London, 2077

[pastor chivay]

Because you will certainly support Goose against Mouse' so killing you is more logical. I myself can play against either of them, but as I wrote - more likely against Goose as he had a lack of reasoning throughout the game.

Actually, I don't get to whom I should be dangerous. Anyway, I considered this as if I was dangerous for you. If it means the danger to Mouse, well, then I already said that my death will intimidate the Goose.

Also - killing inactive Putin who was a mafia to me or active Mouse, who can also be mafia? Of course Putin.

So it means you ignored the fact that among active players there may be mafia

No, I should not. If Putin wasn't lynched yesterday - probably I would go against him today too.

and you would continue to chase inactive player even the next day, regarding to possible victims?

You said that is easier to identify acitve players. So it's easier to get rid of them, but you suspected Putin.

Let the pastor himself tell why he was not convinced, I also turned to him

Putin's activity was strange, but Kara_Mel did not take it into account. He could vote against the Goose just because he began to blame him. That's all. It was the same situation when Mouse blamed Drusha and then Drusha voted against him. And it seemed to me that vote against him is useless, and as I see now - it was so.

[Uranium235]

Conflicts are the source of info in good games. Someone has to support one, while the other - other side.  It's how I've always played.

And I always believed that the conflict between the nemafia is the basis of the black victory, and such events should be gently cultivated, because they ensure victory. As long as the urban sorted out among themselves - they do not touch you.
The absolute benefit. And even if one of them starts to doubt something, you can always vote against him with the other, who will only be happy.
Extinguishing the conflict between the worlds is the last thing. If you want to be a peacemaker - extinguish a peaceful conflict with your partner, which is much more useful if you succeed.

So I don’t really believe that you don’t know such things.

Putin's activity was strange, but Kara_Mel did not take it into account. He could vote against the Goose just because he began to blame him. That's all. It was the same situation when Mouse blamed Drusha and then Drusha voted against him. And it seemed to me that vote against him is useless, and as I see now - it was so.

What did you not like about Sampai and Julik? I didn’t ask Putin, it’s easy to notice.

Kara_Mel

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I'm going to sleep now. If you have any question to me - please make a list with numbering 1,2,3 etc. and write in bold To KaraMel. I'll reply when I'll wake up and deal with studies.

1. Make your list of everything that everything (after today) has remained questionable in my actions, and this will make sense. Or the phrase - there are no more complaints.
Bold did not stand out, well, ok, give this phrase.

[pastor chivay]

What did you not like about Sampai and Julik? I didn’t ask Putin, it’s easy to notice.

Because their hanging had no sense to me. I already said that is useless to get rid of inactive players, cuz GM would do this anyway without us - at the day an at the night, and I even suggested how it would be, so the get rid of someone active—who can definitely be a mafia despite the such activity—would bring more profit than kick out the inactive and then probably die at the next day by one you suspected

[Anony-mouse]

It’s interesting who you considered him yesterday and the day before, if today Poppins (a possible option, in general, just too optimistic) is not suitable.

Well, I have named so many possible roles for other players that now there are not many options left for my own role.

And I never said that I see Julik as a specific role. I just thought that she was more likely to be among the "bad ones."

[Anony-mouse]

Perhaps that phrase about "not dead, but sleeping" may hint that the Goose is Orlando. Orlando is an Italian version of the name Roland. Roland in legends is the best paladin and nephew of Charlemagne. And about Charlemagne himself, there are just myths that say he didn’t die, but only sleeps somewhere under the mountains with his knights. In general, such an interpretation is possible.

[Uranium235]

Well, I have named so many possible roles for other players that now there are not many options left for my own role.

This is the only thing that keeps me from the belief that you need to be kicked out. Orlando also has some kind of information, after all, and peaceful loners usually rank themselves in the city.
Since the rest are loafers, and among them there is a peaceful one (or two, Invicta is still in the game), you can write a summary for them. I want to look at the objections on the list, if any (should be from the peaceful, I would say).

[Kara_Mel]

Actually, I don't get to whom I should be dangerous. Anyway, I considered this as if I was dangerous for you. If it means the danger to Mouse, well, then I already said that my death will intimidate the Goose.

If Mouse is black - your possible vote in Mouse to support Goose at the next voting. Not mine or even Uranium, as they can be turned against Goose, but yours - not likely.

