London, 2077

[shiori]

If you agree with Dmixn as a Marple, then Mouse is given a false hint to his role as he basically called himself Marple.

Well, and?

[Uranium235]

Anony-mouse

, So really, try to prove Caramel. Break all claims against you, find what you can bring to Shiori or Pastor.
She had any complaints before, until today? Check how many are still among them, explain for each item.
You can also show that a similar claim has not been presented to another, although a fact has occurred. I can’t work for you.

Well, and?

I think this means that you deliberately did not delve into the subject matter.
Please explain how Julik escaped death 2 times (on the 1st night today) if he is not Oliver.

[shiori]

Please explain how Julik escaped death 2 times (on the 1st night today) if he is not Oliver.

Def + block of killer?

[Kara_Mel]

Tell me my chances of being Todd, it's interesting to compare.

30%, not much. You're trying to say, that you're Todd in last posts, including asking chances for you. So, you trying to say to Mouse, that you're the one who needed to be convinced?

If you agree with Dmixn as a Marple, then Mouse is given a false hint to his role as he basically called himself Marple.

Well, and?

First - those who left us.

02. Dmixn ---------------------------------Ebenezer Scrooge. Because both a frock coat and bad manners (or simply hostility towards Biggles).

03. Putin mod.2 ---------------------------Biggles. Because of the cowboy vocabulary.

04. Sue Sharlin ----------------------------LIZ. Due to the description of death and termination of interviews.

05. l10ha ----------------------------------Orlando. Because of the mention of sleeping but alive (Roland and Charlemagne). And also because of the mention of the medical bot after the execution of the alleged Sherlock. For Orlando, a completely possible strategy is to self-medicate, because the main thing for him is to live to the end.

06. Falcon hunting ------------------------ Presumably Jeeves, discarding most roles. Plus an explosion from a lightning strike - Jeeves had cyber implants, maybe they caused the explosion.

08. Drusha ------------------------------ Sherlock. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.

09. Bratuxa777 --------------------------- Jekyll Hyde. For the reasons I mentioned earlier.

10. Julik1221 ----------------------------- Moreau - in the film "Dr. Moreau's Island", there was a scene in which Moreau had a head there was an ice bucket for cooling. And Julik1221 died, dropping on itself a machine for chopping ice.
https://dtf.ru/cinema/63683-ostrov-doktora-moro-slozhnaya-sudba-potencialnogo-shedevra

11. SamPie -------------------------------- Alice (although with the definition of a book of poetry as evidence I am less sure about this but cheap katana with feathers are still extremely close to counterculture)

Still alive.

01. pastor chivay ------------------------ Griffin. Excluding other roles.

07. shiori ------------------------------- Oliver (from the interview, although there are some doubts).

12. InVictA ------------------------------ Mary Poppins. By behavior - since the only activity is a vote against me, which was justified by a careful study of the whole topic, which, however, is refuted by a complete lack of activity, not counting this message.

13. Kara_Mel ----------------------------- Robin (according to my assumptions). Robin does not have many sources of information, he can only cut off those who he blocked and those who came to him on even days as killers of the night. Thus, if I did not come to Kara_Mel on even days and was not blocked by her, then her suspicion of me remained.

14. Anony-mouse --------------------------If someone is not a mafia (of which I have already named all the members), then why not a single attack from the mafia was committed against him, despite the fact that this someone was actively called a maniac? But is there such a role (among those remaining) that the mafiosi could consider safe for themselves?

15. Uranium235 ------------------------- Todd. Very unexpected for me. And I couldn’t properly attach the evidence. But remember that Uranium said that he promised GameMaster to play at half strength and be a mentor. Perhaps this explains why the maniac was so kind to the players so far that only inactive players became his victims?


I cannot be completely sure that I was not mistaken in anything. But I think that as an food for thought for the rest of the players, my analysis is quite suitable.

See this analysis by Mouse. He gave all the roles to other players and only one he didn't mention - Marple to say that he is Marple. But if Marple is dead - this is a false hint by him. No peaceful player will do such a thing.

[Anony-mouse]

Break all claims against you

Her accusations against me are illogical at first. She accused me of making mistakes.

Kara_mel, have you imagined yourself a Lady Perfection?

Further, she accused me of the fact that for the proposed version of the analysis, I would have to be subjected to modkill if I gave a hint of my real role.

Kara_mel, modkil threatens both for the showdown of his role, and for the false showdown.

