London, 2077

[pastor chivay]

And ... just in case Alice is alive. I would like to give her advice - now it’s much less useful for you to redirect those you suspect. Even if you redirect the killer, you won’t be sure that the murder was committed by the one you transferred. But if you received information about the type of player’s actions, you would be much more confident in who he can be and who he cannot. Of course, if you survive.

Dear, tell me, where you saw the hint then?


 The fact that Kara_Mel was a victim gave me hope, but not really. And yours suspects where Cara is Orlando have no sense, for me that Goose's descritpion seems like literary device. Why shall we hang the one who not a mafia/maniac? Just to check? What if I'll hang you? Just to check, I promise, y'know, you are anon and Orlando is... kind of anon!

Well, Cara may be Oliver, if only it was not Julik. But it still looks a bit surrealistic—this picture where inactive player was curied at the first night. But maybe Sherlock's target was based on random, so I don't know

[Anony-mouse]

Kara_Mel, dear, so which of the three of us wrote the note? I strongly hope that you will not insist on the authorship of Uranus, ha ha! It is not in the style of a pastor too, he has enough posts for comparison. I AM? Knowledge of the language would be enough for me, yes. But here's a funny thing - for the mafia there is no point in writing this note if he is going to kill a townsman. But if he imitates a suicide attempt, then this note is to his advantage.

[Anony-mouse]

pastor chivay

,

 The fact that Kara_Mel was a victim gave me hope, but not really. And yours suspects where Cara is Orlando have no sense, for me that Goose's descritpion seems like literary device. Why shall we hang the one who not a mafia/maniac? Just to check? What if I'll hang you? Just to check, I promise, y'know, you are anon and Orlando is... kind of anon!

I’m just looking through the options, what exactly could help Kara_Mel survive. And then I listed urban roles with defenses / cures. Plus Orlando. Plus the suicidal Poppins. If you have other options, then correct me. List what other urban roles could survive the attempted murder? Kara_Mel herself does not want to do this.

[Uranium235]

Do not kick anyone the right decision now, I think.
Pastor, you won’t argue with me, right?
I admit, the situation is a bit different from the one I was counting on. But that’s not bad either.
Mafia can not be two, they would have won. I think Todd dropped out in the face of Shiori. So there was only Poppins left.
And now I will tell you what the reverse information is, and why it is strong, if you didn’t understand it from the will yesterday.
If a player is transferred by Alice, he receives information about the transfer, you were transferred to a new target.
If, for example, Sherlock or Griffin makes an offer to someone, the player will know that he has received the offer.
Similarly for the blocker (well, for the future).
Now you understand why the situation was not bad yesterday, and since no one was killed, it only got better?

no one

And the night will show everything.
Objections I wait with arguments, urban player 3, object maf, I do not think that it is beneficial to you.
And you are alone, 3 voices in no one can be interrupted by 1 vote in someone.
But I’ll tell you a secret, even if there was no right to vote in nobody, then a draw, subject to 4 players with 4 votes, is also done.

[Kara_Mel]

Kara_Mel, dear, so which of the three of us wrote the note? I strongly hope that you will not insist on the authorship of Uranus, ha ha! It is not in the style of a pastor too, he has enough posts for comparison. I AM? Knowledge of the language would be enough for me, yes. But here's a funny thing - for the mafia there is no point in writing this note if he is going to kill a townsman. But if he imitates a suicide attempt, then this note is to his advantage.

As far as I got - this note can be from someone who has already died. Also (I think so, correct me if I'm wrong) it follows some kind of censorship. Do you really think, that suicidal Poppins would left note with such contents? Seriously?! Plus note is not an official part of the newspaper, so I deliberately didn't read it before you mention it.

It's even funny how aggressively you're coming against me, Miss Marple. I need time to think who of you can get a benefit from killing me. That doesn't mean I forgot all things I have said, no, but it requires time to sort out things. Later.

[Anony-mouse]

no one

I have no objections. The safest move.

[Kara_Mel]

If that's how I can prove everything - alright.

