London, 2077

[Kara_Mel]

Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions.  So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...

You're mistaken, pal.
1. It's suspicious to say, that you're peaceful if you're silent.
2. Of "us" is a very big stretch from your side, too suspicious. Your way of writing is quite not peaceful for my taste. You're not saying "There is some evidence", but "we have some". Strongly implication to the town, which is not usually used by the town players, but I saw plenty of newbies mafia who used such a way of writing.
3. What evidence do YOU have against Uranium235  as I do not have any?
4. LIZ interview is not clear, as it's not clear where the lie is said. More interestingly, that Sue did not mention him in her will.
5. You wrote something direct only after accusation but stayed silent before that.

[Drusha]

Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions.  So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...

You're mistaken, pal.
1. It's suspicious to say, that you're peaceful if you're silent.
2. Of "us" is a very big stretch from your side, too suspicious. Your way of writing is quite not peaceful for my taste. You're not saying "There is some evidence", but "we have some". Strongly implication to the town, which is not usually used by the town players, but I saw plenty of newbies mafia who used such a way of writing.
3. What evidence do YOU have against Uranium235  as I do not have any?
4. LIZ interview is not clear, as it's not clear where the lie is said. More interestingly, that Sue did not mention him in her will.
5. You wrote something direct only after accusation but stayed silent before that.

So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.

[Drusha]

Hello! Kara Mel i do not understand how my messages give you an opinion that i have a bad role? To my mind this is very suspiciously to say that somebody is bad person only because he or she didnt spam in chat. It is my first note. Secondly, How i had said Shiori to my mind is innocent because we have not logical way to make him a murderer with LIZ questions.  So to my mind one or two murderers are in the active writers and 1 or 2 murderers are silent. Thirdly, we have a prodlems - two of us have been dead. It is really very risky - hang up somebody in whome we have not any sureness. To my mind we should ask Uranium more and more questions. Because only for him we have some evidences...

You're mistaken, pal.
1. It's suspicious to say, that you're peaceful if you're silent.
2. Of "us" is a very big stretch from your side, too suspicious. Your way of writing is quite not peaceful for my taste. You're not saying "There is some evidence", but "we have some". Strongly implication to the town, which is not usually used by the town players, but I saw plenty of newbies mafia who used such a way of writing.
3. What evidence do YOU have against Uranium235  as I do not have any?
4. LIZ interview is not clear, as it's not clear where the lie is said. More interestingly, that Sue did not mention him in her will.
5. You wrote something direct only after accusation but stayed silent before that.

So about my suggestion - not to hang up. At first day hints were too difficult and nobody has a thinks about that they about. So i am not keen on method of vanga because of it was my decision not to vote. And about my english writing - this argument is really very strange because everuone has his own style of writing - this called as psyho track. I am not the best in English because of it I use words and constructions that i knew and i absoulutely sure in their meanings.

[Kara_Mel]

So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.

You're reading between the lines, aren't you? If you would spend a couple more minutes, you would have noticed, that I've outlined both active and inactive players and stated those, who are more suspicious to me. There is no decision of who should go down, and you're implying, that I'm trying to hang inactive players, which is not correct.

You have dodged the question once again - why Uranium? "About uranium everyone know" is not a trustworthy opinion. You should say why do you think so, maybe quote something.

Also, Uranium once said - if you gonna be silent - how do you planning to win if you're playing for the town? The silence tactic does not work, so your suggestion about the silence of peaceful players is not true.

[Drusha]

So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.

You're reading between the lines, aren't you? If you would spend a couple more minutes, you would have noticed, that I've outlined both active and inactive players and stated those, who are more suspicious to me. There is no decision of who should go down, and you're implying, that I'm trying to hang inactive players, which is not correct.

You have dodged the question once again - why Uranium? "About uranium everyone know" is not a trustworthy opinion. You should say why do you think so, maybe quote something.

