative in any case.

                                                            In general, I will vote, and in an hour I will read your excuses why you do not want to kick out your mafia.
                                                            And from Shiori and Caramel, too, by the way. From Caramel - its mafia Mouse, from Shiori, on the contrary, why it does not support the Mouse as a peaceful one.

                                                            One offer must be demolished, and this should give information. Putin-mod will not give information. The crook will give, both in the case when he hangs, and in the case when he does not hang.

                                                            Julik1221

                                                            I will ask again. why we must vote now for a dead player if he dies anyway?

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