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Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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If I'm mafia and I'm that BAD why don't you lynched me?!

You are far from bad. In fact, you are a very good mafia. You’re just unaccustomed to this format and you had to drag the whole team on yourself (as I see it). But in general, we should say this after the game)

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    I'm really tired of this quarrel. If I'm mafia and I'm that BAD why don't you lynched me?! If I'm mafia - find a hint on me in the text! Go 'head!

    You to me?
    I do not presume to say that you are a 100% mafia. There is also a Pastor.
    The fact that Shiori is a maniac I calculated with greater accuracy. In theory, today all points should have risen over i, but you both did not analyze the newspaper, and the Pastor has not yet named who is peaceful and who is the mafia (by the way, too, a post that I have to choose from three cannot be considered sufficient evidence that someone has enough peace).
    For example, there are things that blockers and doctors should do - the analyst where the shot went when it was not enough. Because they have information. It is clear that the demand from the 1-post player is small, but from others it is.
    And you sit in silence both. If only the night faster, and talk? Give information or confirm the lack of information, draw conclusions. And then, with the understanding of what happened, it is possible at night.

    If the situation is as you paint, then 3 peaceful roles with power actions with feedback will easily be found among themselves, it is difficult to prove Alice's dead a long time ago, for example, to the one who received the transfer today.
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      But I still expect the Pastor to talk to us.
      Because, according to the formal criterion of the mafia, he is quite stretched on a demoral.
      Yesterday, he could have ruined the day like that, Shiori could have voted by making a draw, and Caramel’s voice was optional. That is, one might think in such a way that the three peaceful voted together, so it didn’t work out so much to come up with negatives.
      Actually, if Pastor and Caramel were two worlds, with a very high probability the mafia would add along with one of them, and Shiori, who was uninteresting to add a third to hang on to.
      Therefore, I don’t trust Mice is quite difficult, because if he is a maf, then missed a good chance yesterday. A similar logic can be applied to vote Caramel in the Mouse - if the Pastor is a mafia, then it would be easiest for him to add a second vote, hoping that Shiori will give a third to someone from (which actually is the difference).
      But Shiori was not very active, and in general, there are not such experts in collecting votes and I understand the situation in order to rely 100% on these factors.
      But they have a place to be, only the Pastor does not want to come and say, "Uranus, you are right, I also think I’ll agree with what you’re saying," or "look, here you have a mistake."

      I have nothing to say until the night results, really. Actually, I kinda agree with all of u with those player/role analysis, but not fully. For example, I still consider Bratuxa as Scrooge, but then idk who is the Hyde then. Untill that night I thought he is alive, but now it doesn't seem like that. And I suspected Mouse because of his strange desire to hang Kara_Mel, based on fact that he considers her as Orlando. I more prefer version with Mary Poppins now, but still not sure

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        I have nothing to say until the night results, really. Actually, I kinda agree with all of u with those player/role analysis, but not fully. For example, I still consider Bratuxa as Scrooge, but then idk who is the Hyde then. Untill that night I thought he is alive, but now it doesn't seem like that. And I suspected Mouse because of his strange desire to hang Kara_Mel, based on fact that he considers her as Orlando. I more prefer version with Mary Poppins now, but still not sure
        I think this true.

        Speak of what is sure, it is more useful.
        For example, you can tell what interesting you see in the newspaper.
        If we assume that you agree with me on the dropped roles in the main version (Hyde - Dmksin, Scrooge killed on the second night).

          Оффлайн pastor chivay

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          There's no bunch of information I can talk about. But, anyway, phrase "...some mysterious stranger's service, or the result of her own efforts?" may clearly leads to Mary's protection. Or at least Oliver, who somehow survived and was curied, but I already said it. Another part of newspaper not such full of information too.
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          except George Watt mental problems. R.I.P. Watt's mind :c
          So yeah, not much useful

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            So yeah, not much useful
            So there is still a lower part from the chief editor, can you really see nothing there?
            And anyway, I'm interested in knowing how much you suspect me? Maybe there are some controversial issues - so let's work them out now.

              Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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              And I suspected Mouse because of his strange desire to hang Kara_Mel, based on fact that he considers her as Orlando.


              I do not see her in the role of Orlando. I just listed the roles that could theoretically survive. Including named the role of Orlando. But if you look at my last analysis, you will see that I excluded all these roles for live players. Only Poppins remained.

              And Kara_Mel wants to show himself in the role of Sherlock. But then it turns out that Drusha was not a robot and at the same time managed to remind about the meme with robots after it was sawn with a chain sword. Dr. Moreau is an ordinary person in physiological terms, he is not capable of this.

              Perseverance Kara_Mel is very commendable, but that's all that remains for her.



                Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                Don't you think if I am you-wrote-who - I am fully sure that you're not Marple!
                I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                  Оффлайн Uranium235

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                  Mouse, I beg you not to name the role alive. At the mafia, playing in the final against such statements can be harder.
                  For the same reason, I do not write an action plan for each role with an indication of the purpose, in order to exclude possible interference from peaceful to each other. In full force, if there was such an opportunity, I would definitely write - well, just so that the master of the game would understand what a strong technique this was and the next time he forbade it.
                  It is not too good not to give negatives a chance. There are very few of them with newspapers, which, with proper analysis, give out indecently a lot of critical information.

                    Оффлайн pastor chivay

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                    So there is still a lower part from the chief editor, can you really see nothing there?
                    And anyway, I'm interested in knowing how much you suspect me? Maybe there are some controversial issues - so let's work them out now.

                    Not really actually. I have some thoughts about your possible role and it's peaceful. For now it seems to me like that. I'm a bit confused now because I don't know what to think about Mouse and Cara

                      Оффлайн Uranium235

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                      Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to remind you that the ability of the old foe blocks not only the possibility of dating, but also the opportunity of another player to get acquainted with someone who has already disabled the old guard.

                      And I want to remind you that offers are not blocked. You can block the effect, but the player will receive the offer itself. Even if Hyde is somehow alive, his ability to interfere is extremely limited.

                      On the first day he could tell all this, but no one asked, uninteresting things, huh?

                      Not really actually. I have some thoughts about your possible role and it's peaceful. For now it seems to me like that. I'm a bit confused now because I don't know what to think about Mouse and Cara
                      And what is there to think about?
                      Read the lists of the dead and everything will become clear.
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                        Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                        , Okay, I’m just a little tired already. I have not played for a long time and did not expect that I would have to play in the finals.

                          Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                          I have said enough. You're smart to have an idea why am I almost certain.

                          My will - Mouse. Lynch him to over this masquerade of lies and deceptions. Hope no one will die at night (judging by me - there no headshots left). Alice, if you're alive - you're the key to it.
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                          I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                          I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                            Оффлайн Uranium235

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                            And the blocker and translator will find out if the target missed the move.
                            This is redundant information, in my opinion, but it is. I can only advise when creating rules and roles, the author decides how best.

                            My will - Mouse. Lynch him to over this masquerade of lies and deceptions. Hope no one will die at night (judging by me - there no headshots left). Alice, if you're alive - you're the key to it.
                            Thank you for the last word (although still too early), I will consider it in case of your death. Will you consider mine?

                            , For a better understanding of newspapers, by the way, I recommend reading what is in the starting post of the presenter under the prologue spoiler.
                            For example, it will become clear that the words "corporation" describes the mafia.
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                              Оффлайн Game Master

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                              The Courier New

                              Day 6



                                          One More Down. Mexican Standoff?


                              Due to high professional standards, we are not going to stop spotlight crime news of our Corporation in the face of any hardships we are to endure, my dear friends. First, the Holy Goose passed away, and now his last herald, pastor chivay, was martyred. He was lying beside the riverbank, near the bench, with some dead leaves that had fluttered down from the trees upon his face, and a nibbled bone of a roasted goose clutched in his right hand. Two shots, heart and forehead, stopped his sometimes questionable, yet still full of bliss and wonder, service. Some residents of the area say that the sound of a motorbike woke them up around 5 in the morning. Whoever did it to you, pastor, remember: our honks and prayers are with you.