Also, Uranium once said - if you gonna be silent - how do you planning to win if you're playing for the town? The silence tactic does not work, so your suggestion about the silence of peaceful players is not true.

Voted:
03.  Putin mod.2 - voted for No one, so he has some interest and doesn't want to be thought about him as inactive.
08.  Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.
You are not trying to hang up silent players? You said in your answer that you think that I and Putin mod are not innocent. Your conclusion are not true because of statistic - we have 6 uninnocent roles. But at this game are 13 players. Active are only 4 players. One of them is mafia to my mind. So we have a lottery 50/50 we could kill mafia player but we could kill innocent too. The risks are too high. We should analise every facts from newspaper and because of it make a desicion without vanga cosplay.

So... Perhaps your thinks are logical in your opinion, but no. I always so inactive how lha said. Because i didnt like to say so much. I said only if i absolutely sure. The way of writing is not an argument because I thought that I am the part of the town. The most of players are inactive. Only 6 players in the city are not innocent. Usually the sitation is that mafia players are the most active during the day because it is in need for them make an illusion in minds of innocents that they are good guys. In conclusion, I think that Kara mel or Uranium have bad roles because of: About uranium everyone know. About Kara mel - she tries to hang inactive players. For mafia it is profitable because they will win. About another players i have not my own opinion.

You're reading between the lines, aren't you? If you would spend a couple more minutes, you would have noticed, that I've outlined both active and inactive players and stated those, who are more suspicious to me. There is no decision of who should go down, and you're implying, that I'm trying to hang inactive players, which is not correct.

You have dodged the question once again - why Uranium? "About uranium everyone know" is not a trustworthy opinion. You should say why do you think so, maybe quote something.

Also, Uranium once said - if you gonna be silent - how do you planning to win if you're playing for the town? The silence tactic does not work, so your suggestion about the silence of peaceful players is not true.

Perhaps in this we could see tipe of writing in that you have blamed me. To my mind in this conclusion you said, that you want to hang up silent players... Perhaps you have sometning another in mind but this read to me in this light...

[Kara_Mel]

You are not trying to hang up silent players? You said in your answer that you think that I and Putin mod are not innocent. Your conclusion are not true because of statistic - we have 6 uninnocent roles. But at this game are 13 players. Active are only 4 players. One of them is mafia to my mind. So we have a lottery 50/50 we could kill mafia player but we could kill innocent too. The risks are too high. We should analise every facts from newspaper and because of it make a desicion without vanga cosplay.

There are 4 mafia and 2 maniacs, if to be precisely correct. Risks are too high? You're joking, right? If not hang anyone - eventually all the people will be killed. How do you planning gather facts if voting for "no one"? Playing based on only a newspaper? Pff, go on, impress me with your great analysis of 2 newspapers. What, you cannot? Then there is only one way to play - based on the behavior, mafia IS a phycological game, and even in the forum format, it's remaining the very same.

[Drusha]

You are not trying to hang up silent players? You said in your answer that you think that I and Putin mod are not innocent. Your conclusion are not true because of statistic - we have 6 uninnocent roles. But at this game are 13 players. Active are only 4 players. One of them is mafia to my mind. So we have a lottery 50/50 we could kill mafia player but we could kill innocent too. The risks are too high. We should analise every facts from newspaper and because of it make a desicion without vanga cosplay.

There are 4 mafia and 2 maniacs, if to be precisely correct. Risks are too high? You're joking, right? If not hang anyone - eventually all the people will be killed. How do you planning gather facts if voting for "no one"? Playing based on only a newspaper? Pff, go on, impress me with your great analysis of 2 newspapers. What, you cannot? Then there is only one way to play - based on the behavior, mafia IS a phycological game, and even in the forum format, it's remaining the very same.

OK OK OK! Please tell me your prediction for who we should give our votes? Any suggestions?

[Kara_Mel]

OK OK OK! Please tell me your prediction for who we should give our votes? Any suggestions?