Before posting my analysis, I presented it to GM. And made some amendments. So everything is legal on this side. At least by the rules of this particular game.

06.  Falcon hunting    -- ? - perhaps Hyde
08.  Drusha               -- Moreau the Artie
09.  Bratuxa777         -- Scrooge

If the three mafiosi dropped out, and Ilf and Petrov point to the pastor, then as whom do you even hang me, dear? Why don’t you hang the pastor, whom your decision accuses of mafia?

[Kara_Mel]

Break all claims against you

Her accusations against me are illogical at first. She accused me of making mistakes.

Kara_mel, have you imagined yourself a Lady Perfection?

Further, she accused me of the fact that for the proposed version of the analysis, I would have to be subjected to modkill if I gave a hint of my real role.

Kara_mel, modkil threatens both for the showdown of his role, and for the false showdown.

Before posting my analysis, I presented it to GM. And made some amendments. So everything is legal on this side. At least by the rules of this particular game.

06.  Falcon hunting    -- ? - perhaps Hyde
08.  Drusha               -- Moreau the Artie
09.  Bratuxa777         -- Scrooge

If the three mafiosi dropped out, and Ilf and Petrov point to the pastor, then as whom do you even hang me, dear? Why don’t you hang the pastor, whom your decision accuses of mafia?

Nope, modkill based on analysis is a secondary fact. The main one is the facts I showed, that Marple is dead, while you're saying to be Marple.

Because I can see clear differences it both hints. Hint to Marple is much nicer in terms of solving, rather than The Twelve Chairs. If you would have come out as not Marple, I would have voted for Pastor, but contradiction you have is too big to ignore.

[Anony-mouse]

The main one is the facts I showed, that Marple is dead, while you're saying to be Marple.

Do you keep saying that Marple, during the execution of her potential close ally, Biggles, attacked him and started beating him? Oh, yes, I did not hope to meet such a revelation.

Obviously, Dmixn and Putin mod.2 belong to different factions.
Try to find a more logical explanation.

[Kara_Mel]

Do you keep saying that Marple, during the execution of her potential close ally, Biggles, attacked him and started beating him? Oh, yes, I did not hope to meet such a revelation.

I'm not a fan of fiction literature, so I have little idea, but I assume, that out of large bibliography and movies of all kinds she could have punched someone.

Also, the fact that Putin just grabbed in response could mean, that the same fraction, but never found each other - just a literature part.

[Anony-mouse]

I'm not a fan of fiction literature, so I have little idea, but I assume, that out of large bibliography and movies of all kinds she could have punched someone.

It is not even a matter of discrepancy with the literary image. Your version is illogical initially. If GM wanted to execute two allies, Dmixn would die trying to save Putin-2. But we see what we see. This is the death of two opponents, not allies.

[Uranium235]

30%, not much. You're trying to say, that you're Todd in last posts, including asking chances for you. So, you trying to say to Mouse, that you're the one who needed to be convinced?

It's too much.
Shiori has 65, I have 30. But the standard error, as you said, is 5%. It turns out that 5% is the Pastor and the Mouse together. The mess.
At the moment, I have come to the conclusion that you will not be able to turn around with the Mouse, in principle, regardless of what is happening (if I'm wrong, say it now).

Thus, I want to listen to real claims to myself, for these very 30% maniac. What has been done wrong?
The mouse said so that he did not vote against me, why would I give him anything else to hint?
You should not have left so many percent, if you consider it as a peaceful player.
There is simply nowhere for them to come from.

[Kara_Mel]

Try to find a more logical explanation.

I put my explanation fair and square. It's your turn to find reasoning.

Also, accuse me why I am a Lady Perfection? The reason, that I have voted against you because you're such good and red citizen won't work.

[Uranium235]

Def + block of killer?

What does the block have to do with it, if both examples are described as attempts, just like you on the third night?
No, these are 2 defenses / treatment, no blocks in this case.

[shiori]

No, these are 2 defenses / treatment, no blocks in this case.

I think this is very strict conclusion.

[Uranium235]

I think this is very strict conclusion.

Well, let's say what night the block was, and what protection?
We decompose the descriptions specifically, so to speak.

[Kara_Mel]

It's too much.
Shiori has 65, I have 30. But the standard error, as you said, is 5%. It turns out that 5% is the Pastor and the Mouse together. The mess.
At the moment, I have come to the conclusion that you will not be able to turn around with the Mouse, in principle, regardless of what is happening (if I'm wrong, say it now).