No one

Another small magic trick. Time magic - Summon Clockkeeper! 3 votes are here - maybe the night can be started now?

[Game Master]

Time magic - Summon Clockkeeper

I'll discuss this in PM with everybody and then make a decision. I certainly don't want to prolong the game for another 3-5 days, but I'm not sure how heavily I should reduce the deadline(s).

[Uranium235]

Caramel, take your time.
We have not yet discussed the newspaper, we must give everyone the opportunity to argue with the action plan.
Haste is needed when catching fleas. And the city is profitable to use the time, every hour of discussion worsens the chances of the mafia.
In the end, I look forward to opinions about dropouts from everyone. Full-fledged, which is absolutely legal, to express their version of the description, without question marks or options.
It takes time to write them, and suddenly this data will help someone make a better move.
You can start now if you are in a hurry.

This week does not stop amazing. At this critical moment, we once again have no citizens doomed to end their life tonight. This is a confusingly strange development of events if you contrast it to last voting's fierce invasion of the overseas beasts. It would be too early to call the night completely peaceful, however, as we still had one victim of an assault. It was Kara_Mel who reported about getting shot. Her wound was said to be of grave danger; nevertheless, we can see today that she feels better and is able to continue participating in our struggle. Was it mere luck, some mysterious stranger's service, or the result of her own efforts? We cannot say right now.

I can not and will not throw out the probability of poppins self-shooting. I will not affirm it, but this is not a forbidden move. I think she herself will agree with me that it’s easier for the mafia to win when there are four players left than when there are three.
But in any case, a cunning move or just luck that it was there that the switch was sent, we got one more night, and we will use it as useful as possible.

[Uranium235]

We are saddened to admit that with the shrinking audience, we are also about to be left the smaller staff. Our beloved George E. G. Watt is struggling with severe consequences that befell upon him due to the stress of self-isolation and latest news. This tragic fate might reach any of us these days. While illegal business is thriving, the government finds itself on the brink of collapse after fierce internal clashes. Whether it will manage to stand in this decisive struggle with anti-government movement or not, we cannot say. In any case: please be cautious, act wisely, and take care of yourselves. And oh, at least we're still receiving some correspondence, no matter how intimidating its content is!

As you remember, the government is our mafia, and again we are talking about internal clashes. It is so pale that it’s even ridiculous.
And who are the representatives of the illegal business in roles, you can tell yourself, I will abstain for now, perhaps later.

[Uranium235]

So, I imagine how the mafia thinks:
What Uranus is a nasty, stuffy, too neat player. He could win a long time ago, but pulls the rubber and the cat.

I show the correct game of the city (and the mafia by the way, too). Use the resources at your disposal, plan the situation ahead. Create conflicts, because this is information, and extinguish them if you see that players can not do this without your help. Count votes, coordinate efforts (buy hands, that is, players who are ready to vote with you against other peaceful ones, if you are a mafia). Do not let emotions prevail if you know that this is not your strongest part - and use if you are good.

[pastor chivay]

Well, for now I have nothing to say and my voice is unlikely to affect anything, so

Nobody.One

[Uranium235]

Well, for now I have nothing to say and my voice is unlikely to affect anything, so

You can analyze the newspaper and arrange the roles of all those who left, especially the mafia, since most likely we are looking for the latter. Is it bad to study how the connection between the mafia usually looks?
And of course, I, as a mentor, are interested in what you understood about the reverse information - an extremely useful thing, by the way, in full-role games.
The faster everyone speaks out, the faster the day will be shortened.
As soon as it becomes clear that there is nothing more to say, it will be possible to start the night. But it’s stupid to curl up before everyone has talked.
Because you need to force the mafia to speak too. You can’t even imagine how hard it is to play against your words, and how to falsely say nothing when others have thoughts.

[Anony-mouse]

It's even funny how aggressively you're coming against me, Miss Marple.

Sweetheart, the reason was the note. This is your logical mistake.

You should always look for the answer to the question "who benefits from this?"