If consider Goose untouchable - I showed my opinion clearly, you know. There are both ways reflected - active and non-active. Though now you ARE active, what a nice way of changing! Before I have named you in the list you were silent, but now such a youthful activity.

In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.

But once again you did not answer to me, my heart is almost broken. Maybe if I write in all caps you will notice. Worth try anyway. WHAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE AGAINST URANIUM, THAT YOU MENTIONED AT LEAST TWICE?

[Game Master]

The Priority order was added to the start post:

A. Unblockable
01 Traits (Passive abilities)
02 Mimicry*, Offers (Overhaul, Darjeeling, Assam, Chifir, Turing test) // offers go through & answer needed anyway, but effect can be blocked. If Turing test blocked, Liz gets results without publishing. The action that was mimed has the same priority as the original action and is executed immediately after it.

B. Action manipulations
03 Rabbit Hole // If Alice and Blocker order each other, Alice wins, otherwise she can be blocked
04 Watchdog, Meme, Chifir/block // Any Blocker can be blocked; mutually directed, blocks cancel out each other (fail due to block).
05 Darjeeling, Assam, Bribe // cancel blocks if successful, but can be blocked themselves

C. Data
06 Yahoo!, Arms collector, Old Guard// to get acquaintance before lose ability later same night
07 Big Brother (+Old foe), Intimidation (+Old foe), Authority
08 Turing test (publication)
09 Drink Me

D. Life
10 Presentiment
11 (a) Hard Cash (b) Solidarity (c) Overhaul
12 Passive protections
13 (a) Last goodbye, (b) Mafia kill/Cleanup/Headshot (c) November 5th (d) Haircut (e) Chifir+kill // if kill each other, both die
14 Veteran: simultaneously with the attack

E. End day data
16 Solicitude
17 White hat

[Drusha]

OK OK OK! Please tell me your prediction for who we should give our votes? Any suggestions?

If consider Goose untouchable - I showed my opinion clearly, you know. There are both ways reflected - active and non-active. Though now you ARE active, what a nice way of changing! Before I have named you in the list you were silent, but now such a youthful activity.

In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.

But once again you did not answer to me, my heart is almost broken. Maybe if I write in all caps you will notice. Worth try anyway. WHAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE AGAINST URANIUM, THAT YOU MENTIONED AT LEAST TWICE?

Perhaps i was were unconcentrated but you have said about Uranium 235 at nuclear weapon and that this fact could be evidence... Most of all some people yesterday voted for Uranium.

[Kara_Mel]

Perhaps i was were unconcentrated but you have said about Uranium 235 at nuclear weapon and that this fact could be evidence... Most of all some people yesterday voted for Uranium.

I replied to example by Uranium with such an example as I have never played with super-complex hints. That was just an example, based on real facts, but even I do not think that it's true. I'm just waiting for his reply! I wrote this clearly many times! So, you're telling, that you say only things, that you're sure of, but I suggest you reconsider your point of view, because of your misunderstanding of many things.

By the way, it's such a nice dialog and everyone else is being silent. Don't you have something to tell?

[Game Master]

Day 2 Exit Poll

Julik1221

(1): Anony-mouse

No vote (12):

pastor chivay

,

Dmixn

,

Putin mod.2

,

l10ha

,

Falcon hunting

,

shiori

,

Drusha

,

Julik1221

,

SamPie

,

InVictA

,

Kara_Mel

,

Uranium235

Deadline SAT 1 PM. 16 hours left.

[l10ha]

Drusha

Drusha

Drusha

Drusha

Drusha

Drusha

I do not know how you read. u flip all the facts. Your sudden appearance is alarming. I think there are reasons why you do not want to die. and the reasons why you suspiciously suspect uranium, although he is a holy man! you don’t understand what Kara is asking you. At the beginning of the day, I said that the liability would still hang. You seem to me the most suspicious now. I don’t think I can build a constructive dialogue with you.