                              Another bitter loss struck us personally as no other death before. Our dearest friend, George E. G. Watt, was found dead in her room after the neighbours heard a shot. The gun was found nearby her corpse. No doubt it was a suicide. We all knew that she was struggling lately, and we were trying as hard as we could—but, as we see now, it was not enough. You will be deeply missed, Mimi.

                                          — Fergus Fume



                                          Brothers and sisters,


                              Should I say anything else but how deep our grief is? I'm certain you share our sorrow, as George's texts were something that made our humble newspaper so special. Her wit, passion, and distinctive insights remain nonpareil.

                              With the discordant religious movement being eliminated and some gains that Corporation made in their desperate attempt to bring the economy back under their control, the tide of history once again makes its future unclear. Still, with all the turmoil we are bound to go through, I believe that better days are getting closer. One more step, and we will finally reach some stability, certainty in the future, and peace. We know, every one of us, that in the end all will be well. Stay strong!

                                          — May God keep you in his warm and comforting embrace,
                                            Chief Editor


                              PS: We still have some correspondence these days. The last message we received didn't make it on time to be printed in this issue, unfortunately, but we'll publish it next time, we promise!




                              Day 6 has started. Deadline TUE, 2 PM. 24 hours left.


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                              Chillin' (13):

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                                Оффлайн pastor chivay

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                                Oh. To the Goose then, right?.. Huh. I expected this anyway. Well, Lord, I hope that you'll win and take revenge for our death. Don't trust anyone, like we did. I guess that "roasted goose" will make you think. Uh... Eh... Huh... :crying:

                                Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                                Two shots, heart and forehead,

                                So, there was a headshot left after all. There was no chance for no killed, pity.

                                sound of a motorbike woke

                                From Wiki about Mouse:
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse

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                                The combined road course at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway used for the F1 U.S. Grand Prix has been described by Jacques Villeneuve and other competitors as "Mickey Mouse"[83] due to its slow uninteresting corners, and lack of challenging corners

                                => Motoracing

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapolis_Motor_Speedway


                                All other things remained the same. Fake Miss Marple, you've lived long enough. Farewell. Uranium, I don't know why and how you see me as a mafia, but if you read me carefully - all will be understandable.

                                Anony-mouse


                                My choice is solid and I see no reason to hold the drama even more. Mouse will vote against me. Uranium's vote is decisive, the fate of the game in his hands.
                                I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                                I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                                  Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                  , do we need to solve the hint?

                                  , I just would like to tell you that very rarely hints are made through such popular brands as Mickey Mouse. Just because humongous Wikipedia articles provide tremendous scope for any version.
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                                    Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                    Congratulate me, for the first time in all my years I was on the last three players.
                                    speakeasy - sometimes questionable
                                    wonder, service - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

                                    Alice retires, it is extremely difficult to see a failure in two shots due to headshots.

                                    With the discordant religious movement being eliminated and some gains that Corporation made in their desperate attempt to bring the economy back under their control

                                    movement - London’s counterculture movement
                                    Another allusion to Alice.
                                    In the last newspaper, some illegal activity was just some success (= Alice), but alas, the Pastor did not want to write about it explicitly. Now Corporation.

                                    Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark; this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularity.

                                    And this is the first newspaper, it was far from immediately understood, but the meaning is this: depression - the griffin’s weapon, by the way, was aimed at one of the citizens, and at the same time he got the social flash mob (meme Robin). Because of this block, a shot was not enough.