1) If we do not look in the note for hidden meanings, that is, to consider that its author is a mafioso who expects to commit the murder of this night, then for him it does not give any practical benefit.

2) If we assume that its author is a cunning mafia who imitates suicide, then the benefit is obvious to him. After all, if he was attacked, then the mafioso is definitely not him (if you believe the note).

3) Finally, there is a third option. What if someone, let’s say me, wants to pass off his victim as a suicide Poppins? And for me, such a note would be very, extremely useful. But there is a nuance. I must know in advance that Kara_Mel will not die. And yet, I must be sure that they will not transfer me. And if about the last point, we can say that I considered Alice dead in my analysis. That, how would I know that Kara_Mel will not die?
I do not see such an opportunity.

Thus, the note is practical only for a fake suicide.

I am very calm and even passive when I see many options. But, if I'm sure that I see mafiosi, then I will not delay the attack on him in the topic.

[Uranium235]

Mouse, that's enough to swear with her. We already understood your mutual discontent, but there are chances when you have to act together, right? The peaceful is unlikely to have absolute certainty. You can always play against each other, it will not run away.
Better write again the roles of the corpses (only without the living, please), the most likely scenario for the arrangement in your world.
This will only win you. It does not look better than the one who attacks all the time, but the one who is able to get out of the conflict on his own on a neutral topic. Against such a background, the aggressor looks sad, because his actions do not help him find his mistake or earn the trust of others.

As you know, I rather agree with you about Poppins shooting himself.
But you need to provide opportunities to correct the error. No new information can be found in the mutual accusations. But the refusal to look for them will prove that the player is not looking at all.

[Anony-mouse]

In the end, I look forward to opinions about dropouts from everyone.

02.  CyberKeanu =>  Dmixn - Scrooge(frock coat + manners + hostility to the representative of the urban faction)
03.  Putin mod.2 - Biggles(vocabulary + sonorous voice + нe caused the death of the attacking Dmixn - a reference to the ability of "Veteran". )
04.  Sue Sharlin - LIZ (I don’t think it’s necessary to discuss)
05.  l10ha - probably Orlando(indications of it are unclear (possible self-medication + sleeping Charlemagne with his knights), but we can recall that the Goose was not too bothered in the game. Orlando only needs to survive.)
06.  Falcon hunting - doctor Moreau(confidant of Queen, which was mentioned in the description of his death)
07.  shiori - Sweeney Todd(the presence of protection + dying phrase, characteristic of the crazy and gloomy avenger who lost everything)
08.  Drusha - Sherlock(a description of death + a message about the importance of his role + attempts to give advice for the city at the very end)
09.  Bratuxa777 - Jekill-Hyde(for me nothing changed here)
10.  Julik1221 - Oliver(twice survived)
11.  SamPie - must be Robin(press F to pay respect - meme)
12.  InVictA - Jeeves(bowler hat + "Bertie")

So I'm absolutely sure - Marple, Alice, Griffin and Poppins are in the game.

09.  Bratuxa777 - Jekill-Hyde(for me nothing changed here)

In general, a desktop + a double name in which Mr. Hyde is simply an appeal to a certain person, and Dr. Jekyll is an appeal to a person occupying a certain position and belonging to a certain profession.

[Anony-mouse]

05.  l10ha - probably Orlando(indications of it are unclear (possible self-medication + sleeping Charlemagne with his knights), but we can recall that the Goose was not too bothered in the game. Orlando only needs to survive.)
It was not self-medication. It was ignored protection of Orlando.

[Game Master]

Okay guys, I think we're ready to close the day. If I'll give you a couple more hours to have some talk, declare Night 6 around midnight and give you 12 hours to make your orders—will it be okay with you? I'd really like to start Day 6 no later than tomorrow noon.
(All the answers go to PM as usual!!)