[pastor chivay]

One active player was replaced with another one. Messor is gone (It's sad to realize that such active player is lost...) , Drusha is come, nice. But there's no much differents between them. Both of them appeared when someone starts to suspect they. Both of them did not analyze anything (or not much?)

Спойлер

(some of them wants to use you, some of them wants to get used by you, ya know...)

Also it was fun to read that Uranium was under suspect and under noose, do you remember something like that? 

The only thing that makes me happy is appearance of some activity, even after suspect (this has been triggered for the third time!!!) and it was nice to see a lot of text

[Anony-mouse]

Well, it’s very difficult to assume mafiosi in Julik1221, despite the fact that this player just keeps dead silence, which was not broken even when mentioning the attack on him in the newspaper, and when I vote against him. I think it’s worth removing my voice from him now.

Mr. Nobody

This should cancel my previous vote.

I hope that some additional comments from Uranium will follow. Or maybe the Falcon will wake up.

[l10ha]

Well, it’s very difficult to assume mafiosi in Julik1221, despite the fact that this player just keeps dead silence, which was not broken even when mentioning the attack on him in the newspaper, and when I vote against him. I think it’s worth removing my voice from him now.

Mr. Nobody

This should cancel my previous vote.

I hope that some additional comments from Uranium will follow. Or maybe the Falcon will wake up.

Are you serious? Why did you remove your voice? if a person does not want to make excuses, then he does not need it. hang nobody - the worst tactic now

[Anony-mouse]

l10ha

,
I just don’t want to spend my vote on who is likely to get modkill anyway. It's pointless.

But against someone else, I might vote.
I want to remind you that in the mafia, many actions can have more than one goal. One of my goals was an attempt to stir up the player, but that goal was definitely not achieved.

[l10ha]

l10ha

,
I just don’t want to spend my vote on who is likely to get modkill anyway. It's pointless.

But against someone else, I might vote.
I want to remind you that in the mafia, many actions can have more than one goal. One of my goals was an attempt to stir up the player, but that goal was definitely not achieved.

Do you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH

[pastor chivay]

I just don’t want to spend my vote on who is likely to get modkill anyway. It's pointless.

We won't achieve anything if we don't hang anyone, so if you have such opportunity, why don't you use it? also there's no only Julik, also Drusha and maybe Messor. but I hope he'll wake up and say something

[l10ha]

oh my dear pastor ... i miss you so much! we haven’t communicated for so long ... have our paths diverged?

[pastor chivay]

oh my dear pastor ... i miss you so much! we haven’t communicated for so long ... have our paths diverged?

NO WAY! let's visit bar, my dear Goose

[Anony-mouse]

Do you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH

I do not have such an opportunity. And I’m happy about this in general - I really don’t like the role of a maniac. I am far from being selfish enough to be successful in this. 

[l10ha]

OK already running!

Do you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH

I do not have such an opportunity. And I’m happy about this in general - I really don’t like the role of a maniac. I am far from being selfish enough to be successful in this. 

but now you look just like that, ruthless maniac

OK already running!

Do you want to kill them all yourself? AHAHAH

I do not have such an opportunity. And I’m happy about this in general - I really don’t like the role of a maniac. I am far from being selfish enough to be successful in this. 

but now you look just like that, ruthless maniac

who is your goal? yulik? I know you want it, little mouse

[Anony-mouse]

We won't achieve anything if we don't hang anyone, so if you have such opportunity, why don't you use it? also there's no only Julik, also Drusha and maybe Messor. but I hope he'll wake up and say something

We are still far from the deadline, I can well vote against SamPie or Drusha. There may be other options, but I would like to see the opinion of Uranium, and the other players too. Tomorrow I'm not too busy and I can follow the topic.

[Kara_Mel]

I have written everything above, all reasoning is completely understandable from all the conversation.