Thus, I want to listen to real claims to myself, for these very 30% maniac. What has been done wrong?
The mouse said so that he did not vote against me, why would I give him anything else to hint?
You should not have left so many percent, if you consider it as a peaceful player.
There is simply nowhere for them to come from.

Unfortunately, this is how I see the situation with 65-30-2.5-2.5 of a maniac.
Silent players killed by Todd and you're words to others of your percentage of being a maniac are just big hints to me.

Mafia is team-based game and I do not intend of ruining the game with principles of any sort. Provide more suitable and reasonable candidate and I will support.

[Anony-mouse]

I put my explanation fair and square. It's your turn to find reasoning.

No dear, you didn’t offer any explanation why you accused GM of confusing the players. Because your claim that the description of the execution and the Dmixn and Putin-2 modkills is the execution of two close allies is nothing more than the accusation of GM that he very badly described the event.

Also, accuse me why I am a Lady Perfection?

Oh, this is just a figurative expression. You accused me of mistakes - do you want to say that your posts do not contain errors?

[Uranium235]

Unfortunately, this is how I see the situation with 65-30-2.5-2.5 of a maniac.
Silent players killed by Todd and you're words to others of your percentage of being a maniac are just big hints to me.

Mafia is team-based game and I do not intend of ruining the game with principles of any sort. Provide more suitable and reasonable candidate and I will support.

With this vision of the situation, you are not very successful in being peaceful in my world.
If the invicta skips the move on the mafia and mana, then skips the move in any case.
You simply could not have such a large percentage, I have no black actions, and I didn’t hide from the mafia’s bullet, but was sent to it.
Another try, remains 30% or not?
Now it’s not so much about me as about you in my eyes. And if you are a city, then I definitely have to go out peaceful. 5% on errors are the maximum that I am ready to see.
I will not shoot an offline maniac after it becomes clear that he is still a corpse. There are living ones, I want to get rid of them more strongly.
These are not the arguments that I am ready to endure in a full role on the fourth day.

[pastor chivay]

Alright, I don't want to wait anymore. That's endless. We have not much time till the end of the vote.

Kara_Mel

I already explained why I think so, Cara's behavior changed my opinion about her.

Mafia is team-based game and I do not intend of ruining the game with principles of any sort. Provide more suitable and reasonable candidate and I will support.

But you said that this changing stuff is not your cup of tea, don't you?

[Kara_Mel]

But you said that this changing stuff is not your cup of tea, don't you?

And I didn't change anything yet. 

[Anony-mouse]

It is a great temptation for me to vote against Kara_mel, this could include the achievement “execute the three who voted against you”, but I will vote in accordance with Uranium, as I said.

[Uranium235]

It is a great temptation for me to vote against Kara_mel, this could include the achievement “execute the three who voted against you”, but I will vote in accordance with Uranium, as I said.

you have the right to change your mind.
But if I still have 30% Todd, then the chances that both conditions are fulfilled are pretty good.

[Kara_Mel]

With this vision of the situation, you are not very successful in being peaceful in my world.
If the invicta skips the move on the mafia and mana, then skips the move in any case.
You simply could not have such a large percentage, I have no black actions, and I didn’t hide from the mafia’s bullet, but was sent to it.
Another try, remains 30% or not?
Now it’s not so much about me as about you in my eyes. And if you are a city, then I definitely have to go out peaceful. 5% on errors are the maximum that I am ready to see.

I'll leave it as it is. You trying me to change what I have already written, but I won't. I see maniac in one of the 2 experienced players and this is my final words. I'm using with my own experience. The results will show who was right.
 
I provided all reasonings I had - I do not have any more to say.

If you're thinking, that I'm not peaceful - go ahead and vote. We just walking in rounds. My words against all of the players - I lost this dialogue battle. I cannot provide anything more, but to repeat the same again.

I don't know what you're hoping for Uranium with trying me to change my percentages, but this will not work. I don't care about who is a maniac with chances today, but who the mafia is.

I made myself clear already yesterday with a vote.

It is a great temptation for me to vote against Kara_mel, this could include the achievement “execute the three who voted against you”, but I will vote in accordance with Uranium, as I said.

you have the right to change your mind.
But if I still have 30% Todd, then the chances that both conditions are fulfilled are pretty good.