[Uranium235]

02.  CyberKeanu =>  Dmixn - Scrooge(frock coat + manners + hostility to the representative of the urban faction)
03.  Putin mod.2 - Biggles(vocabulary + sonorous voice + нe caused the death of the attacking Dmixn - a reference to the ability of "Veteran". )
04.  Sue Sharlin - LIZ (I don’t think it’s necessary to discuss)
05.  l10ha - probably Orlando(indications of it are unclear (possible self-medication + sleeping Charlemagne with his knights), but we can recall that the Goose was not too bothered in the game. Orlando only needs to survive.)
06.  Falcon hunting - doctor Moreau(confidant of Queen, which was mentioned in the description of his death)
07.  shiori - Sweeney Todd(the presence of protection + dying phrase, characteristic of the crazy and gloomy avenger who lost everything)
08.  Drusha - Sherlock(a description of death + a message about the importance of his role + attempts to give advice for the city at the very end)
09.  Bratuxa777 - Jekill-Hyde(for me nothing changed here)
10.  Julik1221 - Oliver(twice survived)
11.  SamPie - must be Robin(press F to pay respect - meme)
12.  InVictA - Jeeves(bowler hat + "Bertie")

I have almost the same, in fact, with the exception that Bratukha is Scrooge (business), and Dmksin is Hyde (from what he read, he is a lover of dissolving his hands and bumping someone).
However, I will not argue that there are no other interpretations of the list, they simply are not basic. In the end, if Alice and Griffin are alive, they manifest themselves as a translation or sentence, similarly if Sherlock is alive, for example.

[Anony-mouse]

I have almost the same, in fact, with the exception that Bratukha is Scrooge (business), and Dmksin is Hyde (from what he read, he is a lover of dissolving his hands and bumping someone).

In general, if you think about it, then Hyde could be in a frock coat. And he was even rougher than Scrooge. Well, perhaps this is a very possible option. I guess I was just too passionate about my initial idea of ​​the squabbled old moneylender Scrooge.

[Uranium235]

How difficult it is for the last mafa, you just imagine.
The first night the shot did not pass. The next - the maniac killed one. The second is completely silent. The third merged, in fact, asking for a modkill.
Imagine in such a situation, still gather with at least some forces and continue the struggle.
Against a clean showdown
In fact, I had some difficulties in order to restore the picture of the shots.
After all, Shiori could not shoot himself, which means that the mafia shot him.
If Moro Messor, then he was offline, and they generally could not shoot, since only the boss sends the move. Perhaps, in fact, he was not completely disconnected. Well, or there is some possibility of a different interpretation.
In general, on the first night, Oliver took 1 into himself - it is not clear whether he defended someone in himself or successfully, but it does not matter.
Where the second shot - in theory, should be in the block. But if our blocker is Sampai, then it’s impossible to understand from his rhetoric exactly who he blocted, that is, you can’t assume the mafia or maniac in the block.
On the third night, Todd didn’t get a shot (if he is Shiori).
One can only guess where, but there are quite a few options, in fact, including the ability of Orlando to block someone.
And if Goose is really Orlando, then after this murder the mafia’s low morale should have fallen to the bottom, because Orlando is not dangerous to them, and is quite capable of helping the mafia just for the sake of pleasure (and the city can do little about it).

[Anony-mouse]

How difficult it is for the last mafa, you just imagine.
The first night the shot did not pass. The next - the maniac killed one. The second is completely silent. The third merged, in fact, asking for a modkill.
Imagine in such a situation, still gather with at least some forces and continue the struggle.
Against a clean showdown

Very difficult. I always respect the good mafia game. Since they need to do double work - to pretend to be a good city dweller plus do their own work. Therefore, most often mafiosi are disguised as very mediocre citizens. But with all due respect, if I can stop them from winning, I will try to do it)

[Uranium235]