I see no reason to wait any longer, but tomorrow I can basically oversleep.

Drusha

[InVictA]

This time I'll divide all the player to active and inactive and give my overview as follow:


Active:

01.  pastor chivay - as I told - thought that he is LIZ, but now it's clear, that he is not. But still, he is a way to active for the mafia and mostly logical and consistently sharp-minded. I don't think, that new player will play in such a style for the mafia. Almost red.
05.  l10ha - most of his babbling is useless but tried to proclaim me as a mafia based on the outfit of my avatar and that is really nice move, giving him much more credit. While he's having fun with Pastor - Pastor is still far more trustworthy. Really strange, that Uranium235 said not to argue with the Goose. Ok, this day I will not show any disrespect to his way of playing. Color: under Uranium235 defense.
06.  Falcon hunting - seems, that a midnight wanderer will be right alias to him, as he never wrote anything useful during the day and by that avoided all possible debates. Ash-colored
07.  shiori - one thing I like about him, as he gave his analysis before reading the most popular vision in the topic. If it hasn't been done deliberately - that is the town player trait. I still see him as close to red.
14.  Anony-mouse - changed his playstyle from "let me be a selfish bystander" to "let's make the analysis great again". It's a sudden change, almost as if he wants to take the lead over the Uranium235. With such a sudden change is more black.
15.  Uranium235 - showed a complicated way of hint-solving, so this should be the town player, as from the mafia point of view - there is nothing better for the town to follow the wrong way by themselves. Red.




This section can be called as "fifty shades of gray", and it would be 100% correct. How is it even possible to analyze inactive players? For me, it's much easier to find reasoning against an active player, rather than against inactive, but still, I'll give it a try.

Almost purely inactive:
02.  Dmixn - one hi and nothing more. Inactive today and not interest in a game. I believe, that such players should be kicked out by the host, not by the town.
12.  InVictA - not active since the 15th of April, so he has no interest in his NA.
10.  Julik1221 - never wrote anything, but mentioned in the analysis once. Have no idea what to think about him.
11.  SamPie - one post and it's too much for entry. Tiny darker than gray.

Voted:
03.  Putin mod.2 - voted for No one, so he has some interest and doesn't want to be thought about him as inactive.
08.  Drusha - voted for No one, had one resume message, where I did not like "This situation is bad to my mind. Two of us  have been killed.". Us - meaning the town, but I do not trust such statements at all - mostly they are always fake. Close to black.


In actives, I have two candidates for now - Falcon hunting and Anony-mouse.
In inactive - Drusha is the darkest, but other options are available.
Oh, forgot to say, that  Putin mod.2 is almost the same as Drusha, so if to chose from inactive - one of them looks promising target to me.

Oh, I'm having a hard time here, to be honest. A lot of words and messages, but I gathered my thoughts and read everything.
Most of all, I liked the message from the player

Kara_Mel

. I want to vote for the

Anony-mouse

because he really has changed a lot in his behavior, which is quite strange. I may be led by

Kara_Mel

, but he has a very strong argument. I vote for

Anony-mouse

I apologize that I don't appear here so often, because this game in this format is new to me, and I have never used the forums before.

[Anony-mouse]

who is your goal? yulik? I know you want it, little mouse

I'm afraid there’s no big difference in who will be my target at night. While alive, I will try to benefit in the daytime, as far as I can.

[pastor chivay]

Drusha

mass hanging!

[Kara_Mel]

This should cancel my previous vote.

Oh, I think I should have read the topic before giving the vote. Is it really just a cancellation? I hope, that you will choose a target. For now, youŗe just fluctuating, like a function reaching its extremes.

[l10ha]

who is your goal? yulik? I know you want it, little mouse

I'm afraid there’s no big difference in who will be my target at night. While alive, I will try to benefit in the daytime, as far as I can.

that is, you admit that you are a maniac?

Drusha