Do as you must then. I have left 30% for you.

[Anony-mouse]

you have the right to change your mind.

In fact, I ALREADY admitted my own little defeat. I play for the city, but at the very end of the game I can hardly understand where this city is. The game went too fast, about too many players I can’t say anything at all. Most of my skills are useless in this case. In this case, the only thing that can be done is to try to trust the judgment of the one who seems to be the player closest to the city. If I made a mistake, I made a mistake. OK. Not the first time and not the last.

[Kara_Mel]

The game went too fast, about too many players I can’t say anything at all.

Oh, really? You gave such a comprehensive analysis yesterday and now you're saying that you cannot say anything.

[Uranium235]

I don't know what you're hoping for Uranium with trying me to change my percentages, but this will not work. I don't care about who is a maniac with chances today, but who the mafia is.

Well, why is it not Pastor or Shiori?
For a classic player, it’s not possible to begin to consider that the Pastor Mafia is now of course possible, but in this case the forces should be thrown to convince him.
I don’t care about a maniac. I worry that I’m not exactly peaceful, because I don’t understand how peaceful you can be right now.

[Anony-mouse]

I'll leave it as it is. You trying me to change what I have already written, but I won't. I see maniac in one of the 2 experienced players and this is my final words. I'm using with my own experience. The results will show who was right.

The mafia is a game, the very essence of which is that the townspeople are looking for allies. So pride in relying solely on one's own strength is a false pride. You may be mistaken time after time, but if you are not looking for allies, then you have already made a mistake in choosing a strategy.

Oh, really? You gave such a comprehensive analysis yesterday and now you're saying that you cannot say anything.

I can try to guess the roles, but I have nothing to say about the players. There is nothing to say about who did not play.

[Kara_Mel]

For a classic player, it’s not possible to begin to consider that the Pastor Mafia is now of course possible, but in this case the forces should be thrown to convince him.

So you're telling me to say:

Hey, Pastor! For the whole game, I have played in the front lines, even if the decision was unpopular. I've provided a serious statement against Mouse. I even had guts to gave my vote yesterday! First damn vote!

Mouse all the game was trying to survive, and now when he is hiding behind Uranium's back - you still think that I am (for crying out loud) is the mafia here?! I'm trying to find mafia and I think that for that time I have succeeded. What the hell - a hint on "deleting from history" is saying EVERYTHING. I'm not looking for an ally to protect me - it's mafia trait!
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Well, I have said it, but it has never worked with me before. But let's give it a try.

I can try to guess the roles, but I have nothing to say about the players. There is nothing to say about who did not play.

You're crumbling, but others ignore it. Perhaps I was mistaken. There is not only one mafia in the game, but two.

[Uranium235]

Cyberinsecurity Plagues London

The Old Smoke, our beloved Corporation, has never been particularly renowned for providing top-notch commodities to its employees and citizens. However, the latest events mark brand new, groundbreaking levels of negligence and decay that our cybersecurity is capable to reach. Numerous instances of smart home system hacks have been discovered. Several urbanites' depression levels hit the all-time low mark; this strange new “hip” social-distancing flashmob is gaining popularity. One may ask us who is responsible for this debacle. Alas, we all know the answer, aren't we?

            — George E. G. Watt

Here is the killer block on the first night. Julik comes out with a downed defense, not otherwise.
In the last newspaper it is still more obvious, first poisoning, then modkill.
There is no other way to interpret it.

Shiori, you don’t have much time left to answer the question.

[Anony-mouse]

Well, I have said it, but it has never worked with me before.

Pastor, I have a quote for you! 

Now you come to me and you say 'Don Corleone, give me justice', but you don't even ask with respect. You don't offer friendship. You don't even think to call me Godfather.

Sorry, but this was too funny for me. 

[pastor chivay]

Well, I have said it, but it has never worked with me before. But let's give it a try.

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O~o~ooh! My heart is melting, sweetie! Q____Q
 I am so~o~o~o sorry, really... I... I should not suspect you, you know, I'm just a simple newbie who make some mistakes, that's all! Forgive me, I... ah-h... how dare I... I was not right! Oh, wait, stahp. That's not enough... You know, you would reached much greater effect if you bowed to me ^^"


Ahem.  ^is that what you expected?

I have some reasons to think like that, so actually I wouldn't change my mind, and if you wanna know—Mouse is the second one in my suspicious list