                                    Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                    do we need to solve the hint?
                                    You can do this if you want.
                                    I actually guess hinting is nothing more than an aid for someone who wants to blame, but does not know why.
                                    The determining factors for me are newspaper interpretations. I am strong in that I well appreciate the logic of actions, that is, I calculate the moves completed by the roles, their goals, and I evaluate the logic of the reasons for choosing such a goal and the possibility of just such a result.
                                    Can you tell me which move you think is logical for Alice today?

                                      Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                                      Can you tell me which move you think is logical for Alice today?

                                      Do you remember what I have written yesterday? Who do you think after killing attempt on me will be a target of assassination? And how it could be prevented with the help of Alice?
                                      I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                                      I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                                        Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                        Do you remember what I have written yesterday? Who do you think after killing attempt on me will be a target of assassination? And how it could be prevented with the help of Alice?
                                        Well, then answer these questions yourself.
                                        Because if you consider you a victim, it’s stupid to translate you, isn’t it?
                                        But Alice doesn’t translate anywhere, but to the one on the list below. I'm alive. Your option

                                          Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                                          Do you remember what I have written yesterday? Who do you think after killing attempt on me will be a target of assassination? And how it could be prevented with the help of Alice?
                                          Well, then answer these questions yourself.
                                          Because if you consider you a victim, it’s stupid to translate you, isn’t it?
                                          But Alice doesn’t translate anywhere, but to the one on the list below. I'm alive. Your option

                                          No, it's not stupid, as there is a rule, that "cannot go to the same target two nights consequently". I was considering, that I'll be killed. Who WAS in the list before me to transfer back to me?
                                          I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                                          I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                                            Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                            14.  Anony-mouse
                                            15.  Uranium235

                                              Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                                              Now you got it! Finally.
                                              I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                                              I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                                                Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                                1. Rabbit Hole: redirects the target’s action to the next living player in the list.
                                                Do you know why action is written here, not actions?
                                                What is the difference?

                                                The rule is this: if the player is sent to where he was yesterday, then this transfer will cause failure of his action (illegal goal). You can’t translate yourself, by the way.
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                                                  Оффлайн Kara_Mel

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                                                  Do you know why action is written here, not actions?
                                                  What is the difference?

                                                  When the decision was made I thought about headshot and "cannot go to the same target two nights consequently" but nothing against n-tuple actions on one night. Now you can do 2+2. Alongside with what Alice did.
                                                  I don't trust nobody and nobody trusts me
                                                  I'll be the actress starring in your bad dreams

                                                    Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                                    And yet I would like to analyze the keels. For every night where there was a shortage of corpses, tell where the murder went.

                                                      Оффлайн Anony-mouse

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                                                      You can do this if you want.

                                                      No I do not want. Rather, I tried, but the results do not satisfy me at all.

                                                      Can you tell me which move you think is logical for Alice today?

                                                      Nope. Because yours, mine and Alice’s views on this can diverge. At least I suspect that my views differ with Alice.

                                                      If I understand correctly, then Alice cannot transfer someone to a specific player, she only shifts his goal to the next one on the list, right? So, not knowing who the player is aiming for, to whom she is going, she does not know where exactly she is redirecting her target. That is, if I understand correctly, then even knowing the killer for sure, she cannot, for example, be sure that she will not redirect him to herself. So I do not see any useful actions for Alice at this stage.

                                                        Оффлайн Uranium235

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                                                        When the decision was made I thought about headshot and "cannot go to the same target two nights consequently" but nothing against n-tuple actions on one night. Now you can do 2+2. Alongside with what Alice did.
                                                        An absurd decision in terms of strategy.
                                                        After all, it is beneficial for the city to switch from state 3-1 to state 2-1, in which there is less chance of a mistake in the vote. To concentrate efforts when you really need to divide the eggs into different baskets is a gross mistake, the defeat for which will be completely fair.
                                                        Especially if you think about what the moves of other players will be before.

                                                        So I do not see any useful actions for Alice at this stage.
                                                        But I see.
                                                        Besides translation, she also has another action, checking the type of action. Who has a different type of action when he is a mafia and when not a mafia?
                                                        In general, you can not answer, it's just to think.
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