So it means you ignored the fact that among active players there may be mafia

Player, who does not write anything, but still sends NA is far more dangerous than active mafia player - this is a pure fact.

and you would continue to chase inactive player even the next day, regarding to possible victims?

My suspicions wouldn't fade away in a blink of an eye, you know. And his behaviour was only the catalyst for such thoughts, considering the fact, that he is the last one to be kicked out.

You said that is easier to identify acitve players. So it's easier to get rid of them, but you suspected Putin.

Easier, that's why it's vital to play with actives at the end, not with silent, who cannot be drawn into the discussion.

And I always believed that the conflict between the nemafia is the basis of the black victory, and such events should be gently cultivated, because they ensure victory. As long as the urban sorted out among themselves - they do not touch you.

So are you basically giving a strong hint on your role, huh?

1. Make your list of everything that everything (after today) has remained questionable in my actions, and this will make sense. Or the phrase - there are no more complaints.

Perhaps we just have a different vision on the same problems. Matter of experience.
If your hint is correct - I have no more questions. For now.

[Kara_Mel]

By the way, I should note that your link to a quote with opium casts more suspicion on Julik1221 than on Pastor - "Julie, or the New Heloise" by Jean-Jacques Rousseau and then "Juliette" by Marquis de Sade. The funniest thing is that in my own coordinate system, Julik cannot be Poppins, and it drives me a little crazy. Coincidence, damn coincidence.

It's not impossible, but I like my interpretation better, but maybe because The Twelve Chairs is my favourite book.

[Anony-mouse]

Uranium235

, I'm trying to write a full list of players by roles, as I see them, but it will probably take a lot of time, and I just have to leave for a few hours (I hope we have a full time limit).

By the way, about the posthumous (or not) message from KILLKILLKILL ... Could it be that the whole mafia has dropped out and someone who has dropped out is trying to stir up the water? Is this possible in principle? Or is it, on the contrary, a tricky move and leveling.

[Game Master]

I hope we have a full time limit

You have, yes.

[Anony-mouse]

I decided on almost everyone, but so far I find it difficult to know which of the remaining pair of players to give Griffin to, and to whom - Todd. The problem is that I don’t see the normal binding of evidence pointing to Todd to the profiles of both players. Maybe I was mistaken in something, or maybe this is the problem of the evidence itself.

[Anony-mouse]

Well, I had a thought who Todd was. Not according to evidence, but according to the logic of actions. I will have lunch and translate my thoughts.

[Uranium235]

Or maybe you’ll think about the mafia?
Maniac is such a thing, today can not win. But the mafia may be two (not that the chances are very high, and in this case one of them is often an instinct, but there is one).

[Uranium235]

Now, as I understand it, the most likely mafia to drop out, if their three are Bratuha, Messor and Dmksin.
By vaping roles: Scrooge, Moreau, Hyde, but I may be wrong.
I can be mistaken with any of them, if Mafia 2, Moro is still alive, and someone is deprived of our voice / the Mafia’s voice is doubled, that is, we suffer, and we have no right to expel a maniac, hoping for the Mafia’s offer to vote or a draw.

[Anony-mouse]

First - those who left us.

02. Dmixn ---------------------------------Ebenezer Scrooge. Because both a frock coat and bad manners (or simply hostility towards Biggles).

03. Putin mod.2 ---------------------------Biggles. Because of the cowboy vocabulary.

04. Sue Sharlin ----------------------------LIZ. Due to the description of death and termination of interviews.

05. l10ha ----------------------------------Orlando. Because of the mention of sleeping but alive (Roland and Charlemagne). And also because of the mention of the medical bot after the execution of the alleged Sherlock. For Orlando, a completely possible strategy is to self-medicate, because the main thing for him is to live to the end.

06. Falcon hunting ------------------------ Presumably Jeeves, discarding most roles. Plus an explosion from a lightning strike - Jeeves had cyber implants, maybe they caused the explosion.