But I still expect the Pastor to talk to us.
Because, according to the formal criterion of the mafia, he is quite stretched on a demoral.
Yesterday, he could have ruined the day like that, Shiori could have voted by making a draw, and Caramel’s voice was optional. That is, one might think in such a way that the three peaceful voted together, so it didn’t work out so much to come up with negatives.
Actually, if Pastor and Caramel were two worlds, with a very high probability the mafia would add along with one of them, and Shiori, who was uninteresting to add a third to hang on to.
Therefore, I don’t trust Mice is quite difficult, because if he is a maf, then missed a good chance yesterday. A similar logic can be applied to vote Caramel in the Mouse - if the Pastor is a mafia, then it would be easiest for him to add a second vote, hoping that Shiori will give a third to someone from (which actually is the difference).
But Shiori was not very active, and in general, there are not such experts in collecting votes and I understand the situation in order to rely 100% on these factors.
But they have a place to be, only the Pastor does not want to come and say, "Uranus, you are right, I also think I’ll agree with what you’re saying," or "look, here you have a mistake."

[Kara_Mel]

This is comply with my previous analysis, if something not clear - I will repeat.

02.  Dmixn - Marple
03.  Putin mod.2 - Biggles
04.  Sue Sharlin - LIZ
05.  l10ha - Orlando
06.  Falcon hunting - Hyde or Poppins
07.  shiori -  Todd
08.  Drusha - Moreau the Artie
09.  Bratuxa777 - Scrooge
10.  Julik1221 - Oliver
11.  SamPie - Robin
12.  InVictA - Jeeves

Roles in the game - Sherlock, Alice, Griffin and Poppins/Hyde.

[Uranium235]

No, Hyde doesn't fit.
The last maf (well, except Poppins) can shoot along with the action. It is unlikely that there is an option so that in such a situation he could not get caught if he was going to kill.

[Kara_Mel]

No, Hyde doesn't fit.
The last maf (well, except Poppins) can shoot along with the action. It is unlikely that there is an option so that in such a situation he could not get caught if he was going to kill.

I just don't see a clue to Falcon role, so it's just a guess.

[Game Master]

Day 5 Vote Results

NOTA (4): Uranium235, Anony-mouse, Kara_Mel, pastor chivay



Night 6 starts. Please, send me your orders. Deadline MON 12 AM. 12 hours left.

Still alive (4):

01.

pastor chivay

13.

Kara_Mel

14.

Anony-mouse

15.

Uranium235

Not-so-much-alive (11):

02.

CyberKeanu

=>

Dmixn

03.

Putin mod.2

04.

Sue Sharlin

05.

l10ha

06.

Falcon hunting

07.

shiori

08.

Drusha

09.

Bratuxa777

10.

Julik1221

11.

SamPie

12.

InVictA

[Uranium235]

I don't like live Hyde.
Goose killed Poppins with ignore protection / treatment, this is in the newspaper.
Also, the number of hacks was significantly reduced, which indicates that the blockers are dead.
I’m not ready to play against such evidence from this; alternative explanations are needed in this case.

[Anony-mouse]

This is comply with my previous analysis, if something not clear - I will repeat.

02.  Dmixn - Marple
03.  Putin mod.2 - Biggles
04.  Sue Sharlin - LIZ
05.  l10ha - Orlando
06.  Falcon hunting - Hyde or Poppins
07.  shiori -  Todd
08.  Drusha - Moreau the Artie
09.  Bratuxa777 - Scrooge
10.  Julik1221 - Oliver
11.  SamPie - Robin
12.  InVictA - Jeeves

Roles in the game - Sherlock, Alice, Griffin and Poppins/Hyde.

Goose was killed by Mary Poppins on the 4th night. Bratuxa was killed on the 2nd night. If Drusha is your doctor Moro, then he was executed on the 2nd day, Falcon - your third maf came under modkill on the 3rd night.

That is, before Mary Poppins killed Goose, three mafiosi have already dropped out of you. Mary Poppins should have been left alone. But from somewhere you have a possible Hyde.

It’s very useful for the mafia to try to use as vague interpretations of roles as possible, but sometime you still need to stop.

[Kara_Mel]

I'm really tired of this quarrel. If I'm mafia and I'm that BAD why don't you lynched me?! If I'm mafia - find a hint on me in the text! Go 'head!