08. Drusha ------------------------------ Sherlock. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.

09. Bratuxa777 --------------------------- Jekyll Hyde. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.

10. Julik1221 ----------------------------- Moreau - in the film "Dr. Moreau's Island", there was a scene in which Moreau had a head there was an ice bucket for cooling. And Julik1221 died, dropping on itself a machine for chopping ice.
https://dtf.ru/cinema/63683-ostrov-doktora-moro-slozhnaya-sudba-potencialnogo-shedevra

11. SamPie -------------------------------- Alice (although with the definition of a book of poetry as evidence I am less sure about this but cheap katana with feathers are still extremely close to counterculture)

Still alive.

01. pastor chivay ------------------------ Griffin. Excluding other roles.

07. shiori ------------------------------- Oliver (from the interview, although there are some doubts).

12. InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.

13. Kara_Mel ----------------------------- Robin (according to my assumptions). Robin does not have many sources of information, he can only cut off those who he blocked and those who came to him on even days as killers of the night. Thus, if I did not come to Kara_Mel on even days and was not blocked by her, then her suspicion of me remained.

14. Anony-mouse --------------------------If someone is not a mafia (of which I have already named all the members), then why not a single attack from the mafia was committed against him, despite the fact that this someone was actively called a maniac? But is there such a role (among those remaining) that the mafiosi could consider safe for themselves?

15. Uranium235 ------------------------- Todd. Very unexpected for me. And I couldn’t properly attach the evidence. But remember that Uranium said that he promised GameMaster to play at half strength and be a mentor. Perhaps this explains why the maniac was so kind to the players so far that only inactive players became his victims?


I cannot be completely sure that I was not mistaken in anything. But I think that as an food for thought for the rest of the players, my analysis is quite suitable.

[Uranium235]

With a goose - Orlando I think there is confidence, with Sue-Liz too.
The rest is in a certain fog.
For example, I thought that Roger had a female role in “she,” but it turned out that this applies to the player (I’m insidious in terms of knowledge of gender, so do not use it as an argument).
In the simplest case, the 2 protections shown (1 night and today) may mean Oliver. Todd may still be, but he obviously does not suit the fact that the murder has generally passed.
The remaining cases of obtaining 2 defenses are already more difficult. I do not exclude them completely, but to start considering I want some kind of support argument.
The description of the surprise that Oliver in the performance of duties, and not at a union meeting or something like that, I find it quite appropriate.
Knowing Oliver, you can recognize Jeeves, to a greater or lesser extent. Dryusha definitely doesn’t fit the voice, but Putin-Mod is fine. Most likely, this is someone inactive too, especially no one insisted on peacefulness.

[Uranium235]

01. pastor chivay ------------------------ Griffin. Excluding other roles.

More likely that's reference to Griffin just because of puer. Not sure about Scrooge, cuz I think it was Bratuxa and he is already dead. And Alice sells moonshine, so I guess it was about Griffin

Mouse, share the exclusion method. You have some new, progressive one that allows you to ignore direct rejections for defining the role of the murdered.
I don’t own one like that.

Спойлер

[pastor chivay]

09. Bratuxa777 --------------------------- Jekyll Hyde. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.

When Bratuxa died, at newspaper still mentioned multiply hacks. Today hacks much decreased and it was mentioned too. So don't you think that Jekyll is alive and probably Robin is dead? Explanation with a hint "F" quite fits with Robin's ability. So that means that SamPie was Robin and he is died.

SamPie -------------------------------- Alice (although with the definition of a book of poetry as evidence I am less sure about this but cheap katana with feathers are still extremely close to counterculture)

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even death of a notorious feathery cult leader is not an obstacle for an ever-growing influence of the nightclub

InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.

So you consider inactive player as Mary Poppins who didn't even try to justify himself and appear since 17th april, especially considering the victims, whose number has not changed?

[Uranium235]

12. InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.

10. Julik1221 ----------------------------- Moreau

Another grandmaster conclusion.
Only the mafia boss (Moro or the one who became them after death) sends the killings. 2 silent people could not kill Goose.

Of course, you have reduced the work for me to isolate your quotes by assigning other roles to someone, now the conclusion can be made without my help. The review itself is definitely incorrect (and it’s not even touching the fact that no matter how I want to help the host, I still play my victory, in any case, which means I will kill those whom I need to kill, and not those who die I myself as soon as I find out that such an option appeared).

[Anony-mouse]

My dear ones, would you be so kind as to lay out your complete sheets of player roles. Of course, my thoughts alone are not able to determine the roles of all players for sure. But if other players make efforts to do this, then together we will find the truth. For sure.

[Uranium235]

My dear ones, would you be so kind as to lay out your complete sheets of player roles. Of course, my thoughts alone are not able to determine the roles of all players for sure. But if other players make efforts to do this, then together we will find the truth. For sure.

I said that I thought it was necessary, and maybe at some point I will supplement it. For example, you can criticize the role of Oliver for a player who had 2 assassinations in the game, but killed GM
But I consider it a gross violation of the prohibition of showdowns to paint a detailed sheet indicating the role for everyone (let’s say, if I imagine that I’m the master of the game, and you are an unnamed role in the list, then modkill would be immediate. And if not named, also because a false autopsy is equal to showdown). Of course, we have loyal rules now, but as an example, I will not allow myself to do this.

[Kara_Mel]

You know what I don't like in Mouse's big analysis.

1. He made a huge hint on his role. I'm not fully sure, but it somehow contradicts with rules about "roles info disclosure". And he is still alive and well.
2. The role Mouse pointed on himself - is one of those, which is possible for the mafia to know (with successful block). If it was any of the other roles - it would be risky to do so - doubling could appear, but this role is the safe one if mafia knows that it's been kicked out.

[Anony-mouse]

1. He made a huge hint on his role. I'm not fully sure, but it somehow contradicts with rules about "roles info disclosure". And he is still alive and well.

All my villainous fabrications were previously censored by the GameMaster.

[Uranium235]

You know what I don't like in Mouse's big analysis.

1. He made a huge hint on his role. I'm not fully sure, but it somehow contradicts with rules about "roles info disclosure". And he is still alive and well.
2. The role Mouse pointed on himself - is one of those, which is possible for the mafia to know (with successful block). If it was any of the other roles - it would be risky to do so - doubling could appear, but this role is the safe one if mafia knows that it's been kicked out.

you can find this very ousted role.
In classics, an autopsy is considered true, as long as there is no alternative, I think you know that.
And I highlighted the bold question yesterday. Well, it almost happened.

[Kara_Mel]

In classics, an autopsy is considered true, as long as there is no alternative, I think you know that.

There is an alternative. If Hyde checked Marple - mafia knows player's role. If Marple was kicked out already - it's safe to use this role for the mafia. The very same goes for Sherlock.

[Uranium235]

There is an alternative. If Hyde checked Marple - mafia knows player's role. If Marple was kicked out already - it's safe to use this role for the mafia. The very same goes for Sherlock.

The roles of the dead can be called.
Specify who this player is (nickname).
Without such a definition, an attack is untenable.

[Kara_Mel]

The roles of the dead can be called.
Specify who this player is (nickname).
Without such a definition, an attack is untenable.

Ok, I have a strange idea, that's why I wrote this.

Dmixn shook his body, but suddenly the victim grabbed Dmixn by the lap of his frock coat and in a second both were deleted from history, like, forever.

Marple uses Yahoo!, which is a search engine. For that, she must use a browser. There is a history in the browser, which can be deleted.

Marple->Yahoo->browser->history

[Anony-mouse]

Kara_Mel

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It would be very bold to say that Miss Marple wore a frock coat. Or the fact that the fragile old woman had a very sonorous voice, and the cowboy vocabulary is not in her style either.

[Uranium235]

Not good. frock coat men's clothing. It is impossible to describe Marple in a frock coat for an experienced host.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frock_coat

[Kara_Mel]

There is a frock coat for women too.

https://prnt.sc/s5be16

Kara_Mel

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It would be very bold to say that Miss Marple wore a frock coat. Or the fact that the fragile old woman had a very sonorous voice, and the cowboy vocabulary is not in her style either.

You're mistaken. Cowboy vocabulary is a hint on Putin, but not on Dmixn. For him - there is only green part.

The debate, heated by dozens of cups of the very special Puer-o-Noid, exploded when Putin.mod2 was pushed out by a pair of fellow citizens and brought to the edge of a marmite reservoir. A moment’s silence ensued and then, in a full, sonorous voice, the winner of the elections exclaimed: “See y'all partners!” He had scarcely uttered the last word when a heavy blow from Dmixn shook his body, but suddenly the victim grabbed Dmixn by the lap of his frock coat and in a second both were deleted from history, like, forever.